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What happens to the soul of a jew upon death
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Posted on 05/16/2010 5:24:35 PM PDT by lovesdogs

My neighbor was buried today. He was a Jewish man of devout faith. Now mind you he was no saint, he had his share of issues just like anyone else. But in his later years, he became much more involved in the temple and study of the Torah. His Rabbi was at his home every other day and sometimes every day for study and company.

I looked all over for an answer to this question and I cannot find it. My friend did not accept Christ as his savior. As a Jew he did not accept Christian belief. Can anyone help me with what will happen to his soul? Will my prayer help? I have no experience with this sort of thing and I am heartbroken with the loss of this good man.


TOPICS: Judaism; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: afterlife; judaism
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To: lovesdogs

God always keeps his promises.


21 posted on 05/16/2010 5:38:01 PM PDT by Tempest (I believe in the sanctity of life... As long as you can afford it.)
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To: lovesdogs

A Catholic priest told me that Jesus Christ was the new covenant with God but that the old covenant was not negated.


22 posted on 05/16/2010 5:39:08 PM PDT by Barb4Bush (God bless Glenn Beck!)
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To: big'ol_freeper

GOD sent His SON as the COVENANT...reject Him at your will.


23 posted on 05/16/2010 5:39:19 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience....)
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To: chicken head

Accept, not except. Sorry, I’m an ahole.
Messianic Judaism is an interesting concept. But I’ve had a Rabbi say that’s the same as Christianity.


24 posted on 05/16/2010 5:39:34 PM PDT by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: lovesdogs

From my studies, it appears that the Jews are still under the Old Covenant.

I have no idea what that means as far as “salvation” goes, but God made the rules and I just don’t find it necessary to argue about it.


25 posted on 05/16/2010 5:39:36 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Is Obama the Manchurian President ..??)
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To: lovesdogs
The God of us all will take him into HIS arms.....

Jews...Muslims..Mormon...Catholic...Lutheran....etc...THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD!

26 posted on 05/16/2010 5:39:45 PM PDT by cherry
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To: lovesdogs

At death, the soul of believers are with God forever. The souls of unbelievers are forever away from God’s presence. If your friend did not know God, he will be apart from God.

This is why Christians should feel urgency to talk about Christ to those who do not know Him. If we believe that Christ is God we want others to know for their eternal good.


27 posted on 05/16/2010 5:39:47 PM PDT by freemama
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To: lovesdogs

My belief is that we never “die” but rather leave this existence for one on a higher plane where we choose a different set of “goals” to achieve toward making us better entities.

I believe that whoever created us and everything we are aware of did not mean for anything to go totally out of existence.

I imagine this will p.o. some of the traditionalists but matter cannot be destroyed and we are matter, are we not?


28 posted on 05/16/2010 5:40:29 PM PDT by JimVT (Oh, the days of the Kerry dancing, Oh, the ring of the piper's tune)
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To: muawiyah

“Christians” were given that title at Antioch right after Jesus’s death....after Peter thay were NOT JEWS....they were Christians.


29 posted on 05/16/2010 5:41:29 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience....)
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To: oldenuff2no

I cannot tell you what will happen, only what I believe, Good people are rewarded with heaven and bad go to hell.

Religion doesn,t really matter.


30 posted on 05/16/2010 5:41:30 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: lovesdogs
And then there is Peter's sermon on the Day of Pentecost ... to his fellow Jews in Jerusalem ...



Act Chapter 2

1 When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one
accord in one place.

2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty
wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting.

3 Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat
upon each of them.

4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with
other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

5 And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every
nation under heaven.

6 And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were
confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own language.

7 Then they were all amazed and marveled, saying to one another, "Look,
are not all these who speak Galileans?

8 And how is it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were
born?

9 Parthians and Medes and Elamites, those dwelling in Mesopotamia,
Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia,

10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya adjoining
Cyrene, visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes,

11 Cretans and Arabs--we hear them speaking in our own tongues the
wonderful works of God."

12 So they were all amazed and perplexed, saying to one another,
"Whatever could this mean?"

13 Others mocking said, "They are full of new wine."

14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, raised his voice and said to
them, "Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known
to you, and heed my words.

15 For these are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third
hour of the day.

16 But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:

17 'And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will
pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall
prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream
dreams.

18 And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My
Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy.

19 I will show wonders in heaven above And signs in the earth beneath:
Blood and fire and vapor of smoke.

20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood,
Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.

21 And it shall come to pass That whoever calls on the name of the Lord
Shall be saved.'

22 "Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested
by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him
in your midst, as you yourselves also know--

23 Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of
God, you have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death;

24 whom God raised up, having loosed the pains of death, because it was
not possible that He should be held by it.

25 For David says concerning Him: 'I foresaw the Lord always before my
face, For He is at my right hand, that I may not be shaken.

26 Therefore my heart rejoiced, and my tongue was glad; Moreover my
flesh also will rest in hope.

27 For You will not leave my soul in Hades, Nor will You allow Your
Holy One to see corruption.

28 You have made known to me the ways of life; You will make me full of
joy in Your presence.'

29 "Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the patriarch
David, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this
day.

30 Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an
oath to him that of the fruit of his body, according to the flesh, He
would raise up the Christ to sit on his throne,

31 he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the
Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see
corruption.

32 This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all witnesses.

33 Therefore being exalted to the right hand of God, and having
received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He poured out
this which you now see and hear.

34 For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he says himself: 'The
Lord said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand,

35 Till I make Your enemies Your footstool." '

36 "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has
made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."

37 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to
Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Men and brethren, what shall we
do?"

38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be
baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you
shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are
afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call."

40 And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying,
"Be saved from this perverse generation."

41 Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day
about three thousand souls were added to them.

31 posted on 05/16/2010 5:41:31 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: lovesdogs

His souls does what every other good persons does, it goes to heaven. It is only the Protestant faith that thinks Christ is the only way to heaven.


32 posted on 05/16/2010 5:41:45 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chicken head

they believe in a redeemer, they just don’t believe he has arrived yet. How is that a damnation to hell. Maybe we are passing judgement on something that we should not be.


33 posted on 05/16/2010 5:43:04 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: muawiyah

im just saying that NOBODY goes to the father unless you go through the SON.. you must accept christ as your savior— he is the only way.. PERIOD.. the jews betrayed jesus (his own people) -the high priest to the roman councel to have him crucified..all these peeps were jews, were do you think they are?


34 posted on 05/16/2010 5:43:27 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: big'ol_freeper
In the 60s Catholic School I attended, I was told all non-Christians would go to Hell. When I asked what would happen to the people of the world that had not been exposed to Christianity, I was told upon death "pagans" would stand before God and be asked "Do you accept Christ?" If yes, they went to Heaven, if not they went straight to Hell."

I told the nun who said this to me "Geez, seems like it would be easier to be a pagan then. Who's gonna say no I don't believe when you are standing face to face with God? Wouldn't have to worry about all this stuff we're studying."

I didn't get good grades in Religion class...magritte
35 posted on 05/16/2010 5:43:51 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: chris_bdba

No it isn’t. Jesus said...JESUS..”I am the Way, the TRUTH and the LIGHT” What is so hard about this?? Reject Him if you will.


36 posted on 05/16/2010 5:43:56 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience....)
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To: exnavy

Agree, we don’t judge the state of anyones soul or spirit when they die. Thats not man’s job...and I don’t want that job either......God has it all to Himself....


37 posted on 05/16/2010 5:45:01 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: lovesdogs

God made a Covenant with the Hebrews. If you believe He keeps His promises then you may rest assured.


38 posted on 05/16/2010 5:45:18 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: television is just wrong

My Jewish in laws think there will be NO Messiah....you jst have to live a good life....whatever that means.


39 posted on 05/16/2010 5:45:26 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience....)
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To: muawiyah
Buddhists and Hindus will tell you his "soul" will simply be manifest in another living being ~ quite possibly a human being, but also possibly a cow, or even an insect.

LOL, uh, no. The idea is that the soul is not the physical body. Reincarnation is not possession. It's the matching of a body with the development of the soul, so as to support the continued approach to God. It is not the takeover of another living being.

Reincarnation also does not avoid Judgement - in fact, the Judgement is what determines the next body/life, up to and including hell, or heaven. Reincarnation also neatly explains why people are born into such tremendously different situations, yet all are subject to the same divine law (meaning obeying that law seems much easier to some than others).

In fact, about the only seriously blocked common Christian theological teaching reincarnation refutes is a permanent hell (since the karma, or balance of good and evil actions, that sends someone to hell will eventually be exhausted). Because to declare hell permanent, means that it is possible for hate to defeat God's love, or for someone to actually experience God and yet not turn away from evil, or for God to give up on someone as hopeless.

Obviously, each of these issues have it's proponants, sceptics, and dismissers.

Well, so much for reincarnation theories.

Actually, reincarnation means we get to discuss theory over and over again until we get it right : )

40 posted on 05/16/2010 5:45:32 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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