Posted on 06/01/2010 9:52:44 AM PDT by NYer
Misperception on your part...This guy spoke nothing of a conversion to Jesus Christ...He spoke of conversion to your religion...
Regardless of what they tell you, that is not at all the same thing...
He tells us he walks beside Jesus as opposed to 'in' Jesus...
From reading the article, appears as tho his highest authority is his ability to reason...
Jesus said, 'come unto me', not a religion...Scripture says, 'call on the name of the Lord', not a religion...Scripture says, 'confess me before men', not, confess a religion...
It's all on a very personal basis...Man/Jesus...NOT Man/Church...
When the fella can say that Jesus is the Lord of his life, and that he accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior, I'll call him a Christian...And if you think that's Satan talking,,,
RE: This guy spoke nothing of a conversion to Jesus Christ
“Get behind me Satan”
RE: When the fella can say that Jesus is the Lord of his life, and that he accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior, I’ll call him a Christian
Puff the magic formula lived in his heresy, hoping that his magic words would save his very soul.
Indeed. Truthful words not spoken.
It’s a good thing he didn’t meet you then. He’d still be a Jew. :)
Some of us know how to welcome a brother into the faith, and offer encouragement to one another.
Dear Brother: Your mistaken. We declare Christ came in the flesh( human) every sunday during mass. If he is Catholic you confess this weekly.1 John 4 requirement. Of course it does not mean anything if you do not have love which is also explained in John’s Letters. A personal allegiance:The Nicene Creed-——— We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
and of all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation,
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered, died, and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in fulfillment of the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge
the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he
is worshipped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic( universal church)
and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism
for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come.
Amen.
You err, not knowing the scriptures...
for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
It's not the magic words...It's the magic heart condition which automatically proceeds through the mouth...
Have you ever confessed publically that Jesus is your Lord and Savior???
Can you say ‘I’ instead of ‘we’???
That's possible...I would have led him to Jesus, not some religion...
Some of us know how to welcome a brother into the faith, and offer encouragement to one another.
But you mean your Catholic faith...
Jesus doesn't want you to lead someone to a religion...Jesus wants you to lead people to Him...Jesus will then put him/her into His church...
**More than a decade ago, Arkes realized that there was something special about the Catholic Church as a “truth-telling institution.” **
This is the one reason that I do not understand why Protestants here on FR don’t believe us when we speak the truth. It truly baffles me.
**When the fella can say that Jesus is the Lord of his life, and that he accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior, I’ll call him a Christian...And if you think that’s Satan talking,,, **
Good grief, what do you think converting to the Catholic Church is.
Converts do just what you said. Listen, accept Christ, act as Christians walking WITH the Lord.
There’s no contradiction. This man is a Christian.
You’re the only one here who questions this man’s faith. You are putting down stumbling blocks.
If the man were to say that he found Christ through other denominations, I would be thrilled, because this man has been saved.
Is it to much for a professed Christian, as you yourself are to be happy that someone who was once lost was found?
Or do you not believe that Catholics are true Christians?
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“Have you ever confessed publically that Jesus is your Lord and Savior???”
Yes, and I’m proud to call myself a Catholic.
Come out from 400 years ago and see the Church as she is, not the distortions and the lies of Luther and Calvin.
This is all I ask. She is the beautiful bride of Christ, unstained and pure.
This is where so many Protestants just don't get it. They begin each and every discussion with the given that all accept the false premise of Sola Scriptura and attempt to build their arguments upon it. The Catholic rejection of Sola Scriptura makes those arguments vacuous at best.
Depends on WHO is quoting sola Scripture and why.
We do...It's when you don't speak the truth that we have trouble believing you...
I think converting to the Catholic Church is, converting to the Catholic Church...
Converts do just what you said. Listen, accept Christ, act as Christians walking WITH the Lord.
I don't believe I ever heard a Catholic mention the name Jesus...I find that odd...
Accept Christ is so generic...Have you ask Jesus to be your Savior and the Lord of your life??? Or is that assumed to be automatic once you join your Church???
Catholics are Catholics and Christians are Christians...They can be one in the same but I don't believe that to be true in most cases...
That just underscores how little you know of the Catholic Church. Unless yo have actually undertaken to study the Catholic Church with and from reputable sources your understanding of the Church will be either conjecture or lies.
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