Posted on 06/09/2010 10:16:39 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
You wrote:
“They may have used contraception at some time or another, but not at the time they got pregnant.”
Again, not true. Even the pill sometimes fails. What leads to abortion is the contraceptive mentality which reduces children to a commodity.
“I hypothesize that the study will show that the stronger someone’s “pro-choice” attitude is, the less likely they are to consistently use contraceptive.”
No, it’s probably the opposite.
Again, not true. Even the pill sometimes fails. What leads to abortion is the contraceptive mentality which reduces children to a commodity.
The rate of contraceptive failure is low. The apparent rate of failure is probably higher than the real rate, since those having abortions are likely to lie and say they were taking precautions when they weren't. In any case, even if every woman who had a bona fide contraceptive failure had an abortion (and most of them don't), their numbers are not great enough to account for all the abortions that occur. Most abortions occur because of failure to use contraceptives, not because of contraceptive failure.
“I hypothesize that the study will show that the stronger someone’s “pro-choice” attitude is, the less likely they are to consistently use contraceptive.”
No, it’s probably the opposite.
That doesn't even make sense. By that reasoning, the highest contraceptive use would be among strongly pro-abortion women, so their abortion numbers would be negligible. And pro-life women wouldn't be having abortions to begin with... so the abortion industry would collapse. The fact (supported by studies) is that the vast majority of abortions take place because of lack of contraceptive use--the assumption is that those having the abortions choose not to use contraceptives because they know abortion is readily available, with the implicit secondary assumption that they are willing to use abortion as their primary means of birth control (not contraception) because of their strong "pro-choice" attitude.
Not in my family. There's quite a number of "pill babies" that the Good Lord wanted on this earth - and we love every one of them, despite their parents' wanting to beat the system God gave us. I can name a number conceived when medical textbooks say they couldn't be, even using perfectly natural means. We won't get into multiples. Only God knows that one for sure.
The whole "planning" thing is just selfish and thwarts God's will. God says "ha" from time to time. Get used to it.
You wrote:
“That doesn’t even make sense. By that reasoning, the highest contraceptive use would be among strongly pro-abortion women, so their abortion numbers would be negligible.”
No. All people who support abortion support contraception. All of them. There may indeed be someone out there who doesn’t want to swallow a pill everyday, but sees nothing inconvenient about having an abortion, but I have never met anyone like that ever. And even that woman will still turn out to be pro-contraception. She is just too lazy to use it herself. Everyone who supports murdering children supports undermining the natural use of sex. You cannot believe in one without believing in the other.
The contraceptive mentality leads to abortion. Every nation that allows artifical contraception allows abortion sooner or later. The former always leads to the latter. Those who support contraception are also supporting abortion even if they don’t know it. They are also supproting the destruction of the family, the end of traditional marriage roles and the general destruction of the moral fiber of society.
Ever read Lionel Tiger’s Decline of Males? You might want to. http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~ltiger/publications/declineofmales.html
The Church saw all of this coming decades ago. Pope Paul VI’s Humani Vitae was prophetic.
Leaving aside the fact that the immorality of contraception does not necessarily result in banning birth control and child subsidies, let us examine the premise itself.
It is true that if the birth rate, say, doubled overnight that would be a stress on the national economy as a lot of babies would be in need of poverty relief, which the taxpayer will have to furnish, -- a "disaster".
The same is true about any sensible economic policy if it is introduced abruptly. For example, being on this forum you are likely to agree with me that it would be a good policy to reduce the taxes by half. But if the taxes are halved overnight, we are going to have starving people on the street -- also a "disaster". Likewise if we drop safety regulations, deport every illegal alien, close all public schools, etc, -- all policies that I would heartily support if introduced gradually.
A policy is good of bad judged by its effect when the new equilibrium is found. So is doubling of the birthrate in America desirable overtime? I think it manifestly is. The real crisis America is facing is the ratio of workers to the retired population. No matter how you organize the social security, -- I would love to see it privatized wholly -- that ratio will remain a problem, unless the birth rate in America goes up substantially. That will not happen so long as America continues to misdirect her sexual energy to what is, essentially, masturbation.
If I were in charge, I would ban the advertizing and sale of contraception in most places, and the little that is prudent to allow, -- for example, sale of condoms in red light districts -- I would tax heavily and use the money to educate people about natural family planning. I would also criminalize adultery and demand fault determination in all divorce cases. With these reforms in place it should not be difficult to subsidize the cases of true poverty in fecund families.
Here is a link, a good place to start, to many papers in this subject. Why continue to filibuster, get the facts.
http://www.hli.org/index.php/hli-research
Besides the moral shipwreck that the contraceptive mentality breeds, there are serious health ramifications due to the adverse affects of the pill on the flora living in the human body, and this spills over into the TH1 and TH2 arms of the immune system. Here is a clip from Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride’s GAPS diet book:
“Contraceptive pills
have a devastating effect on the beneficial (good) bacteria in the gut. One of the
major functions of the good bacteria in the gut flora is controlling about 500
different known to science species of pathogenic (bad) and opportunistic
microbes. When the beneficial bacteria get destroyed the opportunists get a
special opportunity to grow into large colonies and occupy large areas of the
digestive tract. A modern diet of processed and fast foods provides perfect
nourishment for these pathogens and that is a typical diet a modern mum had as
a child and a young adult. As a result of all these factors a modern mum has
seriously compromised gut flora by the time she is ready to have children. And
indeed clinical signs of gut dysbiosis (abnormal gut flora) are present in almost
100% of mothers of children with autism and other neurological and psychiatric
conditions.
But why are we talking about mother’s gut flora? Because her baby is born with a
sterile gut. In the first 20 or so days of life the baby’s virgin gut surface gets
populated by a mixture of microbes. This is the child’s gut flora, which will have a
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tremendous effect on this child’s health for the rest of his/her life. Where does
this gut flora come from? Mainly from the mother.
So, whatever microbial flora the mother has she would pass to her new-born
child.
Gut flora is something we do not think much about. And yet the number of
functions the gut flora fulfils is so vital for us that if some day our digestive tract
got sterilised we probably would not survive.”
Should church attendance or other commemorations of the Sabbath also be compulsory?
Should taking the Lord's name in vain be illegal?
How about having other gods before God? Should that be illegal?
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