Suicide - The Murder of Oneself

By: Dr. Sam Vaknin ^ | 2009 | By: Dr. Sam Vaknin

[TwoLegsGood]

I've never heard of this doctor before but was interested in his rational approach to such a horrible topic. But I was always amazed at the correlation between suicide and murder... how if one is willing to take their own life, then they seem more prone to take someone else's life, too. This man has written other books called "Malignant Self Love" and "Relationships with Abusive Narcissists" and the last person I was involved with was really into that classic book on Narcissism that I can't recall the title of (it could be just Narcissism) without realizing he was an immature baby narcissist himself, so I put no stock in intellectualizing oneself into maturity. In any case, this was provokative.

[Jo Nuvark]

Thou shalt NOT kill... even yourself.

[The Magical Mischief Tour]

The commandment says thou shall not murder.

[goseminoles]

That’s why I need to remain anti-abortion and anti-death penalty. Talking anothers life is wrong except to protect ones own life.
I’ve had 3 good friends commit suicide. Very painful.

[dalereed]

“Those who believe in the finality of death (i.e., that there is no after-life) – they are the ones who advocate suicide and regard it as a matter of personal choice”

Describes me!!

[Dave346]

I heard of this guy - he’s written various article on the timing that Israel might strike Iran. Like a lot of folks, the time periods he expected have long passed but he keeps talking about new ones.

[Jo Nuvark]

King James says, “kill”.

[TwoLegsGood]

Well it’s bound to happen sooner or later, emphasize sooner.

[TwoLegsGood]

Thanks for sharing but don’t ask me to join the Hemlock Society.

[TwoLegsGood]

I do not believe it is an unpardonable sin, and took some small comfort in that myself recently.

[WhatNot]

This implies that suicide affects the eternal, immutable soul. Aquinas refrains from elaborating exactly how a distinctly physical and material act alters the structure and / or the properties of something as ethereal as the soul.

The writer to the Hebrews wraps up the loose ends pretty good, "It is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment" (Hebrews 9:27).

[dalereed]

“don’t ask me to join the Hemlock Society.”

Whatever that is?

[TwoLegsGood]

King James says “kill” but look up the Hebrew word for it in the concordance...

it’s murder.

Meaning you contemplated taking a personal life of an individual, not some random shooting, battlekill, or accident. Murder originates in the heart, and it is the heart that God sees. Killing is not the same as Murder.

[TwoLegsGood]

It’s a suicide club. Had a weird neighbor who was into it. Spooky, like a Dr. Kovorkian club.

[TwoLegsGood]

Can’t argue with that.

[GregoryFul]

To sleep, perchance to dream. Aye, there’s the rub!

[353FMG]

“...if one is willing to take their own life, then they seem more prone to take someone else’s life, too.”

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Think what you just said and you’ll realize that you have described the Muslim philosophy.

[TwoLegsGood]

Yuck you right.

[WhatNot]

I did for years, but God has a way of winning debates :)

[Berlin_Freeper]

And then there are those who support suicide because they smell money.