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The Islamic and Christian views of Jesus... (How Obama Can be Muslim but Claim Christianity)
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Posted on 08/20/2010 10:07:57 AM PDT by xzins

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10 brief points Christians should know about Muslims and Jesus

By Sound Vision Staff Writer

Muslims love Jesus. We also love Abraham, Moses, and Noah, to name just a few other Prophets Muslims revere. May God's peace be upon all of these great messengers of God.

Muslims also love the mother of Jesus, the Virgin Mary. We believe she was a pious and noble woman chosen over all of the women of the world.

Muslims believe that Jesus was born miraculously of a virgin mother and no father. His birth is miraculous like the birth of Adam, the first human being, who was created with neither mother nor father.

Muslims do not believe that Jesus was the son of God. God is so powerful and self-sufficient that He does not need a son or any kind of partner.

In Arabic Bible the name for God is Allah. Therefore all Arab Christian call God Allah as Muslim do as well.

Jesus did not die on the cross. Rather, God saved him as his enemies were confused about him. Jesus was taken up by God to Heaven.

Jesus is called Isa (pronounced Eesa) in Arabic.

Jesus performed miracles by the Will of God, like healing the blind and those with leprosy.

Jesus prayed to the same God as all Prophets and we pray to.

Jesus will return before the end of the world.

1 posted on 08/20/2010 10:07:59 AM PDT by xzins
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To: All; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg

As one who has monitored mainline, liberal Christianity, it seems very likely that a Muslim in Jeremiah Wright’s liberal United Church of Christ church in Chicago could find sufficient reasons to call himself a Christian.

In fact, many of the Muslim beliefs above surpass those of liberal Christianity that rejects our historic doctrine and faith.


2 posted on 08/20/2010 10:10:06 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Obama is neither Muslim nor Christian. He is anti-God.


3 posted on 08/20/2010 10:10:41 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

I wouldn’t argue with you, but this is more about what he claims.


4 posted on 08/20/2010 10:11:18 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Allah was the most powerful of the Sand Djins whose idols were in the B’aal in Mecca. A Djin is a demon. Connect the dots.


5 posted on 08/20/2010 10:13:29 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: xzins

His claims are designed to confuse. And just who is the author of confusion? That’s his master.


6 posted on 08/20/2010 10:13:34 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: xzins

good source of info


7 posted on 08/20/2010 10:14:15 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: anniegetyourgun

He lies because his religion allows and condones lying to the infidels if it advances the cause....red


8 posted on 08/20/2010 10:17:31 AM PDT by rednek ("Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.")
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How Obama Can be Muslim but Claim Christianity?

Simple. He can't. The "Jesus" of Islam is NOT the Lord Jesus Christ of the Universe, the Savior of the world and the Alpha and the Omega. The "Jesus" of Islam was superceded by a blood-thirsty, pedophile savage named Muhammad.

9 posted on 08/20/2010 10:19:43 AM PDT by Sister_T ("Calling ILLEGAL aliens "immigrants" is like calling shoplifters 'customers'!"-UCFRoadWarrior ><>)
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To: rednek

No, he lies because there is not truth in him. Furthermore, his master is the father of lies - he who is a liar from the beginning.


10 posted on 08/20/2010 10:19:51 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: xzins
"Claim" being the operative word. Until he acknowledges Jesus is Christ and the Son of God he just continues to fool those who want to be fooled.

Muhammad (ptewie) knew what he was doing, getting converts was serious business.

11 posted on 08/20/2010 10:20:04 AM PDT by fml
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To: vanilla swirl

Yep, from their own mouths about Jesus.

The UCC is a liberal denomination with a low view of scripture. That is Obama’s denomination....and Jeremiah Wright’s.


12 posted on 08/20/2010 10:21:46 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Sister_T

However, he can “claim” it.


13 posted on 08/20/2010 10:22:43 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
But no one mentions the Old Testament which described and told of Jesus. Throughout the old testament the prophecy of Jesus was foretold. So it is not only Matthew, Mark, Luke and John testimonies but the OT as well.
14 posted on 08/20/2010 10:23:19 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Bitsy

The OT had a detailed view of Jesus revealed through the prophets. However, if Islam decides to accept some scripture and reject others, then they can put together just about any composite they want.


15 posted on 08/20/2010 10:26:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
I am afraid I challenge the statement that Muslims love Jesus!

As for whether or not Obama is a Christian? It is quite easy to see that he is not, the evidence is more than overwhelming.

His position regarding infanticide, pretty much seals the deal that he is not! Add to that his 20 year association with the Rev Wright NON Christian Church. But really there is really no need to look further than his last 2 appointments to the Supreme Court.

However his pro abortion/pro choice position completely disqualifies him from Christianity at this point.

He can repent this afternoon and ask Jesus into his life, that would be wonderful, I would personally welcome him with open arms if he was to decide to ask Jesus into his life and become a Christian.

His repentance would have to be genuine, he would have to reject all his previous positions on abortion, homosexuality and for his wanting to remove the Bible and Christ from the class room/society etc.

He would have to say publicly that he deeply regrets his 2 picks to the Supreme Court for anybody to take him seriously.

True repentance for Obama would certainly mean sharing Jesus with the world, telling the world that they need Jesus, he is our only hope, we must stop aborting God`s children, we must stop teaching them that it`s OK to be homosexual etc.

Yes it would be wonderful, all things are possible with God, I find it hard to believe that this will happen (forgive me Lord)

What a great Christian witness he could be, if he was only a Christian.

At this point in time sadly he is a NON Christian and in fact an enemy of Christ.

God Bless President Obama, reveal your Son Jesus to him Dear Lord, have mercy on all us sinners.

16 posted on 08/20/2010 10:27:03 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge ( PALIN / HOLTZ 2012 If you vote Democrat you support infanticide)
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To: xzins
In fact, many of the Muslim beliefs above surpass those of liberal Christianity that rejects our historic doctrine and faith.

Outstanding point. Exceedingly sad, but quite true.


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Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

17 posted on 08/20/2010 10:27:04 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: The Comedian

I just saw on another thread a comment that claimed that Obama’s grandmother was Unitarian. If so, he discovered that he could call himself Christian and reject the Trinity.

That would not contradict cultural Islamism at all, and even a believing Islamic could hide in such a church.


18 posted on 08/20/2010 10:33:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: The Comedian
“Liberal Christianity” is not Christian, the term is a oxy moron, much in the same way that the term “pro choice/pro abortion Christian” is a oxymoron
19 posted on 08/20/2010 10:34:29 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge ( PALIN / HOLTZ 2012 If you vote Democrat you support infanticide)
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To: xzins

However, if Islam decides to accept some scripture and reject others

Sounds like some Christians as well.


20 posted on 08/20/2010 10:35:22 AM PDT by Bitsy
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