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Harold Camping and Rapture Sadness (Family Radio Founder predicts Christ's return on 05/21/2011)
BeliefNet ^ | 08/12/2010 | Jason Boyett

Posted on 08/27/2010 8:16:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/27/2010 8:16:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

How do people not get “no man knows the time or day”.


2 posted on 08/27/2010 8:18:35 AM PDT by svcw (Everyday the enemy tries to offer you an apple, when God has already given us an orchard.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Stupidity abounds. Calclulations? What calculations? Show your work.

SnakeDoc


3 posted on 08/27/2010 8:19:58 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Shut it down" ... 00:00:03 ... 00:00:02 ... 00:00:01 ... 00:00:00.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Blasphemy. “But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone.”


4 posted on 08/27/2010 8:20:03 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: svcw

“How do people not get “no man knows the time or day”.”

Well, he’s got to get his ‘15 minutes of fame’ somehow! /s


5 posted on 08/27/2010 8:20:43 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: SeekAndFind
One of the consequences of narcissism is that the narcissist believes that he is so important that the entire universe will surely end when he dies.

End-time prophets fall into this category.

6 posted on 08/27/2010 8:21:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: svcw

exactly! Love your tag line by the way!!


7 posted on 08/27/2010 8:21:10 AM PDT by pollywog ("Under His Wings".........Psalm 91:4)
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t forget to buy your ascention robes and Charles Miller tee shirts.


8 posted on 08/27/2010 8:21:17 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: SeekAndFind

Only a false prophet would identify a date certain.

Having said that, Jesus is coming for His bride - in the timing of the Father. Believers should be rejoicing & looking forward to that fact.


9 posted on 08/27/2010 8:21:39 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: SnakeDoctor

Yeah, in Calculus class you gave up the 15 points if you didn’t show your work. The least he could do is publish his computations ... I’m a mathematician by profession and a committed believer in Christ. I would be happy to give the computations a fair shake despite my bias going in.


10 posted on 08/27/2010 8:23:55 AM PDT by dartuser ("Palin 2012 ... nothing else will do.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Like the guy who stands on the corner & rants at the passersby, prophesying a date of the end times does far more harm than good.

"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."

11 posted on 08/27/2010 8:25:06 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind

Looks like I’ll have to change that dental appointment.


12 posted on 08/27/2010 8:26:23 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank you for calling and sharing


13 posted on 08/27/2010 8:27:02 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I aspire to a large carbon footprint; just like Al Gore's)
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To: SnakeDoctor

RE: Calclulations? What calculations? Show your work.

Here is a sample from Harold Camping’s latest book entitled: “We are Almost There!”


The church age embraced, to the very day, exactly 1,955 years in that it began on Pentecost day, May 22, A.D. 33, and ended the day before Pentecost on May 21, 1988 (A.D.). (p. 29)

As we have noted, God further solidifies or locks in this date, May 21, 2011, by placing the day of shutting the door, when the rapture will occur, on the 17th day of the second month of the Biblical calendar. Significantly, the number 17 links perfectly to the fact of the rapture because spiritually, the number 17 signifies heaven.

Moreover, the number 2 (second month) spiritually identifies with those who have been commissioned to bring the Gospel. Is it not amazing that they will be raptured on the 17th day of the second month? Is that coincidental?
We also have learned that the last day of the earth’s existence, October 21, 2011, is the 23rd day of the seventh month of the Biblical calendar. The number 23 normally signifies God’s wrath being poured out. The number 7 (seventh month) signifies the perfect fulfillment of God’s purposes. Could this also be coincidental, that the final completion of God’s punishment on the unsaved occurs in the seventh month on a day that features the number 23, which is a number that completely identifies with God’s wrath, thus signifying God’s perfect wrath on the unsaved? (p. 61-62).


By Camping’s understanding, the Bible was dictated by God and every word and number carries a spiritual significance. He noticed that particular numbers appeared in the Bible at the same time particular themes are discussed.

The number 5, Camping concluded, equals “atonement.” Ten is “completeness.” Seventeen means “heaven.” Camping patiently explained how he reached his conclusion for May 21, 2011.

“Christ hung on the cross April 1, 33 A.D.,” he began. “Now go to April 1 of 2011 A.D., and that’s 1,978 years.”

Camping then multiplied 1,978 by 365.2422 days – the number of days in each solar year, not to be confused with a calendar year.

Next, Camping noted that April 1 to May 21 encompasses 51 days. Add 51 to the sum of previous multiplication total, and it equals 722,500.

Camping realized that (5 x 10 x 17) x (5 x 10 x 17) = 722,500.

Or put into words: (Atonement x Completeness x Heaven), squared.

“Five times 10 times 17 is telling you a story,” Camping said. “It’s the story from the time Christ made payment for your sins until you’re completely saved.

“I tell ya, I just about fell off my chair when I realized that,” Camping said…

Rick LaCasse, who attended the September 1994 service in Alameda, said that 15 years later, his faith in Camping has only strengthened.

“Evidently, he was wrong,” LaCasse allowed, “but this time it is going to happen. There was some doubt last time, but we didn’t have any proofs. This time we do.”

Would his opinion of Camping change if May 21, 2011, ended without incident?


14 posted on 08/27/2010 8:27:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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The good news is that we won't have to deal with that pesky 2012 Mayan calendar apocalypse.

Actually that pesky 2012 Mayan calendar aligns quite nicely with Revelations!

An Apocalypse (Greek: Ἀποκάλυψις Apokálypsis; "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an...

IMO, We are about to witness a new beginning here on Earth. We first have to get through the next 5-1/2 years of tribulation.

15 posted on 08/27/2010 8:28:16 AM PDT by Errant
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I love Harold Camping! I torture my kids by putting him on the television and leaving him there while they moan and groan.

He's about 167 years old and rambles on in a droning monotone about nonsense. He makes the children cry when they want to watch Spongebob. It's fun!

16 posted on 08/27/2010 8:31:22 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Con artists come in all shapes and sizes.

Camping is a dirty old man end-times Bernie Madoff.

Leni

17 posted on 08/27/2010 8:31:25 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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RE: I would be happy to give the computations a fair shake despite my bias going in.

Want to see how Camping does it ? You have to read his book.

Here’s a sample :

“Christ hung on the cross April 1, 33 A.D.,” he began. “Now go to April 1 of 2011 A.D., and that’s 1,978 years.”

Camping then multiplied 1,978 by 365.2422 days – the number of days in each solar year, not to be confused with a calendar year.

Next, Camping noted that April 1 to May 21 encompasses 51 days. Add 51 to the sum of previous multiplication total, and it equals 722,500.

Camping realized that (5 x 10 x 17) x (5 x 10 x 17) = 722,500.

Or put into words: (Atonement x Completeness x Heaven), squared.

“Five times 10 times 17 is telling you a story,” Camping said. “It’s the story from the time Christ made payment for your sins until you’re completely saved.

For one historical point that should be of interest , the crucifixion was a couple of years earlier than that, hence the “rapture” according to Harold Camping’s “1,978 years logic” should have been no later than May of 2009 (33 A.D. for the crucifixion year has been eliminated by most serious biblical scholars). His followers should take the time and look at what the Bible does and does not teach–as it does not teaching many of the calculations that he is teachings.

Notice the basis for the 1,978 years according to Harold Camping:

1978 = 2 x 23 x 43
Number 2 symbolizes those who are to bring the Gospel.
Number 23 symbolizes wrath
Number 43 symbolizes judgment

Thus, by the number 1,978, God is emphasizing that judgment will fall on those who had been commissioned to bring the Gospel (2) and are still subject to the wrath of God (23 and 43). (We are Almost There!, p. 64)


18 posted on 08/27/2010 8:33:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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We also have learned that the last day of the earth’s existence, October 21, 2011

I sure hope he's wrong. USC is scheduled to play Notre Dame in South Bend the next day.

19 posted on 08/27/2010 8:34:05 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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I love Harold Camping! I torture my kids by putting him on the television and leaving him there while they moan and groan


HAROLD EGBERT CAMPING for those who can stand his show.
20 posted on 08/27/2010 8:35:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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