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I am sorry Glenn but I cannot join you
Reformation Theology ^ | Pastor John Samson

Posted on 08/31/2010 6:42:35 PM PDT by Gamecock

I really like Glenn Beck. Though I have never met him in person, I have often watched his television programs and thought it would be so nice to have that kind of a guy as a friend. I imagine that he is far too busy and way too inaccessible for that to become a reality, but I do genuinely like the man. He is insightful, articulate, funny, and seems to want some great things for his family and our nation. I do think that sometimes he has one or two conspiracy theories that may not be fully justified - we shall see - but all in all, Glenn seems to be a really nice guy.

I share many of the same goals as Glenn. I speak as one born in England but now very much a U.S. citizen. All my children were born here in these United States and I live and pray for America to become in all reality, "one nation under God." I love America. I sincerely believe Glenn does too.

But I do have a problem - not a problem with him as a person in any way at all, but when he asks me to join him in praying for the very same things I wish for my country, I just cannot. I can pray for these things privately, and with fellow Christians, of course, and I do. I just cannot stand with Glenn in a public setting and be comfortable while I know he is praying to a false god. How could I ever say "Amen" at the end of his prayer that people would turn back to the god he serves? I just cannot do it. That is because Glenn Beck is a Mormon. The "god" he prays to is not in any way the same God as mine.

I know.. I know.. even saying this is politically and religiously incorrect, but I cannot help but say it. When Glenn Beck speaks of "god" we need to remember that he uses a different dictionary to Christians. The God of the Bible is One in essence and eternally exists in three co-equal Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Mormons reject this completely, believing that there are many worlds controlled by different gods and the god of this planet was once a man. The Jesus of Mormonism is the begotten offspring of this exalted man in sexual union with one of his many wives, and this god lives on a planet circling a star named Kolob, and his "gospel" is the message of how you, too, can be exalted to godhood. Christianity is Monotheistic. Mormonism is the most polytheistic religion in the world. Doctrine matters folks and deceived people, deceive people!

A dear fellow Christian, in coming to understand where I am on this issue wrote to me today saying, "I like Glenn Beck and appreciate his effort to bring America back to her godly roots. He is doing a great job in uniting government, church, and media. He does speak from a Mormon perspective but still has a heart of seeing America return to God even though he might not have the same theological view as we do."

I responded by saying, " I understand you - but I cannot agree that Mormonism is in any way "godly." According to the Bible, there is nothing at all godly about false religion. Godliness is not just about acts of service, honor, integrity, courage and the like, as wonderful as these things are, but it also includes worship of the One true God and the avoidance of all forms of idolatry. Mormonism is idolatrous worship and when Glenn Beck prays, despite his intentions, he prays to a false god who cannot help either Mr. Beck or America."

I can remember reading about the worshippers of the golden calf. They had high family values and were absolutely sincere in their worship. Now I may not be the sharpest tool in the drawer, but I do tend to get the distinct impression that God didn't like the worship - yeah, the ground opening up and swallowing the worshippers.. hmmm... it does lead me to believe that God was somehow ticked, wouldn't you say?

And then I wonder what God would feel about a "prophet" in the Old Testament asking Baal to bring Israel back to its godly roots. I think in such times, he would be stoned. In Deuteronomy 18:20 God says to His people, "But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die."

God often tested His people by seeing if they would be true to Him even as false prophets tried to lure them away from Himself. God says, "If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst" (Deuteronomy 13:1-5).

Thank God for grace!!! (we don't stone false prophets now) but I believe God's feelings about false worship have not changed. As Glenn Beck calls this nation to pray for some very valuable, important and even vital things, I ask now, is God testing us in the same way today? Perhaps God has raised Glenn Beck up for this very purpose, to test our hearts. Just a thought!

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord, the one and only God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the eternal One, Yahweh, the great I AM, the Alpha and Omega, who is from everlasting to everlasting.

So, though I really like you Glenn, thanks for the invite, but I cannot join you.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Other Christian
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To: Elsie

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701 posted on 09/06/2010 7:08:36 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Jumping in front of a parade and calling yourself "leader" doesn't make you one.)
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To: Gamecock

Vote for 0bama or Hillary then.


702 posted on 09/08/2010 7:00:51 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan ("Pray for America")
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To: Tennessee Nana
If America looks at Beck as it’s new spiritual leader we will be punished.

Punished worse than having a Marxist, Muslim, as president that seeks to destroy the very country set up by great men through the Constitution, and destroy the country that has been defended by God fearing people for the past 200+ years?

704 posted on 09/08/2010 7:48:56 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan ("Pray for America")
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To: hennie pennie
don't they realize that Beck belongs to a CULT, Beck is a CULTIST, and whatever Beck's Ward Bishop tells Beck to do, Beck will do.

Hennie, please step away from the keyboard, take a few deep breaths and possibly count to 10.

You really have no, absolutely no idea, how silly this sounds.

I mean, come on...Do you really believe that?

705 posted on 09/08/2010 8:51:18 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan ("Pray for America")
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Becks jesus is the brother of Lucifer.

That ain’t my God.

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very confused about religion aren’t you//////very immature and naive.....too bad


706 posted on 09/10/2010 8:56:27 PM PDT by terycarl (interested and informed)
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To: SuzyQue

your statement is inane,,,,there are lots of Christians, all but Catholics are wrong, but Mormans are not Christians......period


707 posted on 09/10/2010 9:05:22 PM PDT by terycarl (interested and informed)
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To: chris_bdba

Yes they are and anyone who told you otherwise lied to you.

no they aren’t.....they believe that you can become God....feeling overly religious right now????as man is, god was, as God is, man can become.....how does that meld with Christianity?????? Either read up on what you’re talking about or be quiet


708 posted on 09/10/2010 9:13:25 PM PDT by terycarl (interested and informed)
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To: antceecee

I am a Roman Catholic and growing up in the 50’s and 60’s I had many neighbor kids (Protestants... mainly Baptist) tell me and my siblings that we were NOT Christians because Catholics were heathens that worshiped saints like Cleopatra. Ignorance is bliss for some

Wow, Saint Cleopatra...never heard of that one......Whenever I waqs challenged on Catholicism, I would ask who started your Lutheran denomination, who started your Methodist denomination, how about your Episcopal denomination......then I’d point out that Jesus founded the Catholic Church and no one could refute my statement!!!!


709 posted on 09/10/2010 9:19:34 PM PDT by terycarl (interested and informed)
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To: terycarl

No, I am not confused about religion. I am a student of religions.

Mormon beliefs include the heretical and blasphemous idea that Jesus is the brother of Lucifer.

That’s not Jesus Christ and that’s not the Jesus Christ of the Holy Bible.


710 posted on 09/10/2010 9:23:35 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: terycarl

Terycarl - you might try understanding the question before you shoot off an answer that misses the point.


711 posted on 09/11/2010 6:08:58 AM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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