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Evangelical Scholar Troubled by Theological Ambiguity at Beck Rally (Many Christians Seem Confused)
Christian Post ^ | 09/02/2010 | Nathan Black

Posted on 09/02/2010 6:59:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Joann37
I’ve heard Beck say that he became a Mormon just because of his wife - that that was her faith.

here is what Beck has said.. his wife would not marry him unless they had A CHURCH...together they visited various churches and finally an LDS friend invited THEM to a mormon church. They both loved it and so they joined it..

link

81 posted on 09/02/2010 8:27:33 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Salvation

But look at Catholicism!

They pray to “saints”, worship and pray to Mary, the mother of God, even though Scripture clearly tells us to pray to the Father, in the Name of Jesus. And they seem plenty “works oriented” as far as salvation is concerned.

They deviate from Scripture as well. Not sure which faith (LDS or Catholicism) does more.


82 posted on 09/02/2010 8:28:18 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: Gamecock

I pray in the Name of Jesus that more will come forward and expose the mormonism of Glenn Beck as not being Christianity...


83 posted on 09/02/2010 8:29:36 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SeekAndFind

It would be easy to make too big a deal out of this whole thing. Beck has always sounded like more of a real Christian than a Mormon to me. Fact is, he may know little or nothing about Mormon doctrine.


84 posted on 09/02/2010 8:30:25 AM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
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To: r9etb
I think we are saying the same thing.

Understanding doctrine = knowing and understanding the Gospel.

85 posted on 09/02/2010 8:30:39 AM PDT by Pete
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To: greyfoxx39
agreeing on political philosophy doesn’t give anyone automatic credibility when it comes to spiritual matters.

That's exactly right..... Becks political philosopy should not give him a platform to promote his religion, but he is walking a very fine line as the Mormon Leadership will in time require more of him in that respect...subtle though it will be at first...and just as we have witnessed at his rally. He has not yet swallowed the Mormonism doctrines in entire and prayerfully we will see him turn away in time. Otherwise he will loose the Christian communities support if he attempts to "preach" Mormonism.

86 posted on 09/02/2010 8:31:54 AM PDT by caww
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To: Gamecock
Who cares????

I am really tired of the jihad against Mormons on this web site. It's an embarrassment. It takes up valuable bandwidth, time and energy that could and should be put into a positive effort to get conservatives elected. The negativity of these anti-Mormon diatribes is dragging down the whole web site as well as the conservative movement.

...and it makes you all look like a bunch of nuts.

My advice to everyone is: Don't feed the animals. Don't get pulled into these threads, like I just was. If we don't post on these threads, they will die off a lot quicker. They can't argue if we don't respond.

87 posted on 09/02/2010 8:32:39 AM PDT by Eva
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To: r9etb

It is faith that saves, not belief.

Even demons believe and shudder.

Do you have FAITH that the living Christ has paid the penalty for your sin? Or do you just believe.

Now here is where Mormonism and Christianity split. Mormonism teaches that Christ paid the price and conquered over death - therefore all mankind is “saved” regardless of faith. Mormonism ALSO teaches that only those who keep the commandments and partake of ordinances and covenants by “worthy” LDS members within the LDS Temple will receive Celestial glory and dwell with their “heavenly father.” All others will live eternally separated from God - I don’t think that is what Christians think of as Salvation, this is hell.

Christians have faith that Christ paid the penalty of their sin and this allows them communion with God through the Holy Spirit. Belief in some kind of god is not what saves them, but faith enough to rely on Christ as their Savior is vital. God saves them through faith and not the works of ordinances and covenants. If you have ‘faith’ then you rest in the arms of Christ - if you have ‘belief,’ but not faith you don’t rest in Him, you strive to save yourself.


88 posted on 09/02/2010 8:33:30 AM PDT by colorcountry ("The power of facts is much greater than the power of argument.")
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To: Venturer

Truth is not found in numbers.. many are called but few are chosen .. the road to numbers is wide.. the way of truth is narrow..

I think He is concerned for the name of Christ and His honor


89 posted on 09/02/2010 8:34:26 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: SeekAndFind
Evangelical Scholar Troubled by Theological Ambiguity at Beck Rally (Many Christians Seem Confused)

Before I read through the thread, I predict, 95% of posters don't get, that if you make it about God, you have to have the God part right.

90 posted on 09/02/2010 8:35:05 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("evangelicals don't know Torah well enough to be theonomists." --D. G. Hart)
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To: caww; greyfoxx39
This quote from the article sums it up pretty well for me

"The bottom line is ... we've been used and we've allowed ourselves to be used at times by politicians and others who co-opted God talk,"

Had this rally been promoted as a political rally - I would not have had any problems with it. But it was promoted as a religious rally - no politics. Yet we see the spinoffs - most everyone can see that plainly it was a political rally with God mixed in. Were this to have been a spiritual rally to bring us back to God, it would have taken a whole different form and message.

91 posted on 09/02/2010 8:36:00 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: FairWitness

Wow how sad...


92 posted on 09/02/2010 8:36:23 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: FairWitness
"I suspect a great many men (myself included) could give a similar reason for the church they attend."

And that fact doesn't make them "non-Christians". God knows those that are His (men don't), and they are scattered all over the face of the earth inside and outside organizations of men (wheat among the tares). The true Church is invisible and is comprised of individuals in whom the Holy Spirit resides. Only God knows who they are. End of story.

93 posted on 09/02/2010 8:36:58 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (BP was founder of Cap & Trade Lobby and is linked to John Podesta, The Apollo Alliance and Obama)
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To: Walts Ice Pick

And you would be wrong.


94 posted on 09/02/2010 8:38:50 AM PDT by svcw (Everyday the enemy tries to offer you an apple, when God has already given us an orchard.)
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To: Eva

Mormon?


95 posted on 09/02/2010 8:39:26 AM PDT by Gamecock (Mormonism: The more you know the goofier it is!)
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To: colorcountry

Good question. I hadn’t thought about that. I’d like an LDS source, I guess, since I’d like to know what LDS believe, not someone elses viewpoint on it.


96 posted on 09/02/2010 8:39:53 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Save America)
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To: Genoa

Amen.


97 posted on 09/02/2010 8:40:33 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Matchett-PI

Not true.. .that is the excuse Christians give for him

Here is his “testimony”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKtAPT9KEfM


98 posted on 09/02/2010 8:40:54 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Joann37

Not true.. .that is the excuse Christians give for him

Here is his “testimony”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKtAPT9KEfM


99 posted on 09/02/2010 8:41:34 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: svcw

And you could be right about the guy. I do get the feeling that Beck wants people to “think” he’s a regular Christian.


100 posted on 09/02/2010 8:44:55 AM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
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