Posted on 09/23/2010 1:28:42 PM PDT by marshmallow
You misunderstand, I haven’t discussed this issue with you.
And, yes, I agree that too much of the “Trial” is done in the media without knowing the facts.
It won’t stop unfortunately. Christians are held to a different standard. Catholics are held to an incredibly high standard.
The sin of one becomes the sin of all.
Many people have an interest in delighting in others’ failures.
Good night.
“it appears that you are concerned about the publicity..”
Is that what you think?
You tell me. Are you concerned?
The just is first accuser of himself:Koran Child Porn Charge for SC Pastor, Wife
his friend cometh, and shall search him.
-- Proverbs 18:17
Exactly ... the greek biblical word bishop can also be translated "overseer" so I guess they just use it as they will
However, if this theory is valid, then the Baptists would appear to have a valid claim for apostolic succession to parallel that other group.
What say you?
“You tell me. Are you concerned”
Nope, my concerns:
-The willingness of Christians to try other Christians based solely on media accounts and to pass judgment on them before they have any basis for so doing.
-The fact that there appears to be an amazing stupor in Church Leadership’s eyes to exactly how the World searches high and low for anything to accuse Christian leadership of engaging in malfeasance.
When Christ said ‘if the world hates you, remember it hated me first” he was not talking to the air, the World truly does hate what even claims to be good, let alone actually is good, so extra precautions should have been a part of every day life for the Church no matter the denomination.
The World is going to say what it says at all times, however the Church should make it a priority not to prove what the World says about it to be true.
So it's two posts out of how many? Work that out as a percentage.
It will be less than 1%.
If you survey a longer time period it will probably be less than 0.1%.
Is that supposed to prove the point that "I'm on a quest"?
Imputing motives seems to be a bad habit of yours. I'm not putting anyone on trial.
And why do you keep blathering about CNN? The news is everywhere.
It's really simple.
If a civil lawsuit is filed alleging sexual impropriety by a megachurch pastor, that is news whether you like it or not. Irrespective of guilt or innocence.
If you think it isn't then walk us through the alternative. Let me start you out. The alternative is to keep it quiet. IMHO, that would be far worse in the long run. Why? Because news would leak out one way or another, which in turn would lead to rumors, many of them false, which would in turn would lead to accusations of cover-ups and fixes. Is that how you'd prefer this to unfold?
Far better to be open about it publish it and let the cards fall where they may.
twinks...the mature homosexual’s hiney of choice
nah, these sorts like boys that are post pubescent but not quite yet a man...the ideal for homosexual lust
Haggard would have been too brow heavy if you know what I mean
He probably liked the black version of a young Leif Garrett look
or he may have had that black man’s blonde thing going on just in a battyman way
in any event ...yuck...what is it with these guys?
it ain’t right
Oh, I see - when you said If you think I'm on a quest, I challenge you to post a link to any previous stories I've posted of Protestant hanky panky, you didn't mean to end the sentence with a period, you didn't mean "sexual behavior", and you didn't mean "any" - you actually meant "sexual abuse" and "just this year". So what about those four threads that you posted earlier this summer? I guess you didn't mean "any this year" either. You meant "a meaningful percentage out of this year". Gotcha.
If you wanted to play "Three Card Monty", you could have said so.
....If a civil lawsuit is filed alleging sexual impropriety by a megachurch pastor, that is news whether you like it or not. Irrespective of guilt or innocence....The alternative is to keep it quiet. IMHO, that would be far worse in the long run. Why? Because news would leak out one way or another, which in turn would lead to rumors, many of them false, which would in turn would lead to accusations of cover-ups and fixes. Is that how you'd prefer this to unfold?
Far better to be open about it publish it and let the cards fall where they may.
BWA HAHAHAHAHAHA
I figured the math would upset the apple cart.
The story is about alleged sexual impropriety by a Protestant pastor. Here's what I was accused of:
"Marshmellow, and several other Catholic FReepers are on a quest to somehow rehab the Catholic Churches handling of their own priest sex scandal via posting whatever accusations they can find of a Protestant Clergyman engaging in the same behavior."
The words used by my accuser were " priest sex scandal". Quote/unquote. Did you get that? He set the terms of reference, not me. Thus when I wrote " If you think I'm on a quest, I challenge you to post a link to any previous stories I've posted of Protestant hanky panky", I was referring to precisely this; Protestant clerical sex scandals. Of which you've found two instances, not four.
So out of the hundreds of articles I've posted this year, two pertain to this issue. If you search over a longer time period, I'll bet the number of articles I've posted on this subject as a fraction of the total articles I've posted is even lower.
I could take any one day at random and find more articles posted by you on the subject of Catholic sex abuse than I've posted on Protestant sex abuse in an entire year. I was actually surprised you didn't post this news, Alex. Did you miss it??
When the accused is a Catholic priest. What do I win?
....If a civil lawsuit is filed alleging sexual impropriety by a megachurch pastor, that is news whether you like it or not. Irrespective of guilt or innocence....The alternative is to keep it quiet. IMHO, that would be far worse in the long run. Why? Because news would leak out one way or another, which in turn would lead to rumors, many of them false, which would in turn would lead to accusations of cover-ups and fixes. Is that how you'd prefer this to unfold? Far better to be open about it publish it and let the cards fall where they may.
-- FReeper marshmallow, September 23, 2010
Is he once saved, always saved?
Yes, these stories cannot be suppressed and do need to be posted, just as you've highlighted.
What's strange however, is the manner in which they're posted. Firstly there appears to be a fixation on this issue and other types of scandal to the almost complete exclusion of other Catholic topics and secondly, the process is accompanied not infrequently, by a cheerful banter, bordering on gloating, between yourself and other non-Catholic Freepers.
Freepers can make up their own minds as to which one of us is on "a quest".
” 25,000-member megachurch “ —> wht does that mean? they have services with 25000 people weekly?
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