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Bishop Eddie Long (PICTURES): Who is The Pastor Accused in Gay Sex Scandal?
CBS News ^ | 9/23/10

Posted on 09/23/2010 1:28:42 PM PDT by marshmallow

ATLANTA (CBS/AP) New pictures have surfaced of Bishop Eddie Long, prominent pastor of a 25,000-member megachurch outside Atlanta, as a third man has come forward accusing the anti-gay advocate of coercing him into sex.

CBS News' Erica Hill reports the pastor allegedly sent his accusers numerous photos of himself including at least several of him wearing spandex and workout clothes.

It's not known precisely how the photos surfaced.

B.J. Bernstein, an attorney for the three plaintiffs, said Long sent her clients dozens of e-mails, but they weren't "overly sexual," she said.

Long canceled an interview with the Tom Joyner Morning Show Thursday, opting instead to make his first public response to the sex allegations during a service at his Atlanta-area church on Sunday, according to his lawyer, who appeared on the nationally syndicated radio show in Long's absence.

Attorney Craig Gillen told Joyner that Long took young men on trips as part of a mentoring program, but stands by his denial of claims that he had sex with three of them.

In lawsuits filed this week, three men who were members of the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church claimed Long coerced them into sexual relations with gifts including cars, cash and travel when they were 17 or 18 years old. The sprawling church in Lithonia, Ga., about 18 miles outside of Atlanta, counts politicians, celebrities and the county sheriff among its members and hosted four U.S. presidents during the 2006 funeral of Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s widow, Coretta Scott King.

One of the claims in the lawsuits is that Long had sexual contact with the young men, who were enrolled in New Birth's ministry for teen boys, during trips he took them on in the U.S. and abroad. Gillen said the travel was part of a mentoring program that..........

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TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: baptist; eddielong; freformed; homosexualagenda
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To: padre35

You misunderstand, I haven’t discussed this issue with you.

And, yes, I agree that too much of the “Trial” is done in the media without knowing the facts.

It won’t stop unfortunately. Christians are held to a different standard. Catholics are held to an incredibly high standard.

The sin of one becomes the sin of all.

Many people have an interest in delighting in others’ failures.

Good night.


41 posted on 09/23/2010 4:08:02 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: trisham

“it appears that you are concerned about the publicity..”

Is that what you think?


42 posted on 09/23/2010 4:08:51 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: padre35

You tell me. Are you concerned?


43 posted on 09/23/2010 4:11:52 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: marshmallow; padre35
I challenge you to post a link to any previous stories I've posted of Protestant hanky panky.
The just is first accuser of himself:
his friend cometh, and shall search him.
-- Proverbs 18:17
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44 posted on 09/23/2010 4:56:51 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: NYer
So it’s a self-appointed title?

Exactly ... the greek biblical word bishop can also be translated "overseer" so I guess they just use it as they will

45 posted on 09/23/2010 5:12:50 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (........Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. Mat 22:29 )
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To: wmfights
Maybe Bishop Long's behavior is proof that Donatists were Anabaptist since the behaviors and dispositions of both groups appear to match. To bad the Emperor Constantine isn't still around so Long could appeal.

However, if this theory is valid, then the Baptists would appear to have a valid claim for apostolic succession to parallel that other group.

What say you?

46 posted on 09/23/2010 5:51:24 PM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: bronx2
Typical
47 posted on 09/23/2010 6:34:22 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: trisham

“You tell me. Are you concerned”

Nope, my concerns:

-The willingness of Christians to try other Christians based solely on media accounts and to pass judgment on them before they have any basis for so doing.

-The fact that there appears to be an amazing stupor in Church Leadership’s eyes to exactly how the World searches high and low for anything to accuse Christian leadership of engaging in malfeasance.

When Christ said ‘if the world hates you, remember it hated me first” he was not talking to the air, the World truly does hate what even claims to be good, let alone actually is good, so extra precautions should have been a part of every day life for the Church no matter the denomination.

The World is going to say what it says at all times, however the Church should make it a priority not to prove what the World says about it to be true.


48 posted on 09/23/2010 7:21:34 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Alex Murphy; padre35
Four...... out of how many total posts? I mean just this year. And two of those you've linked to have nothing to do with Protestant clerical sexual abuse. The ordination of homosexual clergy in the Anglican Church pertains to the issue of the breakup of the Anglican communion.

So it's two posts out of how many? Work that out as a percentage.

It will be less than 1%.

If you survey a longer time period it will probably be less than 0.1%.

Is that supposed to prove the point that "I'm on a quest"?

49 posted on 09/23/2010 9:11:40 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: padre35
So it is you intention to conduct a trial by media, what case, exactly, are we trying? Can we make motions, depose witnesses, rely on CNN to completely inform us on the details of the case?

Imputing motives seems to be a bad habit of yours. I'm not putting anyone on trial.

And why do you keep blathering about CNN? The news is everywhere.

It's really simple.

If a civil lawsuit is filed alleging sexual impropriety by a megachurch pastor, that is news whether you like it or not. Irrespective of guilt or innocence.

If you think it isn't then walk us through the alternative. Let me start you out. The alternative is to keep it quiet. IMHO, that would be far worse in the long run. Why? Because news would leak out one way or another, which in turn would lead to rumors, many of them false, which would in turn would lead to accusations of cover-ups and fixes. Is that how you'd prefer this to unfold?

Far better to be open about it publish it and let the cards fall where they may.

50 posted on 09/23/2010 9:23:23 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: trumandogz

twinks...the mature homosexual’s hiney of choice


51 posted on 09/23/2010 9:27:23 PM PDT by wardaddy (We are on a roll like I have never seen.)
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To: trumandogz

nah, these sorts like boys that are post pubescent but not quite yet a man...the ideal for homosexual lust

Haggard would have been too brow heavy if you know what I mean

He probably liked the black version of a young Leif Garrett look

or he may have had that black man’s blonde thing going on just in a battyman way

in any event ...yuck...what is it with these guys?

it ain’t right


52 posted on 09/23/2010 9:31:43 PM PDT by wardaddy (We are on a roll like I have never seen.)
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To: marshmallow; padre35
Four...... out of how many total posts? I mean just this year. And two of those you've linked to have nothing to do with Protestant clerical sexual abuse....So it's two posts out of how many? Work that out as a percentage. It will be less than 1%. If you survey a longer time period it will probably be less than 0.1%.

Oh, I see - when you said If you think I'm on a quest, I challenge you to post a link to any previous stories I've posted of Protestant hanky panky, you didn't mean to end the sentence with a period, you didn't mean "sexual behavior", and you didn't mean "any" - you actually meant "sexual abuse" and "just this year". So what about those four threads that you posted earlier this summer? I guess you didn't mean "any this year" either. You meant "a meaningful percentage out of this year". Gotcha.

If you wanted to play "Three Card Monty", you could have said so.

53 posted on 09/23/2010 9:37:02 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: marshmallow
Imputing motives seems to be a bad habit of yours. I'm not putting anyone on trial....

....If a civil lawsuit is filed alleging sexual impropriety by a megachurch pastor, that is news whether you like it or not. Irrespective of guilt or innocence....The alternative is to keep it quiet. IMHO, that would be far worse in the long run. Why? Because news would leak out one way or another, which in turn would lead to rumors, many of them false, which would in turn would lead to accusations of cover-ups and fixes. Is that how you'd prefer this to unfold?

Far better to be open about it publish it and let the cards fall where they may.

BWA HAHAHAHAHAHA

54 posted on 09/23/2010 9:50:20 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: Alex Murphy; padre35
Oh, I see - when you said If you think I'm on a quest, I challenge you to post a link to any previous stories I've posted of Protestant hanky panky, you didn't mean to end the sentence with a period, you didn't mean "sexual behavior", and you didn't mean "any" - you actually meant "sexual abuse" and "just this year". So what about those four threads that you posted earlier this summer? I guess you didn't mean "any this year" either. You meant "a meaningful percentage out of this year". Gotcha. If you wanted to play "Three Card Monty", you could have said so.

I figured the math would upset the apple cart.

The story is about alleged sexual impropriety by a Protestant pastor. Here's what I was accused of:

"Marshmellow, and several other Catholic FReepers are on a quest to somehow rehab the Catholic Churches handling of their own priest sex scandal via posting whatever accusations they can find of a Protestant Clergyman engaging in the same behavior."

The words used by my accuser were " priest sex scandal". Quote/unquote. Did you get that? He set the terms of reference, not me. Thus when I wrote " If you think I'm on a quest, I challenge you to post a link to any previous stories I've posted of Protestant hanky panky", I was referring to precisely this; Protestant clerical sex scandals. Of which you've found two instances, not four.

So out of the hundreds of articles I've posted this year, two pertain to this issue. If you search over a longer time period, I'll bet the number of articles I've posted on this subject as a fraction of the total articles I've posted is even lower.

I could take any one day at random and find more articles posted by you on the subject of Catholic sex abuse than I've posted on Protestant sex abuse in an entire year. I was actually surprised you didn't post this news, Alex. Did you miss it??

55 posted on 09/23/2010 10:05:25 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: padre35
Exactly, and I find that the most troubling aspect of all of this, since when do Christians conduct such trials by media?

When the accused is a Catholic priest. What do I win?

56 posted on 09/23/2010 10:26:09 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: marshmallow
I could take any one day at random and find more articles posted by you on the subject of Catholic sex abuse than I've posted on Protestant sex abuse in an entire year.

....If a civil lawsuit is filed alleging sexual impropriety by a megachurch pastor, that is news whether you like it or not. Irrespective of guilt or innocence....The alternative is to keep it quiet. IMHO, that would be far worse in the long run. Why? Because news would leak out one way or another, which in turn would lead to rumors, many of them false, which would in turn would lead to accusations of cover-ups and fixes. Is that how you'd prefer this to unfold? Far better to be open about it publish it and let the cards fall where they may.
-- FReeper marshmallow, September 23, 2010

57 posted on 09/23/2010 10:49:06 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: marshmallow

Is he once saved, always saved?


58 posted on 09/24/2010 12:35:32 AM PDT by AnneM62
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To: Alex Murphy
My posting of stories concerning Protestant sex abuse and your posting of stories on Catholic abuse are on logarithmically different scales, Alex. Apart from the occasional Mormon thread, you post nothing but Catholic stories.

Yes, these stories cannot be suppressed and do need to be posted, just as you've highlighted.

What's strange however, is the manner in which they're posted. Firstly there appears to be a fixation on this issue and other types of scandal to the almost complete exclusion of other Catholic topics and secondly, the process is accompanied not infrequently, by a cheerful banter, bordering on gloating, between yourself and other non-Catholic Freepers.

Freepers can make up their own minds as to which one of us is on "a quest".

59 posted on 09/24/2010 7:13:54 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow

” 25,000-member megachurch “ —> wht does that mean? they have services with 25000 people weekly?


60 posted on 09/24/2010 11:27:22 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is holy, the one Church, the true Church, the Catholic Church-St.Augustine)
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