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What Educated Non-Muslims Don't Like About Islam in a Nutshell
Citizen Warrior ^ | 09/01/2010 | Citizen Warrior

Posted on 10/17/2010 8:57:39 PM PDT by Lloyd227

What Educated Non-Muslims Don't Like About Islam in a Nutshell

Wednesday, September 1

#fullpost{display:inline;} altTHE QURAN is Islam's most holy book. Sixty-one percent of the Quran is about non-Muslims. Writings about what Muslims should do is religious. Writings about what non-Muslims should do or how Muslims should deal with non-Muslims is political (read more about this). Therefore, based on Islam's most holy book, Islam is more political (61%) than religious (39%).

There are 245 verses in the Quran that could be considered "positive verses" about non-Muslims. Every single one of those verses have been abrogated by later, negative verses about non-Muslims. Not one positive verse about non-Muslims is left.

In contrast, there are 527 verses of intolerance toward non-Muslims, and 109 verses specifically advocating violence towards non-Muslims. Not one of these verses has been abrogated.

My conclusion: Non-Muslims who like Islam don't know much about it.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; History; Islam; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: islam; muslim; religionofpeace; rop
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To: givemELL
Islam Explained in Layman’s Terms

This is a long post, but shows that where Muslims dominate, violence follows, even after they’ve taken control. Islam is a warrior’s code, not a religion.

Islam Explained in Layman’s Terms

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here’s how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77..5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.

Well, boys and girls, today we are letting the fox guard the henhouse. The wolves will be herding the sheep!

Obama appointed two devout Muslims to Homeland Security posts. Doesn’t this make you feel safer already? Arif Alikhan as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development and Kareem Shora as ADC National Executive Director.

NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout Catholic, a devout Jew or a devout Protestant...? Just wondering.

Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security positions? Doesn’t this make you feel safer already??

Was it not “Devout Muslims” who flew planes into U.S. buildings 8 years ago?

Was it not a Devout Muslim who killed 13 at Fort Hood?

21 posted on 10/17/2010 10:08:57 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: Lloyd227

ping


22 posted on 10/17/2010 10:17:12 PM PDT by RJR_fan (Christians need to reclaim and excel in the genre of science fiction.)
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To: Lloyd227

thanks for post. good info.


23 posted on 10/17/2010 10:18:37 PM PDT by Bhoy
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To: B4Ranch

You describe not growth, but metastasis.


24 posted on 10/17/2010 10:39:50 PM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: Psalm 144

Correct, yet our politicians happily hold both doors open for their breed. Beyond my powers to decipher.


25 posted on 10/17/2010 10:49:18 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: Psalm 144; goat granny
“only need 2 words to explain the headline.....their nuts..”

Their nuts is the objective.

They are nuts is their condition.


You're both right - they come into your country and breed like rabbits, so non-Muslims end up hating their nuts. Thus, the objective becomes clear.
26 posted on 10/17/2010 10:52:31 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: B4Ranch

Most informative post I’ve read in a long time on Islam’s cancerous reach.


27 posted on 10/17/2010 10:58:00 PM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: B4Ranch

I think, deep down, the elitist, western secular liberal wants to die, perhaps because he has no true reason to live. Certainly he wants western civilization to disappear. But there is something of the domesticated sheep in him - vapid, weak and frightened - and he is ready to pass out of this world because that would be the easiest thing to do.

I am OK with that, if that is his determination. I am not OK with being caught up in the situation WITH him, however.


28 posted on 10/17/2010 11:00:28 PM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: alancarp
Well, the last time I checked "superior or comparable" did not mean "change the entire meaning", which is certainly what the authors of this article demonstrate has been done.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Replacing a line of text with one that is supposedly "superior" does, in fact, imply "change the entire meaning". If you weren't changing the meaning, why rewrite it at all? How could a new text be superior if it did not change the meaning in some fundamental way?

Add to that the phrase "Whatever of Our revelations We repeal" and it is quite clear that the intention was to pave the way for complete alterations of meaning.
29 posted on 10/17/2010 11:02:31 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak
I hope you don't actually believe that. The context doesn't support replacement meanings in anything but the most liberal thinking. "Superior or comparable" does not give latitude to first say "Jews and Christians shall share in the Lord's reward" on the one hand, then later say "any religion other than Islam will never be accepted by God." (that's paraphrased, but relates directly to an actual example -- anybody wanna serve a God free to change his mind on a whim to that degree??).

If I am performing an edit to use 'superior' wording, then it's to nuance the meaning, not change it -- otherwise my entire credibility is at risk... which is entirely my point. If I say "Ramadan begins at sundown" and then later say "Ramadan begins at sundown at Mecca", then that's an example of a change for superior wording. It likewise still has comparable meaning. That's the kind of context involved here. But go through the links cited above in the original article. That's clearly not what's happening here. For a religion that prides itself on accuracy, this is a farce.

I'll tell you exactly what the Muslims would do with this, though: the existence of these redacted passages allow them to quote really nice sounding words and say "we are a religion of peace" while knowing that they have no standing whatsoever. You see, there's another principle of Islam also at work here: you can lie through your teeth about what Islam teaches if it would advance the cause.

30 posted on 10/18/2010 5:11:36 AM PDT by alancarp (Please don't tell Obama what comes after "trillion")
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To: Psalm 144

Let’s pray that Satan has all the company he wants and the Lord leaves us here on Earth to propagate is his resemblance.


31 posted on 10/18/2010 9:37:13 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: fr_freak

LOL :O)


32 posted on 10/18/2010 11:28:32 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: alancarp
I hope you don't actually believe that. The context doesn't support replacement meanings in anything but the most liberal thinking. "Superior or comparable" does not give latitude to first say "Jews and Christians shall share in the Lord's reward" on the one hand, then later say "any religion other than Islam will never be accepted by God."

This has nothing to do with what I believe - I'm not a Muslim. The point of the article, and my point, as well, was that the author of the Koran set it up so that he could change stuff at will and demand that muslims still believe it. In my opinion, that alone would make this religion and this book completely invalid, but we're not talking about me or my opinion. We're talking about how the Koran is a book full of lies. Well, this method of replacing old passages with "superior" ones is exactly how people can tell the lie of the Koran calling for peace when it really calls for death and slaughter. Your first post was ambiguous in that I couldn't tell if you were defending the wording or refuting it.
33 posted on 10/18/2010 2:53:34 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak
the lie of the Koran calling for peace

Point of interest: The Koran does call for peace. However, it is a peace contingent upon the conversion of ALL LIVING PEOPLE to Islam. It is peace through submission, peace through conquest.

This technicality is how Muslims and their useful idiots can call it the "religion of peace" and not be lying.

My question is: Peace at what cost?
34 posted on 10/19/2010 3:21:58 AM PDT by HushTX (Numbers 11:18-20)
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