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Know your popes: Historian Thomas W. Worcester traces dramatic changes in the papacy over 500 years
The Boston Globe ^ | October 24, 2010 | Lisa Wangsness

Posted on 10/26/2010 9:25:19 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

IDEAS: Pope Leo X, who reigned from 1513 to 1521, faced the Reformation, an immense challenge to the church. But you write that he was perhaps more interested in his pet elephant.

WORCESTER: The king of Portugal sent an elephant to the pope, which was a way of displaying, of course, Portugal’s power as an overseas empire and so on. But apparently Leo X was very much taken by that elephant.

IDEAS: It wasn’t until the middle of that century that Pope Paul III finally convened the Council of Trent to respond to the Reformation. What kind of problems did it address?

WORCESTER: [A main] reason they met was to reform the Catholic Church from within. That meant...getting the bishops to get their act together. At the time, many bishops did not even reside in their dioceses. And they often would hold several [posts]....Imagine if the archbishop of Boston were also archbishop of New York, and several other places, and didn’t reside in any of them...[and] the individual in question collected the income from all those places....If you think we have trouble today with bishops, it was worse, it was a lot worse.

IDEAS: When you talk about a papal army in that period, what does that mean?

WORCESTER: Popes raised armies just like any other head of state would do. But they often relied on mercenaries...at the time, to hire troops from outside one’s own country was done frequently....The famous Swiss guards that still exist at the Vatican, they go right back to Julius II...they’re both ceremonial at the Vatican today but they are also an actual police force.

IDEAS: When did the pope give up his territory in Italy, the papal states?

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; History; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Politics
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Five hundred years ago, the pope had more in common with a secular European ruler, write the Rev. Thomas W. Worcester and his coeditor, the Rev. James Corkery, in their new book, “The Papacy Since 1500: From Italian Prince to Universal Pastor.” The pope reigned over central Italy and frequently went to war to protect his territory. His interests were not just the church, or even his own reputation, but promoting his own family’s profile and fortune. The Vatican’s vast military spending was rivaled only by the fortunes it paid to great artists, architects, and legions of craftsmen. The pope rarely preached and almost never traveled outside Italy.

To appreciate the enormous difference between contemporary popes and their Renaissance predecessors is to understand how sweeping a transformation can come over a seemingly timeless institution. Worcester’s book contains a dozen essays by papal scholars exploring how the functions and image of the papal office changed over the centuries. Inspired in part by a popular course Worcester teaches on the evolution of the papacy at the College of the Holy Cross, where he is a professor, the book highlights the moments in history where an office that seems ancient and unchanging underwent a dramatic metamorphosis....

IDEAS: It wasn’t until the middle of that century that Pope Paul III finally convened the Council of Trent to respond to the Reformation. What kind of problems did it address?

WORCESTER: [A main] reason they met was to reform the Catholic Church from within. That meant...getting the bishops to get their act together. At the time, many bishops did not even reside in their dioceses. And they often would hold several [posts]....Imagine if the archbishop of Boston were also archbishop of New York, and several other places, and didn’t reside in any of them...[and] the individual in question collected the income from all those places....If you think we have trouble today with bishops, it was worse, it was a lot worse.

1 posted on 10/26/2010 9:25:24 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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Worcester’s book contains a dozen essays by papal scholars exploring how the functions and image of the papal office changed over the centuries. Inspired in part by a popular course Worcester teaches on the evolution of the papacy at the College of the Holy Cross, where he is a professor, the book highlights the moments in history where an office that seems ancient and unchanging underwent a dramatic metamorphosis.

Please read the article and see that Proff Worcester teaches at the College of the Holy Cross.


4 posted on 10/26/2010 9:52:03 AM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I was a student of his.


5 posted on 10/26/2010 9:52:39 AM PDT by Revenge of Sith
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To: Alex Murphy
This article is pretty tame, and seems to me to be fair, ending up showing the more contemporary Catholic Church in an overall positive light. At least compared to immediately prior to the Restoration.
If you don't mind, I'll take a portion of the quoted article out of italics, and highlight key parts for emphasis.

After reading the complete article, I don't see the "hate" you have been accused of (in previous deleted comments).

Plain, well documented history, but not hate.

6 posted on 10/26/2010 10:09:05 AM PDT by BlueDragon (....other than that we aint nothin' just good 'ol boys...)
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To: WestwardHo
Aah, you beat me to it. Good job.
7 posted on 10/26/2010 10:11:23 AM PDT by BlueDragon (....other than that we aint nothin' just good 'ol boys...)
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To: BlueDragon
After reading the complete article, I don't see the "hate" you have been accused of (in previous deleted comments). Plain, well documented history, but not hate.

Thank you - I think.

8 posted on 10/26/2010 10:16:58 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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i think this blows the never changing apostolic succession out the window ...


9 posted on 10/26/2010 11:14:17 AM PDT by RnMomof7 (Some call me harpy..God calls me His)
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To: RnMomof7

Hardly — the “never changing” is on dogma.


10 posted on 10/26/2010 2:06:54 PM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Alex Murphy

The article very effectively shows that inspite of the personal corruption of popes in the restoration period, the dogma of The Church stayed true. This was/is because The Holy Spirit looks after Christ’s Church and protects it — no other reason.


11 posted on 10/26/2010 2:10:08 PM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: RnMomof7

Not even remotely. Do you even know what Apostolic Succession is?


12 posted on 10/26/2010 5:49:52 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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