Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
In Christ Alone lyrics
Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;
In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm
What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand
In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save
?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live
There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again
And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ
Oh man. I don’t know what to say. Seriously... my jaw is agape.
yeah.....
If I have 5 accounts can I just close 2 of them?
No.
Is it that difficult for you to follow the rules the rest of us must follow?
You can’t be serious. Really? Do you honestly believe I have more than one account here? That’s just beyond absurd. Why would you even think that in the first place?
I see the haughty sorts of assertions just took flight to new heights, or depths . . .
in behalf of the
Vatican Alice in Wonderland School of Theology and Reality Mangling.
It’s difficult to recall a single solidly true assertion in that whole screed.
1. The Roman Catholic farce didn’t exist before 300-400 A.D.
2. The Vatican bureaucratic power-mongering self-serving elitist pile of magicsterical politicians couldn’t and can’t BEGIN to represent Holy Spirit nor anyone nor anything else wise, sensible, humble and righteous.
3. Brazen UNBIBLICAL falsehoods about Mary’s other blood sons and daughters;
Her purported ascension into Heaven;
Her purported taking over Holy Spirit’s job to draw all men to God;
Her purported taking over Christ’s job of being the only route to Salvation and to The Father;
Her purported acquiring the position of QUEEN OF HEAVEN;
Her purported rule over hell;
Her purported sharing in the God-head;
Her purportedly giving birth without breaking her hymen;
Her purportedly answering millions of prayers daily;
yada yada yada . . . are all hideously idolatrous, blasphemous, outrageous affronts and insults to God The Father, Son and Spirit.
IF Holy Spirit was ever involved with any Vatican congregations at all, He left the building centuries ago. He may be evident in groups of Charismatic Roman Catholics, in spite of the prissy hierarchy of the Vatican system.
Currently the Vatican is incrementally preparing the sheeple to accept that fallen angels are candidates for Salvation or not in need of Salvation. What a hideous, unBiblical position to take.
No big surprise, I guess . . . given that the Vatican uses a false rubberized ‘Bible,’ a rubberized history; a rubberized Daffynitionary; funny mathematics; irrational ‘logic,’ . . . etc. etc. etc.
Thanks for demonstrating so vividly and so brazenly some of the worst the Vatican system has to offer. It’s very helpful toward assisting authentic Biblical Christians in assessing the piles of crud the Vatican is built on.
So, how long have you been on this total fast?
Great post, metmom.
No Protestant bows down to the Bible or prays to the Bible or asks the Bible to intercede between them and God.
All those idolatries are the stock in trade of the papacy.
Rules for thee but not for me.....
Now, now.
Don’t ya know . . .
In the Vatican brances of Alice’s rabbit hole . . .
using forbidden contraceptives = not using them.
Lying about what Scripture says = telling the truth about Scripture.
Voting for abortions = not voting for abortions and remaining in good standing in the local congregation . . . rumor has it this is only a special dispensation allowed strictly and only to higher ranking politicos.
Lying about Mary = particularly spectacular righteousness.
etc. etc. etc. yada yada yada.
In a word....yes.
It wouldn't be the first time someone has done it and I'm sure it won't be the last.
If you don't like the fact that people suspect, with good reason, that that's the case, you have only yourself to blame.
People can read.
'Nuff said. Now drop it, too.
Oh, sure, talking donkeys and other kinds of biblical magic is the very "foundation of reason..."
All that is necessary to illustrate that faith is the precondition of reason is to ask you, do you have evidence for everything that you believe?
If I have to believe something, it's safe to say I don't have evidence. If I do have evidence, then I know it for a fact and I don't have to have faith that it is so.
Moreover, your claim that there is no objective evidence really entails a claim of omniscience, since you would have to have had to have searched everywhere and looked at all things at the same time to be able to make the claim
Your sophism is taking you in the wrong direction. I have asked for evidence on many an occasion by those who believe and I got excuses or worse, but no evidence. So far this lack of demonstrable evidence is 100%. If you think about it, rationally, it's a tall order to ask anyone to believe something just on your word. So I don't.
If I say I can levitate wouldn't you expect me to demonstrate it? Wouldn't you be skeptical and wouldn't you look for "tricks"? Sure you would, if you are reasonable, because levitation Harry Potter style doesn't happen in the real world. But, I suppose a six-year old might find it perfectly believable.
If God subsists (and He does)...
God "subsists"? What does God supposedly subsist in?
and has revealed Himself in His Word then we are entitled to believe Him on His authority
What evidence do you have that God revealed himself? If you have such evidence then please produce it. I am particularly interested to know how does one know it is God, and not the insanity, or better yet what is God (what is divine) so that we may positively identify him.
The bottom line is that to criticize the Christian's irrational "faith" on the grounds that "there is no objective evidence" for it is itself nothing more than an expression of a different religious faith
No, it's valid criticism. rejecting claims that cannot be backed with evidence is rational and justifiable.
a faith in which you presume the ultimate authority and self-sufficiency of your own finite human mind instead of the ultimate authority and self-sufficiency of the infinite God, a presumption that cannot help but result in futility, arbitrariness and irrationality.
That would be true if such were the case. But it's not. Ignorance of absolute truth does not allow us the freedom to invent truth, to create invisible and undetectable things and claim they exist. Our proofs must be compatible with our nature. We can't presume something exists unless we have evidence of it that is not only in our heads, but clearly demonstrable directly or indirectly.
The same can be said of many things about Christianity in general. You celebrate Christmas on Decmeber 25th. That's not biblical. Why do you celebrate a fictitious date and pretend that this is the day when your God was born of a woman? Every religion is man-made and therefore represents a man-made tradition.
Why does the church make up things about people which can't be Scripturally supported
For the same reason the Church made Christmas fall on December 25th. Not everything that was revealed is in the scriptures, and the scriptures clearly say so. That covers all the non-scriptural innovations. So, what seems to be the problem?
but rather is directly contradicted by a plain reading of the Bible, and pass them off as truth? The Bible doesn't teach it and that's all that counts.
Isn't that the same as asking why do you accept the Bible to be divinely inspired as pass it off as a matter of fact? is it because you choose to believe it? Well, some choose to believe that not eveyrhting that was revealed is in the Bible, especially because the Bible says so. Even the "sola scirptura" is a form of a made up truth that's not in the Bible...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2173647/posts?page=824#824
“If there is no truth, all that’s left is a struggle of propaganda.”
Where does it say that Joseph was in the stable? Who would have checked her physically to see if she is still a virgin and why?
Who's to say they didn't just adopt him from someone else?
People would have seen her with her belly sticking out as she was getting closer to delivery. If she was pregnant yesterday and tomorrow her belly is flat and she is holding a newborn baby in her arms, chances are she delivered it.
A fact not in evidence.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Let me guess. You're male....
AMEN.
To deny this assurance is only possible by denying the Scriptures as the word of God. Something Rome and its apologists do regularly on this forum.
Well...”fluff” makes a difference as well kosta. Also everyone we meet makes a difference. Just because you don’t see the results doesn’t mean that God isn’t working in ways He chooses not to reveal to you.
A vile tongue does not only affect the person who is the target, those who standby are also affected as are those met thereafter who learn of it. Our actions are like a wave that keeps on moving across the waters. Both the good and the bad. But in Gods hands He brings good from the bad. It is His way. We may not see it in this life but assuredly “all things” work for the good. We just don’t have the clear understanding or vision to it as so.
But works are not the “only” thing that matters...matter they do but not apart from Christ. And besides the good we do is as “filthy rags” when they stand alone.
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