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To: RnMomof7; boatbums; metmom

The divine presence leaves whent he host is dissolved inside the body.


5,084 posted on 12/10/2010 5:31:46 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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The divine presence leaves when the host is dissolved inside the body.

Ahhhhhhhhhhh . . . yes . . .

The Dogma of the Cheshire Cat PRESENCE.

--Fully PRESENT [goes the fantasy]
--not so fully present.
--less than not so fully present.
--less than less than not so fully present.
--MORE less PRESENT.
--Just a few crumbs worth still present.
--Just one or two crumbs worth left.
--Just a few molecules left.
--Just a few sub-atomic particles left.

.
.
.
!POOF!
!ALL!
!GONE!
[spiritual health nose dives].

5,092 posted on 12/10/2010 5:56:50 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: annalex; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
The divine presence leaves whent he host is dissolved inside the body.

Minutes then if not seconds. The host begins to dissolve in the mouth. It's not going to last long in the stomach.

This is contrary to the clear teaching of Scripture where Jesus says that He will not abandon us or leave us.

John 10:27-29 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.

John 14:23-24 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

Hebrews 13:5-6 Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, "I will never leave you nor forsake you." So we can confidently say, "The Lord is my helper; I will not fear; what can man do to me?"

5,098 posted on 12/10/2010 6:15:54 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: annalex; RnMomof7; boatbums; metmom

“The divine presence leaves whent he host is dissolved inside the body”

Ah...now this is very interesting! A definitive statement that can be examined.

I assume that you are referring to the wafer which is said to become the actual flesh of Christ upon being blessed. So what shall be said of the wine? At what point does “the divine presence” leave the wine?
And if this be so then is the participant ingesting bread and wine or flesh and blood? Does “the divine presence” leave at different points of ingestion for different persons? Say in the mouth, the stomach, the intestinal tract? Or is it a matter of time? After so minutes say?

But most importantly, How would anyone know this leaving of “the divine presence” had or had not occurred? Is there some teaching in the Catholic Catechism or of Catholic theologians? If so where?

I am most interested in learning how all this occurs!


5,105 posted on 12/10/2010 8:26:55 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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