Posted on 11/20/2010 7:38:09 AM PST by greyfoxx39
Yet ANOTHER ‘Bash the MORMONs’ thread by a hateful bigot!
WHEN will this EVER stop???
—MormonDude(WHY are they STILL mad about that APOSTATE statement? That was YEARS ago!)
In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.
1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.
I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.
Ezra Taft Benson
(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)
So...
Just WHERE is the comment that does this?
Or does just MENTIONING the fact she was LDS do it?
You noticed; eh?
I have to wonder how many more mothers are like that, with the amount of children that they have and the constant need to perfect in the eyes of fellow mormons.
“I believe that she will be excommunicated for not going to see the $200 an hour LDS counselors and exposing this to the public.”
I love your claims that you were a Mormon ‘high priest’ and bishopric member, because if you were you would actually know the facts about LDS Family Services. The $200 dollar/hour charge is laughable, I know first hand as my husband is a counselor for them, and has been in bishopric and stake calling for over 20 years. If you are going to lie about us, at least get your facts straight...
‘No one is perfect, this video is showing one devout mormon mom’s viciously desperate attempts to placate the merciless god of mormonism.’
You are correct, no one is perfect. As a Mormon wife and mother, I do not claim to be. Nor is my God merciless, he is a God of mercy for which I am eternally grateful. It is that fact that keeps me getting up everyday and trying again to be the best I can be. And I can not think of one Mormon mother that I know who thinks the behavior of this mother is acceptable. I for one was as sickened as anyone else.
My parents were raised in strong pentecostal homes where my father and his silings were beat by their father, judged by the mother as never good enough and raised on hellfire and brimstone by a God of fear. I have some family members who are awesome pentecostals, and do not judge all by my father’s family. To judge an entire religion by the acts of some is unacceptable. And to lie about them and then claim you are a Christian is, well, just sad.
So heart breaking I couldn’t even watch the whole thing. Does she still have those children?
What did Dr Phil say to her?
Just from the little bit I watched I feel sick. I treat my dogs better than that!
"To judge an entire religion by the acts of some is unacceptable."
Joseph Smith judged ALL religions as "abominable" based on the acts of some...do you find this "unacceptable"? When mormons claim God removed His Gospel from the earth because those religions were wrong, do you find this acceptable?
Perhaps you failed to read in my posts that this woman was "called" to be the stake primary president. IMO, the leaders that failed to discern her character share the blame for her actions...or...discernment is not all it's cracked up to be.
Mormons would like to hold all Christian faiths accountable for the acts of some, yet every single time that a missionary, mormon leader or member utters the words "RESTORATION" OR "APOSTASY" they are criticizing ALL Christian faiths.
The tendency of many mormons to falsely consider themselves superior to any and all who do not share their religion leads to their outrage when stories like this are published.
As the mormons here on FR love to quote, "by their fruits".
I didn't see any more than that clip, but I've heard that he told her that all her children should be removed from the home and there is supposed to be a follow-up in the future.
There is more to be seen at the woman's blog where she talks about her children, especially her daughter. Scroll down to Kamryn's baptism for her comments including this, "She is so easily touched by the spirit that she is often crying and can't explain why".
This is an abusive mother. And I think Mormonism is a false religion.
But what has this one abusive mother got to do with Mormonism?
In my state, an evangelical Christian couple locked their adopted Russian son in an unheated room and he died of hypothermia.
Do we draw conclusions about evangelicals? Agnostics? Catholics? Jews? Whatever? Because we can find fatally abusive parents in each group.
How dare you make sense in an anti-Mormon freeper gang thread!
I’m sure the little girl does cry all the time and I can pretty easily figure out why she cries and also why she can’t say. Where is the policeman father?
???
The father is a policeman.
It’s in the article you posted. I can’t believe he didn’t have any idea this was going on in his home.
I’m way more concerned that the little boy’s dad is a policeman and allows this behavior in his home than whether or not the mom is a mormon.
If YOU were one of her kids, would YOU have the guts to tattle on mom? Remember, abuse without outward evidence...hot sauce and cold showers!
I ws thinking more of an unguarded moment when one of the children tells a lie and begins to cry in front of the father out of fear of the mother and her hot sauce/cold shower treatment. I imagine those horrors are just the tip of the iceberg too.
I am curious how/why the daughter was taping it? Did the mother know she was being taped? How did it get to Dr Phil?
I have lots of questions and I still can’t believe with that number of children in a supposedly intact loving household the father was oblivious.
It is a sad thing. I personally prefer people to have little quirks and imperfections.
I have some of the same questions. Maybe someone will come along and answer them.
My heart pounded thru this video...tears fell and deep sadness..... Before this adult applied punishment she traumatized him psycologicly this boy, instilling further fear into what was already a young kid very much afraid. Futhermore by asking him countless questions about his behavior he could only search for whatever response he knew would be acceptable without facing further punishment should he give a wrong answer...having prior events as this as was revealed.
Making this child hold hot suace in his mouth...I challenge an adult to try this...see how long your survive the ordeal...without someone asking you further questions in the process. So this becaome psycological trauma along with the physical affects on his body.
The cold shower we find the young fellow screeming in tears...there you have fear, pain and an overload of emotions spilling out..yet the adult continues the questioning. Remarkably the young child answers with exactly what the adult wants to hear.
This child is already damaged....his sense of taste, his body temperature, the sound of her voice, his very senses will have created physical and mental memories which will surface throughout life when triggered by adult events of life. Though at his age now he would have likely disassociated from the physical trauma.
This form of abuse is beyond discribing in how it affects the entire mind, body, and soul. It destroys the spirit in a child...it crushes their very heart. If this were to continue the likely hood might be a split personality....pending the frequency and duration of this abuse. IMO
Hopefully the children have been fast removed from these parents..and that for a very long time.
I watched the Dr. Phil show. The dad knows full well what’s going on, and he’s the one who suggested the cold showers and hot sauce. He just had the mom do his dirty work.
And that’s the really story, IMO.
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