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MYTHS OF THE CRUSADES: Interview with Thomas Madden author of “A Concise History of the Crusades”
The Religion of Conquest ^ | 12/05/10 | Damon

Posted on 12/06/2010 7:04:54 AM PST by damonw

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To: damonw; PIF
As I understand it, when Jerusalem surrendered, two of the conditions were the payment of 200,000 pieces of gold and the "restoration of the holy cross." When the money wasn't paid, 2,700 captives were slaughtered.

This is from Benedict of Peterborough edited by W Stubbs in 1867 vol ii, p 189, ibn-Shaddad, pp 164-5; all as quoted by Philip K. Hitti in "History of the Arabs" revised 10th edition, page 651 published by palgrave macmillan.

21 posted on 12/06/2010 9:18:42 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: I am Richard Brandon

THANK YOU Richard, I’ll take a looksy :)


22 posted on 12/06/2010 9:25:41 AM PST by damonw
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To: Ramonne
I am sure not every crusader who went to war believed in works for salvation. I am sure many believed in faith in Jesus Christ. This is a very slanted catholic article.

Um, the Crusades took place in the Middle Ages -- the Catholic Church was Christianity in Western Europe, the Eastern Orthodox in Eastern Europe. No one then would have imagined anyone would see a conflict or opposition between works and faith.

23 posted on 12/06/2010 9:46:18 AM PST by maryz
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To: Ramonne

You wrote:

“I am sure not every crusader who went to war believed in works for salvation. I am sure many believed in faith in Jesus Christ.”

Actually I am pretty sure that every crusader who went on crusade believed in salvation by grace alone - just as the Catholic Church taught.


24 posted on 12/06/2010 10:45:43 AM PST by vladimir998 (The anti-Catholic will now evade or lie. Watch.)
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To: ansel12

That was a quote from the article. Don’t you get it? Things were different 1000 years ago...


25 posted on 12/06/2010 2:26:40 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: Retain Mike

Geneva Conventions that were written at the end of WW II were actually found by unearthing an appendix to the Code of Hammurabi.


Geneva Conventions appendix goes back to the Uruk period in Sumeria 5000 BC actually... (There is some indicatrion that the Sumerians plagerized them from the Atlantians). Every one knows that Crusaders were well of the Sumerian Code, appendix, Conventions, Geneva.


26 posted on 12/06/2010 2:36:24 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

When the money wasn’t paid, 2,700 captives were slaughtered.


Life was tough in those days...


27 posted on 12/06/2010 2:38:11 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: PIF

You definitely should be teaching college!


28 posted on 12/06/2010 3:00:15 PM PST by Retain Mike
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Things were different 1000 years ago...

I was dealing with the comparison between aerial bombing and killing civilians in masse, deliberately, by hand, after a city is taken.

29 posted on 12/06/2010 3:16:38 PM PST by ansel12
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To: PIF

According to some reports, the king was there to view the fun! What’s not to like?


30 posted on 12/06/2010 6:02:03 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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