Posted on 12/08/2010 9:30:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind
I said nothing whatsoever about Scripture going against my beliefs. I said that Catholics who came of age between 1965 and 1985 were not taught how to defend or explain their doctrine using the Scriptures.
I have been is a room full of Roman Catholics or a mixed group and found the same.
So what! I have no use for any religion; if anyone else does have at it, I care not. With that said...Believe how that Christ died for your sins, was buried, and raised from the dead for our Justification. Believing this you are saved.
And you missed reading my answer, perhaps entirely. The entire basis of the Roman Churh's basis of salvation was a fraud. There WAS nothing left to reform. What was "reformed" was the early and true church of antiquity, the apostolic church described with utter clarity in the Scriptures. When read by elect individuals the truth of salvation in Christ, alone, lept off the pages and ignited a fire not even Rome could extinguish (although they have tried). The Fire, who's origins reached back to the first centuries, once again caused the world to seek not Rome, but Jesus Christ and Him crucified, raised, and ascended to heaven. The truth is now even enticing Rubio and D'Souza.
But, there have always been chosen, real believers rejecting the Roman cult and embracing the truth, little flickers of light in every corner of the dark Roman world. But at the Reformation the return to the truth became a conflagration. Repent, Rome, if you can.
Amen, Brother.
It's pretty obvious that the RC's get upset when someone attends some other church because the preach a different gospel.
It's really rather disingenuous.
It's probably part of the reason they don't understand why Born Again Christians rejoice when a person believes The Gospel and is saved even if in the process they left a Baptist Church and joined a Methodist Church. We share a common faith in our Savior.
It's really rather disingenuous.
I agree. You can't build a fence and claim to be on both sides of it. Being wrong doesn't make them bad, just wrong.
Two things...
1) This is a very misleading headline, and
2) I’m stunned and very pleased that Marco Rubio and Dinesh DSouza are practicing Protestants. I can understand they’re both politicians who don’t want to lose the Roman Catholic vote, but the fact is they worship and financially support Protestant churches.
That’s real progress.
Dinesh D'Souza is a politician? I thought he was an author and Christian apologist.
You are so right..
You wrote:
“I have been in a room full of protestants many times and never heard any arguments concerning doctrine or the Bible.”
I have. Bring up infant baptism to a Baptist and Episcopalian at the same time. Throw in a Presbyterian for good measure.
“I have heard many speak on how God has changed their lives and how His love is so awesome.”
Me too. Then bring up infant baptism, the canon of scripture, the authority of the church, justification, works and grace, birth control, abortion, etc. You’ll see more than just the love of Christ. You’ll see arguing.
“I have been is a room full of Roman Catholics or a mixed group and found the same.”
True enough.
RE: I can understand theyre both politicians who dont want to lose the Roman Catholic vote
Dinesh D’Souza is the President of the Evangelical King’s College in New York City, he isn’t running for office as far as I can tell.
As always, my brother, you are most welcome.
I know a lot of Christians don't want to be involved in disputes about doctrine, but when we get to the foundation of our faith, whether you believe The Gospel as is, or believe there are "ands", "buts", or "maybes" attached it's not a discussion about the color of the stained glass. It is a discussion of what it is to be a Christian.
We see the carry over of this in the discussion about these guys. Instead of joy that they are serious in their faith and are seeking a deeper relationship with Jesus Christ there is anger that it is not in their RCC. The Christians I know rejoice at someone wanting to be in the body of Christ.
I think it's great these two Christians have found their way out of Rome and into the light of Christ.
It sounds to me like he’s attending BOTH Churches. Sadly, he’s not raising his kids Catholic, though he IS attending services as a family with them and his wife. Better than ignoring a religious upbringing entirely.
Since when is being a follower of Christ so offensive to Christians?
They come to real consensus on the central issue — that Jesus Christ sacrificed His life and spilled his blood for us, that we may be saved from hell.
Mere human beings — every one, including every pope who ever lived — are fallible human beings and will misinterpret SOMETHING.
What’s important is that we understand the supreme sacrifice of Christ and what it means to us believers — believers from every Christian denomination, and those who do not claim any denomination.
No one should ever allow RELIGION to separate him or her from Christ.
You wrote:
“They come to real consensus on the central issue that Jesus Christ sacrificed His life and spilled his blood for us, that we may be saved from hell.”
But they did not come to consensus on everything of even close to everything and that very lack of consistancy shows that their doctrine of sola scriptura is unworkable. Also, Catholics too believe that “Jesus Christ sacrificed His life and spilled his blood for us, that we may be saved from hell.” Does that mean that there are now no major differences between Catholics and Protestants? See how easily your argument falls to pieces?
“Mere human beings every one, including every pope who ever lived are fallible human beings and will misinterpret SOMETHING.”
True. But no Catholic claims popes are always right or always infallible. If you say that Obama is the current president of the USA, that is an INFALLIBLE statement. You are infallible when you say it. You are wrong about much else. I don’t think you even come close to understanding papal infallibility.
“Whats important is that we understand the supreme sacrifice of Christ and what it means to us believers believers from every Christian denomination, and those who do not claim any denomination.”
But that’s just it. Christ founded exactly ZERO denominations. ZERO. He founded one Church and it isn’t a Protestant sect.
“No one should ever allow RELIGION to separate him or her from Christ.”
No one should allow his ignorance about religion to separate himself from a correct understanding of Christ or His Church.
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