Posted on 01/10/2011 6:45:01 PM PST by Benchim
I am stunned at the intentional misinterpretation of the Bible to keep you in the bondage of "works'. Christ died on the cross to ATONE for your sin if you believe in Him as the Son of God. You then stand imputed righteous !! There is nothing left to judge. THERE IS NO CONDEMNATION IN CHRIST JESUS. Romans 8:1. You are a joint heir with Christ himself . How could you be tried by Jesus? Look at the main scriptures used by professional Christians to make you do stuff.
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Well now.We are saved or we are not? Which is it?? I go with “saved”. I know the Bible is littered with irreconcilable contradictions (that is why I don’t worship the Bible and consider it secretarial). but I go with John 3:16.
To believe you have to do “works” to be saved is to doubt that Christ died for your sins. Doubting God(not trusting), in itself, is a sin. God’s Grace is a gift to us, nothing we can do to earn it. We aren’t capable.
Is there a judgment for blogpimps?
Amen brother in Christ. At least some get it. I feel sorry for those who don’t. Don’t you?
I think it is a head/heart thing. I don’t read God’s Word trying to analyze and decipher every passage. I’m not smart enough. I let Him speak to my heart. I know that may sound kooky but that’s the way it works for me. Same thing with my praying.
**White Thrown”??
What are you throwing? Footballs? Do you play for the Ducks?
Go Ducks!
As I remember it
Jesus saves but Moses invests
He died to give us the “opportunity” to be saved.
So once you declare your belief, there’s nothing you can do to screw up?
did you read the last portion of my post? Or have you defined security the way you understand it?
According to Paul, if they fall away, there never were of the faith.
So the real problem is, although God (because he operates outside of time) knows who is saved (and not), we do not.
We believe we are saved. If, by our actions, we fall away, we have indeed fooled ourselves.
Note that this does NOT depend our particular “worthyness”, rather it depends on us trusting in our Savior - that IS our security, as long as we persist in our identity in Christ, we will continue in the path.
Will God ever give up on us? NO there IS your eternal security,
Will we ever give up on God? Maybe. This is the problem. Man, not God.
God is not willing that ANY should perish! So the ONLY way to believe this verse is that either God is not omnipotent, or Man has some reckoning in his destination.
(Note that you cannot believe in 5 point Calvinism and believe the above — I do not believe the BIble needs John Calvin correct it)
“You then stand imputed righteous !!”
Is this the same as “deemed”?
3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.
7 Brethren, I write no new commandment to you, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which you heard from the beginning. 8 Again, a new commandment I write to you, which thing is true in Him and in you, because the darkness is passing away, and the true light is already shining. 9 He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness until now. 10 He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him. 11 But he who hates his brother is in darkness and walks in darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes. -- 1 John 2:3-11, NKJV
I read your poorly communicated statements earlier and now having been awakened by a cat and my mind racing as usual, a couple of thoughts flew by.
In regards to works James is the book to read first.
And when we are called by God, given the faith to believe, and accept the gift of salvation, I recall that we are to take up the cross. To me, Jesus calls, I have died for you, and now you can die for me. Death does not necessarily mean martyrdom, but sacrifice of all but life. Fits in quite well with an eye for an eye, a life for a life.
Also, there are many pagan references to living for someone in payment for that someone who saved their life.
So the professional Christians you mock may be trying to get our butts off the couch with threats, but it should be our honor and love for Jesus that inspires us to deny ourselves and live our life for Him.
http://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=76WDLLNX
Well, that is the difference in theology between you and me. You are to have life and more abundant life free of guilt and laws and duties and fear.I understand doing good to please the Father but you don’t have to. James is an anomaly. It contradicts the the sinner Paul who wrote 13 out of 27 books in the new covenant. I have written on this in the Blog so I won’t repeat it but you should chunk James as worthless. It should have been rejected when they editorially compiled the Bible. I’m not a cat person. I do love mu doggie.
There is no fear, no guilt, no duty, but love. The greatest love. All the fruits of the Spirit inspire us to serve even unto death. James grew up watching Jesus. I think he wrote from one point of view, Paul from the educated to the Gentile, and Apollos wrote Hebrews to the Jews. Just my opinion, no facts to substantiate. :)
Interesting. Who was Apollos? It has been my opinion that Hebrews doesn’t fit just right. I agree with “love”.
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