Posted on 01/12/2011 11:32:22 AM PST by Colofornian
Buzz about the 2012 presidential election is already in full swing. But with no real Republican front-runner, really, anyone is game. We’ve been hearing Mitt Romney’s name tossed around as a potential for a while now, but two weeks ago we started hearing another familiar name: Jon Huntsman.
While Huntsman doesn’t have the same national profile as Romney, he has gained status as the ambassador to China and might become more of a threat in the upcoming year. Can you imagine—TWO Mormons (gasp) both running for president?
Now, I understand my next thought doesn’t apply to every Mormon, BUT, I know of a lot of members who vote for politicians based on the fact that they, too, are LDS. And honestly, I know that I’ve been unjustifiably biased toward LDS politicians for the sole reason that we share a religion.
But what if Romney and Huntsman go head to head in 2012? Who will the Mormons vote for?! If their only choice was Romney, I bet a fair number of Mormons wouldn’t really give the other candidates a second thought. But throw Huntsman into the picture and we might actually have to do more research on each candidate’s stances. If they both end up running, it will be interesting to see how members react to the situation over the next two years. Do I sense a hint of BYU vs. Utah-style rivalry in the air?
But doesn’t the Mormon Church now own a fleet of Marriots?
It depends, I’d vote for Mark Levin, Jewish talk show host, in a heartbeat. Now if Al Franken, Jewish talk show host - now senator, were running, absolutely not.
magritte, I’m really sorry that you are so upset. We all know you as a Mormon are going to vote for Romney, it must really bother you that some of us for the reasons I mentioned are not going to be voting for him.
With your typical Mormon attitude, I can only imagine what will transpire if your man Romney gets elected. I can only imagine what kind of discriminatory laws against anti-Mormons he will see gets enacted. Yeah, I’m sure going to run right out and vote for him all right.
This question is disturbing to say the least in that neither Obama nor Rommney are who I would want to see in office. Like asking me to vote for A Muslim supporter and A Cult Member...that’s a not. Both are equally dangerous for our country in my opinion. I’d vote for neither.
Mitt Romney....has resigned from the board of Marriott.
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What a turd (am I allowed to say that ???? I think its a nice description of Romney) of a hypocrite the liberal Mitt Romney is...
Romney also just happen to resign from the same board in time to run for office a few years ago...
and then when he didnt get the GOP nomination for POTUS he joined again...
the thing about the mormon owned Marriott ???
Well that “nicer-than-you” mormon business just happens to have a huge and prosperous industry in their in room pay to watch very adult PORN MOVIES on TV ...
But SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH dont mention it...
Youre a bigot if you do...
;)
Absolutely "beliefs" are a qualifying point and a big one IMO. We are still a Christian Country the last I looked, though that seems to be cetainly debatable in how we conduct ourselfs as a nation now. Regardless though, neither Obama nor Romney pass that test. Both serve another God then the one I know.
They said the same thing about Beck too..and we see where this is going now. You can bet your sweet buns that if Romney gets in the IOUS from the Mormon leadership will have much to do with where he takes this country and he'll have nothing to say about it. Nope...NO TO ROMNEY!
Sorry for your misunderstanding sasportas..I’m a Righteous Gentile, a Noachide...not a Mormon. I was curious to the level of your disdain for other religions when it came to your choices in President. Oh, and I’m a Gingrich supporter as well...hmmmm, he’s Catholic and a follower of Jesus, but I don’t believe in Jesus...how can that be? lol...magritte
With as fast as Obama's taken this country down what makes you think if Romney is elected there'll be an election after his for you to consider? Especially with the G-20 pushing for 'global governance'. You might want to consider that.
Would You Vote for Someone Just Because They’re Mormon?
Nope.
Nope.
(But you'll sustain a Mormon "prophet" just 'cause (a) He's Mormon; and (b) He's the most elderly of the candidates in line?)
I didn't know God was so locked in to birthdates that he had to be so beholden to that!
(Did the Old Testament prophets know about that? And why did many of those OT prophets serve simultaneously as "prophets" -- instead of one at a time?)
Tell us, PD...would you "sustain" a non-Mormon prophet? If not, why not?
Your obsession is so deep it is truly sad.
I sustain the prophet because he is the Lord’s chosen. How he arranges for his chosen to be when and where he needs them isn’t something I am personally privy to.
That has nothing to do with politics.
Dude. Get a grip. Seriously.
Your obsession is so deep it is truly sad.
I sustain the prophet because he is the Lord’s chosen. How he arranges for his chosen to be when and where he needs them isn’t something I am personally privy to.
That has nothing to do with politics.
Dude. Get a grip. Seriously.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
If an impersonal calendar (birthdate) determines who the next "prophet" will be, why does that prophet need either (a) your vote of sustenance; or (b) the Holy Ghost to pinpoint anybody?
It's all pre-determined that Mormon leadership operates by...
...(a) what's on a printed piece of paper -- the calendar -- as to whom becomes a "prophet" next...
...and that (b) certain people get to live with God eternally according to being in good standing with another piece of paper -- a bishop's temple recommend...
...and that (c) others at least get a "get-out-spirit prison" monopoly card because some keen Mormon researchers found some old pieces of paper -- birth and death records...
...doesn't that strike you as being driven by the same thing Nazis were? (Precise records written on pieces of paper??)
I mean, c'mon, PD, even Jesus set the holiest pieces of paper in proper perspective when He said: 39Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. (John 5:39)
It's a relationship, PD, which determines prophets, who lives with the Father eternally, and who avoids hell...not pieces of paper which unveil birthdates, bishops fumbling along as part of a "second fulltime job," and when people were born & died long ago!!!
Don't you see the very ritualism to which you've become attached???...Jesus said even of the papered Scriptures that their purpose is to testify to HIM!!!
Now, are you going to address my other question? Mormons ask us all the time that if God chooses to reveal His Word beyond the book of Revelation, would we embrace it? So I'm asking you, if God chooses to reveal a prophet who isn't Mormon & won't become Mormon, would you sustain him?
Are only Mormon "prophets" worthy of getting sustaining votes from Mormons? Do they have their God so boxed in that God can't choose a "prophet" beyond a Mormon identity & calendar date?
I know you addressed TN on this, but I'd like to also respond.
Let's start with where we agree, hypocrisy:
(1) Mitt Romney is a Mormon; the Deseret News is owned by the Mormon church. Even the DesNews had a problem with Mitt's hypocrisy on this in a July 10, 2007 editorial where it mentioned that Mitt was "...a presidential candidate who has railed against pornography." That same editorial noted: Romney caught a bit of flack last week because he spent nearly 10 years on the Marriott board and yet never tried to reverse the company’s policy of providing pornography on demand, something J.W. “Bill” Marriott Jr., defended in a 2000 letter as being economically important. ...For a presidential candidate who has railed against pornography, this is not entirely insignificant. Even if the subject never came up at a board meeting, one can argue that at least part of the $25,000 plus stock he was paid annually for his board membership came from the money some hotel guests paid for access to the films.
Source: The nasty taint of porn
(2) Also, what you may not realize is that this hypocrisy moves on from Marriott board member Mitt to J.W. "Bill" Marriott, Jr. himself -- Chairman & CEO of Marriott. Wikipedia tells us: Marriott is currently serving as an Area Seventy and is a member of the LDS Church's Sixth Quorum of the Seventy. (See J.W. Marriott, Jr. )
So here we have a corporate procurer of the porn industry, who has ensured that his travel-porn industry rakes in millions of porn $ for both Marriott and the porn industry who supplies them with porn films. (What exactly is all that different between a man who rents a porn film from the adult bookstore & a male traveler who rents a porn film from Marriott & Romney?)
Then Marriott turns around and tithes 10% of his porn profits to the LDS Church??? (Perhaps Marriott could start an "in-room" hooker service as well & donate 10% of its sanctioned whoredom to the Mormon church as well!...I mean if somebody films it while in process that wouldn't be much different than porn movie status, would it not?)
...what exactly is wrong with Marriott offering adult movies to their guests?
"Nothing" -- as long as you support adultery-on-demand!
Are you mad that they offer this SELECTION...
(a) Reference hypocrisy above...(b) Interesting choice of word there -- "selection"...not as bad as pro-aborts calling "abortion" a "choice"...but runs along the same "pro-choice" roots ("pro-selection") & is itself a euphemistic replacement word so that you don't have to describe the content or purpose of the film -- or what the people portrayed in the film are doing so that somebody can have some bedroom enjoyment...I mean, ya wanna explain the difference 'tween someone paying to watch a couple have sex on a TV screen vs. someone paying to watch a couple have sex via see-through mirrors from the room next door?
I’ve stayed in dozens of Marriotts over the years, and they provide every customer an OPTION to turn off said adult movies at the front desk. It’s simply a CHOICE that they offer to their customers who are interested
I "like" how you've bought into the same vocab rhetoric establish by the pro-aborts in the 70s & 80s...simply describe immorality as...
..."pro-choice" decisions...
..."pro-selection" decisions...
..."pro-option" decisions...
So clean...so sterile...no difference, eh, tween the most innocent kids' cartoon & what the porn industry provides, eh?
If enough people aren’t buying it, I imagine they will discontinue the SERVICE.
Ah, so what the porn industry does for America is that they provide a "service" to our country? Well, gee, with your vocabulary, I can't even distinguish between the "service" our military provides for our country and the "service" the whore industry provides to our military & others around the world, eh?
Well, why didn't you just say right up front of your post that you deem the porn industry to be "servants" of America...Then we'd know why you "elected" to export your opinion as an advocate for that industry!
Bottom line: Marriott -- both the corporation and the man -- is no different than any other porn distributor in linking up with the porn producers from CA & Nevada. Marriott is the porn industry; just a smaller "fry." And Romney has been receiving a bit of the economic "trickle up" from its porn sales.
Finally, to try to circle back to where you & I might find some common ground on this issue, can you at least respect the following distinction? 'Tis a huge difference between knowin other folks are time & $ investors in the porn industry...and between knowing your church leaders & political leaders are part of that very industry! (Rakin' in the dough because of it)...
...with all of the free pornography available on the internet nowadays, I imagine their in-room movie sales have decreased precipitously.
Of course, this assumes married men are able to access porn movies in the comfort of their beds @ night...The other reality to think about is that Marriott has been a porn distributor for at least 20-21 years now. No matter what their sales are now, think of what Marriott has accumulated off of the exploited bodies of men & women over that period of time!
I’d take a satanist over Obama in 2012.
***I wouldn’t. That doesn’t mean I’d vote for Obama. I’d write in the proper candidate. Straight republican ticket.
“Tell me, as a pro-lifer would you vote for some who was not and had never been pro-life just because he was the same religion as you ???”
No, I would not.
So true...
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