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Would You Vote for Someone Just Because They're Mormon?
Lds Living ^ | Jan. 10, 2011 | Ashley Evanson

Posted on 01/12/2011 11:32:22 AM PST by Colofornian

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To: greyfoxx39

But doesn’t the Mormon Church now own a fleet of Marriots?


101 posted on 01/12/2011 4:27:49 PM PST by caww
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To: magritte

It depends, I’d vote for Mark Levin, Jewish talk show host, in a heartbeat. Now if Al Franken, Jewish talk show host - now senator, were running, absolutely not.

magritte, I’m really sorry that you are so upset. We all know you as a Mormon are going to vote for Romney, it must really bother you that some of us for the reasons I mentioned are not going to be voting for him.

With your typical Mormon attitude, I can only imagine what will transpire if your man Romney gets elected. I can only imagine what kind of discriminatory laws against anti-Mormons he will see gets enacted. Yeah, I’m sure going to run right out and vote for him all right.


102 posted on 01/12/2011 4:27:56 PM PST by sasportas
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To: stockpirate

This question is disturbing to say the least in that neither Obama nor Rommney are who I would want to see in office. Like asking me to vote for A Muslim supporter and A Cult Member...that’s a not. Both are equally dangerous for our country in my opinion. I’d vote for neither.


103 posted on 01/12/2011 4:32:18 PM PST by caww
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To: greyfoxx39

Mitt Romney....has resigned from the board of Marriott.
____________________________________________

What a turd (am I allowed to say that ???? I think its a nice description of Romney) of a hypocrite the liberal Mitt Romney is...

Romney also just happen to resign from the same board in time to run for office a few years ago...

and then when he didnt get the GOP nomination for POTUS he joined again...

the thing about the mormon owned Marriott ???

Well that “nicer-than-you” mormon business just happens to have a huge and prosperous industry in their in room pay to watch very adult PORN MOVIES on TV ...

But SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH dont mention it...

Youre a bigot if you do...

;)


104 posted on 01/12/2011 4:37:33 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Zakeet
'beliefs are indeed a legitimate issue for determining qualifications for elected public office, and I find that belief in the teachings of Mormonism is more than enough to disqualify an individual from consideration as a viable candidate.'

Absolutely "beliefs" are a qualifying point and a big one IMO. We are still a Christian Country the last I looked, though that seems to be cetainly debatable in how we conduct ourselfs as a nation now. Regardless though, neither Obama nor Romney pass that test. Both serve another God then the one I know.

105 posted on 01/12/2011 4:37:51 PM PST by caww
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To: Notary Sojac
I don't see any evidence that Romney made any attempt to impose Mormon theology anywhere he has been an elected official or a CEO.

They said the same thing about Beck too..and we see where this is going now. You can bet your sweet buns that if Romney gets in the IOUS from the Mormon leadership will have much to do with where he takes this country and he'll have nothing to say about it. Nope...NO TO ROMNEY!

106 posted on 01/12/2011 4:42:19 PM PST by caww
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To: sasportas

Sorry for your misunderstanding sasportas..I’m a Righteous Gentile, a Noachide...not a Mormon. I was curious to the level of your disdain for other religions when it came to your choices in President. Oh, and I’m a Gingrich supporter as well...hmmmm, he’s Catholic and a follower of Jesus, but I don’t believe in Jesus...how can that be? lol...magritte


107 posted on 01/12/2011 4:47:58 PM PST by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: 5thGenTexan
Then I will begin work to come up with a more conservative choice the next primary.

With as fast as Obama's taken this country down what makes you think if Romney is elected there'll be an election after his for you to consider? Especially with the G-20 pushing for 'global governance'. You might want to consider that.

108 posted on 01/12/2011 4:50:17 PM PST by caww
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To: Colofornian

Would You Vote for Someone Just Because They’re Mormon?


Nope.


109 posted on 01/12/2011 6:57:47 PM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender
From the article headline: Would You Vote for Someone Just Because They’re Mormon?

Nope.

(But you'll sustain a Mormon "prophet" just 'cause (a) He's Mormon; and (b) He's the most elderly of the candidates in line?)

I didn't know God was so locked in to birthdates that he had to be so beholden to that!

(Did the Old Testament prophets know about that? And why did many of those OT prophets serve simultaneously as "prophets" -- instead of one at a time?)

Tell us, PD...would you "sustain" a non-Mormon prophet? If not, why not?

110 posted on 01/12/2011 7:13:35 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Your obsession is so deep it is truly sad.

I sustain the prophet because he is the Lord’s chosen. How he arranges for his chosen to be when and where he needs them isn’t something I am personally privy to.

That has nothing to do with politics.

Dude. Get a grip. Seriously.


111 posted on 01/12/2011 7:52:05 PM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Colofornian

Your obsession is so deep it is truly sad.

I sustain the prophet because he is the Lord’s chosen. How he arranges for his chosen to be when and where he needs them isn’t something I am personally privy to.

That has nothing to do with politics.

Dude. Get a grip. Seriously.


112 posted on 01/12/2011 7:56:40 PM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender
Do not make this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

113 posted on 01/12/2011 8:33:44 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Paragon Defender
I sustain the prophet because he is the Lord’s chosen. How he arranges for his chosen to be when and where he needs them isn’t something I am personally privy to.

If an impersonal calendar (birthdate) determines who the next "prophet" will be, why does that prophet need either (a) your vote of sustenance; or (b) the Holy Ghost to pinpoint anybody?

It's all pre-determined that Mormon leadership operates by...
...(a) what's on a printed piece of paper -- the calendar -- as to whom becomes a "prophet" next...
...and that (b) certain people get to live with God eternally according to being in good standing with another piece of paper -- a bishop's temple recommend...
...and that (c) others at least get a "get-out-spirit prison" monopoly card because some keen Mormon researchers found some old pieces of paper -- birth and death records...
...doesn't that strike you as being driven by the same thing Nazis were? (Precise records written on pieces of paper??)

I mean, c'mon, PD, even Jesus set the holiest pieces of paper in proper perspective when He said: 39Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. (John 5:39)

It's a relationship, PD, which determines prophets, who lives with the Father eternally, and who avoids hell...not pieces of paper which unveil birthdates, bishops fumbling along as part of a "second fulltime job," and when people were born & died long ago!!!

Don't you see the very ritualism to which you've become attached???...Jesus said even of the papered Scriptures that their purpose is to testify to HIM!!!

Now, are you going to address my other question? Mormons ask us all the time that if God chooses to reveal His Word beyond the book of Revelation, would we embrace it? So I'm asking you, if God chooses to reveal a prophet who isn't Mormon & won't become Mormon, would you sustain him?

Are only Mormon "prophets" worthy of getting sustaining votes from Mormons? Do they have their God so boxed in that God can't choose a "prophet" beyond a Mormon identity & calendar date?

114 posted on 01/12/2011 9:42:26 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Nut Flush; Tennessee Nana; greyfoxx39; aMorePerfectUnion
...what exactly is wrong with Marriott offering adult movies to their guests? Are you mad that they offer this selection or pointing out the hypocrisy of Mormon Mitt supporting this? If it’s the latter, I’m with you. If it’s the former, I’m not.

I know you addressed TN on this, but I'd like to also respond.

Let's start with where we agree, hypocrisy:

(1) Mitt Romney is a Mormon; the Deseret News is owned by the Mormon church. Even the DesNews had a problem with Mitt's hypocrisy on this in a July 10, 2007 editorial where it mentioned that Mitt was "...a presidential candidate who has railed against pornography." That same editorial noted: Romney caught a bit of flack last week because he spent nearly 10 years on the Marriott board and yet never tried to reverse the company’s policy of providing pornography on demand, something J.W. “Bill” Marriott Jr., defended in a 2000 letter as being economically important. ...For a presidential candidate who has railed against pornography, this is not entirely insignificant. Even if the subject never came up at a board meeting, one can argue that at least part of the $25,000 plus stock he was paid annually for his board membership came from the money some hotel guests paid for access to the films.
Source: The nasty taint of porn

(2) Also, what you may not realize is that this hypocrisy moves on from Marriott board member Mitt to J.W. "Bill" Marriott, Jr. himself -- Chairman & CEO of Marriott. Wikipedia tells us: Marriott is currently serving as an Area Seventy and is a member of the LDS Church's Sixth Quorum of the Seventy. (See J.W. Marriott, Jr. )

So here we have a corporate procurer of the porn industry, who has ensured that his travel-porn industry rakes in millions of porn $ for both Marriott and the porn industry who supplies them with porn films. (What exactly is all that different between a man who rents a porn film from the adult bookstore & a male traveler who rents a porn film from Marriott & Romney?)

Then Marriott turns around and tithes 10% of his porn profits to the LDS Church??? (Perhaps Marriott could start an "in-room" hooker service as well & donate 10% of its sanctioned whoredom to the Mormon church as well!...I mean if somebody films it while in process that wouldn't be much different than porn movie status, would it not?)

...what exactly is wrong with Marriott offering adult movies to their guests?

"Nothing" -- as long as you support adultery-on-demand!

Are you mad that they offer this SELECTION...

(a) Reference hypocrisy above...(b) Interesting choice of word there -- "selection"...not as bad as pro-aborts calling "abortion" a "choice"...but runs along the same "pro-choice" roots ("pro-selection") & is itself a euphemistic replacement word so that you don't have to describe the content or purpose of the film -- or what the people portrayed in the film are doing so that somebody can have some bedroom enjoyment...I mean, ya wanna explain the difference 'tween someone paying to watch a couple have sex on a TV screen vs. someone paying to watch a couple have sex via see-through mirrors from the room next door?

I’ve stayed in dozens of Marriotts over the years, and they provide every customer an OPTION to turn off said adult movies at the front desk. It’s simply a CHOICE that they offer to their customers who are interested

I "like" how you've bought into the same vocab rhetoric establish by the pro-aborts in the 70s & 80s...simply describe immorality as...
..."pro-choice" decisions...
..."pro-selection" decisions...
..."pro-option" decisions...
So clean...so sterile...no difference, eh, tween the most innocent kids' cartoon & what the porn industry provides, eh?

If enough people aren’t buying it, I imagine they will discontinue the SERVICE.

Ah, so what the porn industry does for America is that they provide a "service" to our country? Well, gee, with your vocabulary, I can't even distinguish between the "service" our military provides for our country and the "service" the whore industry provides to our military & others around the world, eh?

Well, why didn't you just say right up front of your post that you deem the porn industry to be "servants" of America...Then we'd know why you "elected" to export your opinion as an advocate for that industry!

Bottom line: Marriott -- both the corporation and the man -- is no different than any other porn distributor in linking up with the porn producers from CA & Nevada. Marriott is the porn industry; just a smaller "fry." And Romney has been receiving a bit of the economic "trickle up" from its porn sales.

Finally, to try to circle back to where you & I might find some common ground on this issue, can you at least respect the following distinction? 'Tis a huge difference between knowin other folks are time & $ investors in the porn industry...and between knowing your church leaders & political leaders are part of that very industry! (Rakin' in the dough because of it)...

...with all of the free pornography available on the internet nowadays, I imagine their in-room movie sales have decreased precipitously.

Of course, this assumes married men are able to access porn movies in the comfort of their beds @ night...The other reality to think about is that Marriott has been a porn distributor for at least 20-21 years now. No matter what their sales are now, think of what Marriott has accumulated off of the exploited bodies of men & women over that period of time!

116 posted on 01/13/2011 12:46:51 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: utherdoul

I’d take a satanist over Obama in 2012.
***I wouldn’t. That doesn’t mean I’d vote for Obama. I’d write in the proper candidate. Straight republican ticket.


118 posted on 01/13/2011 1:57:08 AM PST by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“Tell me, as a pro-lifer would you vote for some who was not and had never been pro-life just because he was the same religion as you ???”

No, I would not.


119 posted on 01/13/2011 3:59:01 AM PST by Texan Tory
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To: Notary Sojac

So true...


120 posted on 01/13/2011 5:35:19 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
NOW someone will chime in about America’s FIRST 911 terrorist killings...

PROOF that I am a PROPHET!

OBEY me!

121 posted on 01/13/2011 5:36:53 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Osage Orange
How about a muslim...not a radical muslim...just a “I got born into this religion” muslim...that was a Conservative?

How about a muslim...not a radical muslim...just a “I got CONVERTED into this religion” muslim...that was a GRANDSON of a long time Indianapolis female Democrat (Julia Carson) that died in office and he was appointed to finish out her term?

Andre Carson


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Carson

122 posted on 01/13/2011 5:40:38 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

The Mormon god is "shifty," too, is he not?



Welcome to MORMONism 101!

While we are waiting to start; enjoy the artwork on our walls.
If some of it seems shifty to you, just look at it real close and it will stop moving,
but another location will then start to crawl on you.

Do NOT think our DOCTRINE is this way!

123 posted on 01/13/2011 5:41:57 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu

Hi there, Resty!

I’ve missed you the last week or so...


124 posted on 01/13/2011 5:43:23 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
 

Unless someone is subscripted to LDS Living or on a private forum that they are not invited too says lot!

Good obsedrvation...




Mormon Missionary Rules

  1. Learn and obey all missionary rules.
  2. Keep your thoughts, words, and actions in harmony with the gospel message.
  3. Read only books, magazines, and other material authorized by the Church.
  4. Don't debate or argue.
  5. Center your mind on your mission.
  6. Dress conservatively. Elders: white shirts, conservative ties, and business suits. Sisters: conservative colors and skirts that cover your knees.  No floor-length skirts or dresses.
  7. Cut your hair regularly.
  8. Keep your hair clean and neatly combed at all times in the approved style.
  9. Be neat and clean.
  10. Bathe frequently.
  11. Use deodorant.
  12. Polish your shoes.
  13. Iron your shirt and business suit.
  14. Arise at 6:30 A.M.
  15. Study for 2 hours every morning.
  16. Proselytize for 10 hours between 9:30 A.M. and 9:30 P.M.
  17. Turn off your lights at 10:30 P.M.
  18. Exercise regularly.
  19. Write in your journal regularly.
  20. Follow the "Missionary Gospel Study Program" (31157) for your personal study.
  21. Regularly study the Missionary Guide and the Discussions.
  22. Attend Sunday priesthood or Relief Society meetings, Sunday School, and sacrament meeting.
  23. Attend the general session of Stake Conference.
  24. Attend general conference broadcasts if available.
  25. Avoid all other church meetings unless you have a special assignment or are brining an investigator.
  26. Proselytize as much as possible on weekends and holidays because this is when you'll find people home.
  27. End your preparation day at 6:00 P.M. and proselytize from 6:00 P.M. to 9:30 P.M.
  28. Wear your missionary uniform in public on preparation day while not engaged in recreational activities.
  29. Arise at 6:30 on preparation day and study for 2 hours from the approved books.
  30. Take care of your physical preparation for the week on preparation day: wash your clothes, clean your apartment, wash your car, get your haircut, and shop for groceries.
  31. Write to your parents every week on preparation day.
  32. Write less frequently to your siblings, friends, and acquaintances.
  33. Don't communicate with any friends or acquaintances that are within or close to your mission boundaries, except as a part of official mission business.
  34. Plan safe, wholesome, and uplifting activities for preparation day.
  35. Stay with your companion during all activities.
  36. Do not go on road trips.
  37. Do not leave your assigned area without permission ("District leaders must approve travel outside your area within the district; zone leaders must approve travel outside your district within the zone; and the mission president must approve travel outside the zone.")
  38. Do not watch television.
  39. Do not view unauthorized videocassettes.
  40. Do not listen to the radio.
  41. Do not listen to unauthorized audiocassettes or CD’s.
  42. Do not participate in musical groups.
  43. Do not participate in athletic teams.
  44. Do not sponsor athletic teams.
  45. Do not engage in contact sports.
  46. Do not engage in water sports.
  47. Do not engage in winter sports.
  48. Do not engage in motorcycling.
  49. Do not engage in horseback riding.
  50. Do not engage in mountain climbing.
  51. Do not embark on a private boat.
  52. Do not embark in a private airplane.
  53. Do not handle firearms.
  54. Do not handle explosives.
  55. Do not swim.
  56. Do not play full court basketball.
  57. Do not play basketball in leagues.
  58. Do not play basketball in tournaments.
  59. You may play half-court basketball.
  60. Never be alone.
  61. Seek advice from your mission president if your companion is "having difficulties".
  62. Be loyal to your companion.
  63. Ask your mission president for help if your companion doesn’t obey the rules.
  64. Pray with your companion every day.
  65. Study with your companion every day.
  66. Plan your work with your companion every day.
  67. Take time at least once a week for companionship inventory.
  68. Seek to be one in spirit and purpose and help each other succeed.
  69. Always address your companion as Elder or Sister.
  70. Sleep in the same bedroom as your companion.
  71. Do not sleep in the same bed as your companion.
  72. Do not arise before your companion.
  73. Do not retire after your companion. (apparently, being together is more important than getting the correct amount of sleep that your unique body requires.)
  74. Frequently study with your companion the Missionary Guide section on companions.
  75. Never be alone with anyone of the opposite sex.
  76. Never associate inappropriately with anyone of the opposite sex (conversely, they don't mention whether or not it is against the rules to associate inappropriately with anyone of the same sex).
  77. Do not flirt.
  78. Do not date.
  79. Do not communicate via phone or letter with anyone of the opposite sex living within or near mission boundaries.
  80. Do not visit a single or divorced person of the opposite sex unless accompanied by a couple or another adult member of your sex.
  81. Try to teach single investigators in a member’s home or have missionaries of the same sex teach them.
  82. Always follow the above rules, even if the situation seems harmless.
  83. Use the commitment pattern to get referrals from members.
  84. Keep your dinner visits with member briefs and during the customary dinner hour in the area.
  85. Remember to say thank you to those who feed you.
  86. Visit members and nonmembers only at appropriate times.
  87. Do not counsel or give medical treatment.
  88. Do not stay in the homes of people when they are on vacation.
  89. Only write letters to family members and friends at home.
  90. Do not telephone parents (in some areas, the mission president will make an exception to this rule and will allow 2 phone calls per year: one on Christmas and one on Mother's day.  But the actual rule in the handbook does not give any exceptions.  In my mission, the mission president affirmed that the rule in the handbook is unambiguous: Don't telephone your parents, no exceptions).
  91. Do not telephone relatives.
  92. Do not telephone friends.
  93. Do not telephone girlfriends.
  94. Contact your mission president in case of an emergency.
  95. Take problems and questions to your mission president.
  96. Do not write to the President of the Church or to other General Authorities. Letters from missionaries to General Authorities are referred back to the mission president (There are no checks, balances, or appeals when it comes to the authority of the mission president).
  97. Respect the customs, traditions, and property of the people who you are trying to convert (I have to wonder, isn't it intrinsically disrespectful to their customs and traditions when your purpose for engaging them is to convert them from their customs and traditions and to yours?)
  98. Obey all mission rules.
  99. Obey the laws of the land.
  100. Do not get involved in politics.
  101. Do not get involved in commercial activities.
  102. Do not give any information about the area.
  103. Respect the customs and cultures of those who you are trying to convert to your own customs and culture.
  104. Respect the beliefs, practices, and sites of other religions.
  105. Do not say or write anything bad about the political and cultural circumstances where you serve.
  106. Do not become involved in adoption proceedings.
  107. Do not suggest or encourage emigration. (This rule is a bit ironic, given the now-defunct doctrine of gathering the believers to Zion)
  108. Be courteous.
  109. Provide community service.
  110. Do not provide community service that isn’t approved by your mission president.
  111. Do not provide more than 4 hours a week of community service.
  112. Do not provide community service during the evening, weekend or holidays—those are peek proselytizing times.
  113. Your mission president must approve your housing.
  114. Keep your housing unit clean.
  115. Do not live with single or divorced people of the opposite sex.
  116. Do not live where the spouse is frequently absent.
  117. Your living unit must have a private bath and entrance.
  118. You may occasionally fast for a special reason, but generally the monthly fast is sufficient.
  119. Do not fast longer than 24 hours at a time.
  120. Do not ask friends, relatives, and members to join in special fasts for investigators. (I wonder if this is because prayer and fasting doesn't cause strangers to convert and consequently proves to be a faith-demoting experience).
  121. Maintain your health.
  122. Eat a healthy diet.
  123. Sleep from 10:30 to 6:30.
  124. Follow the approved exercise program.
  125. Keep your body, clothes, dishes, linens, towels and housing unit clean.
  126. Dispose of your garbage properly and promptly.
  127. Follow the safety rules for all of your stuff.
  128. Seek medical care if you are in an accident or become sick.
  129. Be immunized.
  130. Spend your money only on things relating to your mission.
  131. Budget your money carefully.
  132. Keep a record of what you spend.
  133. Do not spend more than your companion.
  134. Do not loan money.
  135. Do not borrow money.
  136. Keep a reserve fund of $50 to $100 at all times for transfers.
  137. Pay your bills before leaving an area.
  138. Pay cash for all resale literature and supplies ordered from the mission office.
  139. Do not waste money on souvenirs.
  140. Do not waste money on unnecessary items.
  141. Be a frugal photographer.
  142. Do not accumulate excess baggage.
  143. Obey custom laws and regulations.
  144. Pay fast offerings each fast Sunday to the bishop or branch president where you serve.
  145. Pay tithing on outside sources of income (i.e. interest) to your home bishop or branch president.
  146. Evaluate your funds a few months before the end of your mission. If you have more than you need, ask that less be sent so that you can return home without excess money.
  147. Do not drive without a license.
  148. Drive only Church-owned vehicles.
  149. Do not drive members’ cars.
  150. Do not drive nonmembers’ cars.
  151. Do not give rides to members or investigators in Church-owned cars.  (A few investigators have asked me why the missionaries are reluctant to offer them a ride to church.  The answer: giving rides is against the rules).
  152. Use cars only on approved mission business.
  153. Use cars only within the assigned geographical area.
  154. Be conscious of safety at all times.
  155. Drive defensively.
  156. Wear your seat belt.
  157. Pray for the Lord’s protection while driving. 
  158. If your companion is driving, assist him or her.
  159. Do not tamper with the vehicles odometer.
  160. Know bicycle safety rules.
  161. Use extreme caution on your bicycle.
  162. Do not ride your bicycle after dark.
  163. Do not ride your bicycle in heavy traffic.
  164. Do not ride your bicycle in adverse weather conditions.
  165. Go directly to your new area when transferred.
  166. Find your new companion without delay when transferred.
  167. Have a maximum of two suitcases and a briefcase.


Conclusion:

The Mormon Scriptures teach that the purpose of life is a test to see if we will do everything that God commands us to (Abraham 3:25).  Once we get pretty advanced in the game God might push the envelope on this and command us to do something totally bizarre and immoral such as killing our children (Genesis 22:2), but most of us never reach that level.

The Mormon missionary is given innumerable opportunities every day to show God that he will obeyThe missionary's life is defined by rules.  The rules dictate who he will be with, what he does with each hour of the week, which books he may read, and that he won't receive information about the world through radio, TV, newspapers, magazines, or the Internet.  And he is assigned a vigilante to follow him around 24-7 to make sure he obeys.  A church video about missionary life has a scene depicting a missionary reading the newspaper.  That missionary was breaking the rules.

Last night, my wife saw me reading the Missionary Guide.  It brought back all sorts of nasty memories from her mission and she said I must be a masochist for reading it.  I laughed at that, but now I'm wondering if she had a point--just thinking about the mission rules is painful to me.  As a missionary, I felt that the mission, God's church, and ultimately God himself despised individuality and freedom.  My efforts to obey the mission rules resulted in immeasurable amounts of emotional and physical pain.  I have had Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis since I was a child, and it was impossible to take care of my body and obey the missionary rules.  So, I tortured my body throughout my mission, and abused it to the point where I literally couldn't stand, much less walk.

The mission rules caused my body permanent damage, and did serious damage to my emotional health--I've been home for over 10 years and apparently I still haven't completely recovered.

The above are the rules from The Missionary Handbook (commonly known as the "White Bible").  It is a little booklet that the missionaries carry in their shirt pocket.  There are many rules the missionary is subjected to that aren't in the White Bible, but these are the basics. I am frequently asked if I am serious about these rules.  The answer is yes.  A few parenthetical comments have been added.

As you think about these rules, it is worth also considering psychologist Steven Hassan's BITE model.  Hassan asserts that if a group passes a certain threshold of manipulating its members behaviors, thoughts, emotions, and access to information, the group is rightly categorized as a cult and is exercising destructive mind control.  You can read about his model here.  You may decide for yourself if such manipulation exists, if it is harmful, and whether or not the Mormon missionary experience is a good example of this phenomenon.  Here is a site that brings the BITE model to bear on the Mormon missionary program.

 



(From --> http://www.lds4u.com/Missionaries/rules.htm )

125 posted on 01/13/2011 5:44:52 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

I believe, if I'm not mistaken, that the temple oaths to which you are referencing here were removed by the Lds "prophet" around 1926 or 1927. Mitt Romney was born in 1948.

 Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriages,

which laws have been pronounced constitutional by the court of last resort,
I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws,
and to use my influence with the members of the Church
over which I preside to have them do likewise.
 
Wilford Woodruff

President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
 
September 24th, 1890

126 posted on 01/13/2011 5:46:31 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Utah Binger
Southern Utah where tired old geezers go to get warm.

I've BEEN on your porch, you TOG!

127 posted on 01/13/2011 5:47:54 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Texan Tory
Yes, most Mormons are pro-life, even if there are not any Mormon politicians currently taking a strong position on the issue.

Whoo!

I thought I read pro-WIFE!

128 posted on 01/13/2011 5:49:13 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stockpirate
Not to worry I'm wearing my flame proof undies.

Speakin' of undies...


 

 
 
 
 
Temple Recommend Questions



1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

       Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
       Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

129 posted on 01/13/2011 5:51:48 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
I never understood why so many Utah Mormons were ga-ga over the Mittster.

But; YOU are a UTAH Mormon - haven't you discussed this with friends, neighbors, fellow stake people?

130 posted on 01/13/2011 5:54:02 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Williard Mitt Romney is an unrepentant ghoul with the blood of millions of innocent unborn babies on his hands..

You mean them SPIRIT BABIES that never got a chance to exist in HUMAN FORM?


Question:Do they get recycled?

131 posted on 01/13/2011 5:56:15 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sasportas
Mormons believe in one of the biggest liars and shysters in the history of this country, Joe Smith. In Mormon doctrine, everything from the golden plates, Lamanites, etc. who supposedly inhabited this country - of which there is not a shred of evidence for, God the Father a man from the planet Kolob, and they are in the process of becoming God themselves, and a hundred more lies of which anybody with an ounce of discernment should know is utterly false.

Uh....

maybe not.

After all, gthey threw their GOD under the bus by tossing out what HE COMMANDED them to do in D&C 132 about POLYGAMY, so why should ANY of D&C 132 still be up for play?

132 posted on 01/13/2011 5:59:55 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sasportas
 

Muslims have beliefs that are very similar to Mormonism.

Both are based on a lying false prophet, both have substituted their false prophets books for the Bible. 

 
They DO???


In the heat of the Missouri “Mormon War” of 1838, Joseph Smith made the following claim,

    “I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was ‘the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword.’ So shall it eventually be with us—‘Joseph Smith or the Sword!’ ”[1]

It is most interesting that a self-proclaimed Christian prophet would liken himself to Mohammed, the founder of Islam. His own comparison invites us to take a closer look as well. And when we do, we find some striking—and troubling—parallels. Consider the following.

    · Mohammed and Joseph Smith both had humble beginnings. Neither had formal religious connections or upbringing, and both were relatively uneducated. Both founded new religions by creating their own scriptures. In fact, followers of both prophets claim these scriptures are miracles since their authors were the most simple and uneducated of men.[2]

    · Both prophets claim of having angel visitations, and of receiving divine revelation to restore pure religion to the earth again. Mohammed was told that both Jews and Christians had long since corrupted their scriptures and religion. In like manner, Joseph Smith was told that all of Christianity had become corrupt, and that consequently the Bible itself was no longer reliable. In both cases, this corruption required a complete restoration of both scripture and religion. Nothing which preceded either prophet could be relied upon any longer. Both prophets claim they were used of God to restore eternal truths which once existed on earth, but had been lost due to human corruption.

    · Both prophets created new scripture which borrowed heavily from the Bible, but with a substantially new “spin.” In his Koran, Mohammed appropriates a number of Biblical themes and characters—but he changes the complete sense of many passages, claiming to “correct” the Bible. In so doing he changes many doctrines, introducing his own in their place. In like manner, Joseph Smith created the Book of Mormon, much of which is plagiarized directly from the King James Bible. Interestingly, the Book of Mormon claims that this same Bible has been substantially corrupted and is therefore unreliable. In addition, Joseph Smith went so far as to actually create his own version of the Bible itself, the “Inspired Version,” in which he both adds and deletes significant portions of text, claiming he is “correcting” it. In so doing he also changes many doctrines, introducing his own in their place.

    · As a part of their new scriptural “spin,” both prophets saw themselves as prophesied in scripture, and both saw themselves as a continuation of a long line of Biblical prophets. Mohammed saw himself as a continuation of the ministry of Moses and Jesus. Joseph Smith saw himself as a successor to Enoch, Melchizedek, Joseph and Moses. Joseph Smith actually wrote himself into his own version of the Bible—by name.

    · Both prophets held up their own scripture as superior to the Bible. Mohammed claimed that the Koran was a perfect copy of the original which was in heaven. The Koran is therefore held to be absolutely perfect, far superior to the Bible and superceding it. In like manner, Joseph Smith also made the following claim. “I told the Brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding its precepts, than by any other book.”[3]

    · Despite their claim that the Bible was corrupt, both prophets admonished their followers to adhere to its teachings. An obvious contradiction, this led to selective acceptance of some portions and wholesale rejection of others. As a result, the Bible is accepted by both groups of followers only to the extent that it agrees with their prophet’s own superior revelation.

    · Both Mohammed and Joseph Smith taught that true salvation was to be found only in their respective religions. Those who would not accept their message were considered “infidels,” pagans or Gentiles. In so doing, both prophets became the enemy of genuine Christianity, and have led many people away from the Christ of the Bible.

    · Both prophets encountered fierce opposition to their new religions and had to flee from town to town because of threats on their lives. Both retaliated to this opposition by forming their own militias. Both ultimately set up their own towns as model societies.

    · Both Mohammed and Joseph Smith left unclear instructions about their successors. The majority of Mohammed’s followers, Sunni Muslims, believe they were to elect their new leader, whereas the minority, Shiite Muslims, believe Mohammed’s son was to be their next leader. Similarly, the majority of Joseph Smith’s followers, Mormons, believed their next prophet should have been the existing leader of their quorum of twelve apostles, whereas the minority, RLDS, believed Joseph Smith’s own son should have been their next prophet. Differences on this issue, and many others, have created substantial tension between these rival groups of each prophet.

    · Mohammed taught that Jesus was just another of a long line of human prophets, of which he was the last. He taught that he was superior to Christ and superceded Him. In comparison, Joseph Smith also made the following claim.

      “I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him, but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.”[4]


 

Endnotes

[1] Joseph Smith made this statement at the conclusion of a speech in the public square at Far West, Missouri on October 14, 1838. This particular quote is documented in Fawn M. Brodie, No Man Knows My History, second edition, (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1971), p. 230–231. Fawn Brodie’s footnote regarding this speech contains valuable information, and follows. “Except where noted, all the details of this chapter [16] are taken from the History of the [Mormon] Church. This speech, however, was not recorded there, and the report given here is based upon the accounts of seven men. See the affidavits of T.B. Marsh, Orson Hyde, George M. Hinkle, John Corrill, W.W. Phelps, Samson Avard, and Reed Peck in Correspondence, Orders, etc., pp. 57–9, 97–129. The Marsh and Hyde account, which was made on October 24, is particularly important. Part of it was reproduced in History of the [Mormon] Church, Vol. III, p. 167. See also the Peck manuscript, p. 80. Joseph himself barely mentioned the speech in his history; see Vol. III, p. 162.”


133 posted on 01/13/2011 6:10:37 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

I’ll say it again because you don’t seem to be understanding. Do you want to understand?

I sustain the prophet because he is the Lord’s chosen. How he arranges for his chosen to be when and where he needs them isn’t something I am personally privy to.

The rest of your “piece of paper” comments are silly. It’s not a piece of paper that is important. It’s what that piece of paper signifies and/or represents.

Nazi’s? Now you jumped the shark. Your obsession is moving into the bizarre.

Don’t you see that you focus on the wrong things? You let yourself be led after the wrong things. Trivial things get twisted and obsessed over for you.


Your other question is a nonsensical hypothetical game along the lines of “If God created an immovable object could he then move it”? I’ll not play your time-wasting game any more than I already have.

I’ll say this again too because you really need to listen. Dude, get a grip. Seriously.


134 posted on 01/13/2011 6:18:12 AM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: sasportas
 

Muslims have beliefs that are very similar to Mormonism.

 They DO???



 Why... you'll soon be telling us that they get all chummy with them as well!

 

 

Neal A. Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship Mission Statement

The Neal A. Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship exists to:
  • Describe and defend the Restoration through highest quality scholarship
  • Provide critically edited, primary resources (ancient religious texts) to scholars and laypersons around the world
  • Build bridges of understanding and goodwill to Muslim scholars by providing superior editions of primary texts
  • Provide an anchor of faith in a sea of LDS Studies

 

135 posted on 01/13/2011 6:20:21 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Religion Moderator

I don’t know what I did that made it personal. I’ll not do it again if I know.


136 posted on 01/13/2011 6:22:17 AM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender
The following was making the thread "about" another Freeper:

Your obsession is so deep it is truly sad.


137 posted on 01/13/2011 6:23:55 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: magritte
I’m a Righteous Gentile

HMmm...

Is that anything like pretty ugly?
Military Intelligence?
Mormon Archeology?

139 posted on 01/13/2011 6:33:42 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paragon Defender
 
I sustain the prophet because he is the Lord’s chosen.
 
Oh?
I'd guess that MORMONs are AFRAID to do anything BUT 'sustain the Prophet'!



"Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes whether actively or otherwise, any plan or doctrine advocated by the prophets, seers, revelators' of the church, is cultivating the spirit of apostasy. One cannot speak evil of the lord's anointed... and retain the holy spirit in his heart. This sort of game is Satan's favorite pastime, and he has practiced it to believing souls since Adam. He {Satan} wins a great victory when he can get members of the church to speak against their leaders and to do their own thinking."

 "When our leaders speak, the thinking has been done. When they propose a plan--it is God's Plan. When they point the way, there is no other which is safe. When they give directions, it should mark the end of controversy, God works in no other way. To think otherwise, without immediate repentance, may cost one his faith, may destroy his testimony, and leave him a stranger to the kingdom of God."

Ward Teachers Message, Deseret News, Church Section p. 5, May 26, 1945
Also included in the Improvement Era, June 1945 (which was the official church magazine before the Ensign)


"Always keep your eye on the President of the church, and if he ever tells you to do anything, even if it is wrong, and you do it, the lord will bless you for it but you don't need to worry. The lord will never let his mouthpiece lead the people astray."

LDS President Marion G. Romney  (of the first presidency), quoting LDS President (and prophet) Heber J. Grant "Conference Report" Oct. 1960 p. 78


"The Lord Almighty leads this Church, and he will never suffer you to be led astray if you are found doing your duty. You may go home and sleep as sweetly as a babe in its mother's arms, as to any danger of your leaders leading you astray, for if they should try to do so the Lord would quickly sweep them from the earth."

Brigham Young,  Journal of Discourses, Vol. 9, p. 289, 1862.


 
"When the Prophet speaks the debate is over".

--N. Eldon Tanner,  in August Ensign 1979, pages 2-3


"I sat in this tabernacle some years ago as President Joseph Fielding Smith stood at this pulpit. It was the general priesthood meeting of April 1972, the last general conference before President Smith passed away. He said: 'There is one thing which we should have exceedingly clear in our minds. Neither the President of the Church, nor the First Presidency, or the united voice of the First Presidency and the Twelve will ever lead the Saints astray or send forth counsel to the world that is contrary to the mind and will of the lord'."

L. Aldin Porter   of the Presidency of the First Quorum of Seventies (Ensign, Nov. 1994, p. 63)


"Follow your leaders who have been duly ordained and have been publicly sustained, and you will not be led astray."

Boyd K. Packer   (General Conference, Oct. 1992; Ensign, Nov. 1992)


"The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray."

President Wilford Woodruff   (considered scripture as it is canonized at the end of the D&C)



140 posted on 01/13/2011 6:36:19 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paragon Defender

Do not make this thread “about” individual Freepers.

THAT was quick!


141 posted on 01/13/2011 6:37:14 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

The Seven Laws of Noah form the major part of the Noahide Laws or Noachide Code. This code is a set of moral imperatives that, according to the Talmud, were given by God as a binding set of laws for the children of Noah - that is, all of mankind.

According to Judaism any non-Jew who lives according to these laws is regarded as a Righteous Gentile and is assured of a place in the world to come (Olam Haba), the final reward of the righteous.

Adherents are often called “B’nei Noach” (Children of Noah) or “Noahides” and may often network in Jewish synagogues.

The seven laws listed by the Tosefta and the Talmud are

1.Prohibition of Idolatry
2.Prohibition of Murder
3.Prohibition of Theft
4.Prohibition of Sexual immorality
5.Prohibition of Blasphemy
6.Prohibition of eating flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive
7.Establishment of law courts

The Noahide Laws comprise the six laws which were given to Adam in the Garden of Eden according to the Talmud’s interpretation of Gen 2:16 and a seventh one, which was added after the Flood of Noah.


142 posted on 01/13/2011 6:39:19 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Nut Flush
That said, with all of the free pornography available on the internet nowadays, I imagine their in-room movie sales have decreased precipitously.

Yup...

...with all of the free LDS informastion available on the internet nowadays, I imagine their Investigator results are WAY down as well!

143 posted on 01/13/2011 6:39:24 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

Let's start with where we agree, hypocrisy:

Speaking of HYPOCRITES...
 

 New President Thomas S. Monson, is the highest ranking official in The Mormon Church.


Left Back Row: Elder Richard G. Scott (1988) * Elder Robert D. Hales (1994)  Elder Jeffrey R. Holland (1994) * President Henry B. Eyring (1995) Second Counselor, First Presidency since 2007  Elder Dieter F. Uchtdorf (2004) Newly called Second Counsel

WHY won't these LOVING and CARING men reach out to the people who actually follow MORMON scripture (D&C 132) and ALLOW them to be called MORMON?

 

Since the SLC hierarchy is afraid of the Government and NOT of GOD, THEY should be the ones who CANNOT be called MORMONs: NOT the FUNDAMENTALISTs!


144 posted on 01/13/2011 6:40:29 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paragon Defender
It’s not a piece of paper that is important. It’s what that piece of paper signifies and/or represents.
 
Not according to JOE!!!



 
A FACSIMILE FROM
THE BOOK OF ABRAHAM

No. 1
 
Facsimile No. 1
EXPLANATION
Fig. 1. The Angel of the Lord.
Fig. 2. Abraham fastened upon an altar.
Fig. 3. The idolatrous priest of Elkenah attempting to offer up Abraham as a sacrifice.
Fig. 4. The altar for sacrifice by the idolatrous priests, standing before the gods of Elkenah, Libnah, Mahmackrah, Korash, and Pharaoh.
Fig. 5. The idolatrous god of Elkenah.
Fig. 6. The idolatrous god of Libnah.
Fig. 7. The idolatrous god of Mahmackrah.
Fig. 8. The idolatrous god of Korash.
Fig. 9. The idolatrous god of Pharaoh.
Fig. 10. Abraham in Egypt.
Fig. 11. Designed to represent the pillars of heaven, as understood by the Egyptians.
Fig. 12. Raukeeyang, signifying expanse, or the firmament over our heads; but in this case, in relation to this subject, the Egyptians meant it to signify Shaumau, to be high, or the heavens, answering to the Hebrew word, Shaumahyeem.
 

145 posted on 01/13/2011 6:44:18 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paragon Defender
 

I sustain the prophet because he is the Lord’s chosen. How he arranges for his chosen to be when and where he needs them isn’t something I am personally privy to.



 

Words of Our Living Prophets In addition to these four books of scripture, the inspired words of our living prophets become scripture to us. Their words come to us through conferences, the Liahona or Ensign magazine, and instructions to local priesthood leaders. “We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God” (Articles of Faith 1:9).

 
 



In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.


1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)


146 posted on 01/13/2011 6:47:05 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paragon Defender
 

I don’t know what I did that made it personal. I’ll not do it again if I know.


 

147 posted on 01/13/2011 6:50:09 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Thanks for the new tagline.

Sorry, I’ve been off the air quite a bit lately. I shouldn’t have to be still meeting a bottom line every month but this Lib Democrat economy is killing all the good action we used to get.

It is now worse than 1980(Carter) and 1989 (Earthquake in Calif) combined.

We need to start on the south twenty development with a better road, a retaining wall, utilities and new signage.
Bankers look at you like you’re crazy so we’ll have to do private money which is hard money.

HOPE and CHANGE is killing tourism and small business.
Romney wouldn’t be my choice, however I know several really strong apostates that would be ideal! They’re all too smart to be politicians though.


149 posted on 01/13/2011 6:53:15 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah whereTOGS go to get warm. Thanks Al! Global Warming is turned off.)
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To: Elsie
 
 
 

Style Guide - The Name of the Church

The official name of the Church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This full name was given by revelation from God to Joseph Smith in 1838.

While the term "Mormon Church" has long been publicly applied to the Church as a nickname, it is not an authorized title, and the Church discourages its use.

When writing about the Church, please follow these guidelines:

  • In the first reference, the full name of the Church is preferred: "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints".
  • Please avoid the use of "Mormon Church", "LDS Church" or the "Church of the Latter-day Saints".
  • When a shortened reference is needed, the terms "the Church" or "the Church of Jesus Christ" are encouraged.
  • When referring to Church members, the term "Latter-day Saints" is preferred, though "Mormons" is acceptable.
  • "Mormon" is correctly used in proper names such as the Book of Mormon, Mormon Tabernacle Choir or Mormon Trail, or when used as an adjective in such expressions as "Mormon pioneers."
  • The term "Mormonism" is acceptable in describing the combination of doctrine, culture and lifestyle unique to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
  • When referring to people or organizations that practice polygamy, the terms "Mormons," "Mormon fundamentalist," "Mormon dissidents," etc. are incorrect. The Associated Press Stylebook notes: "The term Mormon is not properly applied to the other ... churches that resulted from the split after [Joseph] Smith's death."

http://beta-newsroom.lds.org/article/use-of-the-word-mormon-in-news-reports

150 posted on 01/13/2011 6:56:15 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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