Posted on 01/15/2011 5:54:01 PM PST by Benchim
And this [salvation] is not of yourselves [of your own doing, it came not through your own striving], but it is the gift of God;(Ephesians 8)Christ himself says this in Mark 3:28. Do you think he meant it? 28'I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them." Notice the future tense. At the time he spoke these words, all men were condemned by imputed sin of Adam just as they are now but not condemned by imputed righteous for those who accept HIM. He is reported again as saying the same thing in Matthew. Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 12:31 Blasphemy is a level of absolute belief in the reality of God and a rejection of Him in fact. And what is the condition for this absolute forgiveness? And what must we do to reach "imputed righteousness"? Very simple. John 3:16
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You must be reading an abridged Bible.
No, I was not saying keeping the commandments had anything to do with anyone’s salvation, I was saying it as a example of what other’s would say to those who counter those who believe in a Grace based salvation ; in which ? is the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, and not the “ OTHER “ Gospel that others are preaching .
wow. That is perfect.
**Paul, as a figure of speech is saying, that, “ leaving “ not that we should totally forget the first principles of the doctrines of Christ “ meaning, we should move onto maturity, we will never achieve “ Perfection “ in this human state and earthly life until we meet him.**
That’s correct. Although my point in mentioning that passage was that Paul was alluding once again (this time in the epistle to the Hebrews) to the faithful obedience to the ‘doctrine of baptisms’ etc., that God ordained for their rebirth.
Also, since I realize your view of Grace as being ‘God did it all, we do nothing to be saved’, and that acknowledging this is called ‘faith’. But, God DID speak words of instruction (faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God).
Some agree that going to hear a preacher is a must (some physical effort required there).
Some agree that repentance is necessary. That’s a work.
Some agree that water baptism is a God ordained command.
The thing that needs to be clarified is, what is the definition of ‘faith in Jesus Christ’? Many profess faith in Him, but don’t follow his (and his apostles) commands for rebirth. These same people regard those orders as ‘our own works’, and that people that follow those orders are trying to add to the Word, or ‘earn’ their salvation by ‘man-made ordinances’. Is ‘faith’ really faith when the hearer discounts or completely disregards the Lord’s, and his thoroughly taught apostles’ commands for rebirth?
Another question: Acts 2:38; is it from heaven, or of men?
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