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Robert L. Millet The Most Correct Book...(Morm/LDS Video)
Sperry Symposium ^ | 2007 | Robert L. Millet

Posted on 01/16/2011 5:57:32 AM PST by restornu

The Most Correct Book: Joseph Smith's Appraisal of the Book of Mormon

Robert L. Millet; he who is built upon the rock will we receive this work with gladness.

Much has been said and demeaning about bro Millet

...separating the wheat from the chatter of the tears!

I could not leave without leaving these words of bro Millet

Understand the words such as precepts, the word “most correct’ and how it was used in the 1800's, things of God are only known by the power and spirit of God, the truthfulness and much much more...

Most importantly again he who is built upon the rock receive this work with gladness

The Book of Mormon was met for the children of today and the thing of most worth was preserved.

The Book of Mormon is not on trial it is the people and the members of today and how they treat and what they do with the Book of Mormon.


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To: restornu

Is this vanity your Opus, Resty ???


21 posted on 01/16/2011 11:41:51 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

do you know why you see little evidence of the cross before the 4th century??? the Church was underground for the most part and didn’t have the opportunity to openly dsiplay their faith, if they did, it could nean their life!


22 posted on 01/16/2011 11:51:36 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: restornu
 

Robert L. Millet; he who is built upon the rock will we receive this work with gladness.

Much has been said and demeaning about bro Millet

 
 
 
Not by ME!
 
I let the man SPEAK FOR HIMSELF!!
 




Professor Robert Millet       
teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004 
 http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/  <-- Complete and uneditted

 
 
Timeline...    Subject...
 
0:59            "Anti-Mormons..."
1:16            "ATTACK the faith you have..."
2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."
3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."

 

23 posted on 01/16/2011 11:53:20 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
 

Robert L. Millet; he who is built upon the rock will we receive this work with gladness.

Much has been said and demeaning about bro Millet

 
 
 
Not by ME!
 
I let the man SPEAK FOR HIMSELF!!
 




This is what Robert Millet, former Dean of Religious Education at BYU and spokesperson for the Church in conversations between an evangelical and a Mormon said about the Mormon religion.    In his book Alive in Christ: The Miracle of Spiritual Rebirth, (p. 140)   Millet stated,
 
"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is absolutely indispensable to our salvation.
No supposed personal relationship with Jesus, no commitment to the gospel,
no high level of Christian conduct in society can compensate for what is to be found in the Church."
 

24 posted on 01/16/2011 11:54:48 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu

“the use of a physical cross NEVER appears” on a mormon building...

Just why is that ???

or is this also a Robert Millet moment ???


25 posted on 01/16/2011 11:55:52 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu
 

Robert L. Millet; he who is built upon the rock will we receive this work with gladness.

Much has been said and demeaning about bro Millet

 
 
 
Not by ME!
 
I let the man SPEAK FOR HIMSELF!!
 




"For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
(Galatians 3:26-29).

Brother Robert L. Millet commented on the above verse:

"Paul is here teaching a mighty truth that is little understood in the religious world. We know that the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are entitled to 'the promises made unto the fathers' (Romans 15:8)—the right to receive the gospel, the priesthood, and, upon faithful obedience, the fulness of eternal life (Abraham 2:8-11). These blessings are made available through receipt of the ordinances of salvation, especially the ordinance of celestial marriage, performed only in holy temples."

 (Alive in Christ: The Miracle of Spiritual Rebirth, 78 - 79)

 


 
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26 posted on 01/16/2011 11:57:15 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
The Book of Mormon is not on trial it is the people and the members of today and how they treat and what they do with the Book of Mormon.

True.
It lost the trial it was in long ago; and now is serving a life sentence.

27 posted on 01/16/2011 11:58:41 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: FrankR
I wish they would add the (x) on FR like they do on Facebook so I could get rid of all mormon posts showing on my “wall”.

Hint:

Don't click on them...

28 posted on 01/16/2011 11:59:34 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
 
 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,
 
 

 
 
Acts 17:18-19
 18.  A group of Epicurean and Stoic philosophers began to dispute with him. Some of them asked, "What is this babbler trying to say?" Others remarked, "He seems to be advocating foreign gods." They said this because Paul was preaching the good news about Jesus and the resurrection.
 19.  Then they took him and brought him to a meeting of the Areopagus, where they said to him, "May we know what this new teaching is that you are presenting?
 
 
Acts 18:11
    So Paul stayed for a year and a half, teaching them the word of God.
 
 
Romans 15:4
 For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.
 
 
Romans 16:17
   I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
 
 
1 Corinthians 4:17
   For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.
 
 
1 Corinthians 11:2
 2.  I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.
 
 
Ephesians 4:14-15
 14.  Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
 15.  Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.
 
 
2 Thessalonians 2:15
   So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings  we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
 
 
2 Thessalonians 3:6
  In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching  you received from us.
 
 
1 Timothy 1:3-4
 3.  As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
 4.  nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.
 
 
1 Timothy 1:7
  They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.
 
 
1 Timothy 2:7
   And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.
 
 
1 Timothy 4:1-2
 1.  The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
 2.  Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
 
 
1 Timothy 4:6
   If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.
 
 
1 Timothy 4:11
  Command and teach these things.
 
 
1 Timothy 6:3-5
 3.  If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
 4.  he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 
 5.  and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
 
 
2 Timothy 1:13
  What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.
 
 
 2 Timothy 2:15-17
 15.  Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
 16.  Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.
 17.  Their teaching will spread like gangrene.
 
 
2 Timothy 3:16-17
 16.  All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 17.  so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
 
 
 2 Timothy 4:3-4
  3.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
  4.  They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
 
 
Titus 1:11
   They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.
 
 
Titus 2:1
  You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.
 
 
Titus 2:15
  These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.
 
 
 Hebrews 13:9
 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.
 
 
 2 Peter 2:1-3
 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 
 
2 John 1:10
  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.


29 posted on 01/16/2011 12:04:04 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: FrankR
This thread is posted in the Religion Forum.

If you do not wish to see RF posts, do NOT use the "everything" option on the browse. Instead, browse by "News/Activism." When you log back in, the browse will reset to "everything" - so be sure to set it back to "News/Activism."

30 posted on 01/16/2011 12:06:30 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Elsie

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I think rather that it cut its own throat in a blood atonemnt and bled out...


31 posted on 01/16/2011 12:07:49 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu
"“We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions, I have not had all my questions answered, the Lord hasn’t chosen to do that, He probably hasn’t answered all of yours. Nor are we obligated to answer everyone else’s question.", he replied, smarmily.


MORMONism:

A theological bait-and-switch game, which makes it's followers so smug and superior [”We’re better than those (fill-in-the-blank)”]

32 posted on 01/16/2011 12:09:24 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

excellent verses to defeat 19th century inventions.


33 posted on 01/16/2011 12:09:50 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: PeachyKeen
I believe that many Mormons don’t believe it either. They just don’t know a way out.

Whether they BELIEVE it or not; they canNOT defend it!

Watch for PD's List-o-links®...

34 posted on 01/16/2011 12:10:47 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
You have not answered the question on milk and meat you have changed the subject!

Are you talking about YOUR posting of un reliable SCRIPTURE?

35 posted on 01/16/2011 12:11:52 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
These men were NOT called of God but called by the Pagan murder Constantine!

Are we supposed to play DEFENSE now?

36 posted on 01/16/2011 12:12:30 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
the Nicene Creed was etched in chaos
 
 
 
The First Vision® appears to have been 'etched' in Silly Putty!
 




 FIRST VISION:VARIOUS VERSIONS OF VISIONS
 
Version Number 
When  Published 
Brief Description
Age 
Year
Pillar  
of  light
 No. of 
Person- 
ages
Father 
Present
Son 
Present
Question: 
Join What 
Sect?
Remarks-References 
 
1. Official version,  written 1838,
 first  Published 1842
 (There are minor differences between the various source references,
Ensign  Jan 1985, page 14) 
   14

  1820
   yes         2 
yes 

Both spoke  
 
yes  
 
Join none 
Lucy, Hyrum, Samuel, Sophronia join the Presbyterian Church - JSH, pages 49-50, 1981 edition;
Times & Seasons, March, April 1842;
Ensign Jan. 1985, page 14;
Joseph Smith's First Vision by
Milton V. Backamn, Bookcraft, 1971, 1980, Appendix C, page 160f 
2. Dictated by Smith to F.G. Williams, Summer to Nov. 1832  14 or 15     yes  
 
      1      no  
 
yes 

Saw Lord,

He  "spoke"

No question,
told "None doeth good",
sins forgiven 
Joseph Smith's First Vision, Appendix A, page 155f 
 
 
 
3. Written by Smith,
his 1832 diary,
in his own hand
 15  
 
   yes  
 
      1  
 
   no  
 
yes 

Saw the Lord Jesus  Christ

No question,
 told sins forgiven,
all do no good 
Ensign, Dec. 1984, pages 24-26; ibid, Jan. 1985, page 11
4. Smith's diary of 1835,
recorded by
Warren Cowdery,
Nov. 9, 1835, conversation of Smith with Joshua
About 
14 
yes  
 
One, then another like unto first 
 ?  
     ? 
Second spoke, saw  many angels
No questions,
told sins forgiven,
Jesus is Son 
Joseph Smith's First Vision, Appen. B 
5. Letter form Smith to
John Wentworth,
editor of Chicago Democrat
none  
   no  
       2 

They spoke
     ?  
 
No Question  
 
Joseph Smith's  First Vision, Appendix D;
Ensign, Jan 1985, page 16;
Times & Seasons, Vol  3, pages 706-707, March 1, 1842
6. Early church leaders
Brigham Young, G.A.Smith,
John Taylor 
   15  
 
   no  
 
        1 
Saw an angel, and asked the angel
   no 
 
 
 
 
 
   no 
 
 
 
 
 
   Join none 
 
 
 
 
 
See Journal of Discourses,
  2:17;
18:239;
13:77, 78;
20:167;
12:333, 334.
 
web/firvista.html 
5-11-95, Rev 8-8-98
 
John Farkas,     Berean Christian Ministries, P.O. Box 1091, Webster, N.Y. 14580



37 posted on 01/16/2011 12:15:19 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
At that time, two events involving Constantine led to the use of a physical cross or cross form by the state, the emerging church, and Christians.

"We will form our OWN nation; and call it 'DESERET'!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Deseret

38 posted on 01/16/2011 12:17:15 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
As well as 1st- 18th ones...

and 20th- 21st ones, too!

39 posted on 01/16/2011 12:20:16 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauvoo_Legion


40 posted on 01/16/2011 12:24:29 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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