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Jerusalem, the Have-not Whore
American Vision ^ | Feb. 4, 2011 | Joel McDurmon

Posted on 02/04/2011 11:29:26 AM PST by RJR_fan

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TOPICS: History; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; apostasy; bezotted; bs; ibtz; inheritance; israel; jewhatingmorons; replacementtheology; rot; tribulation
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To: Quix
Maybe we all need to build some bigger solar collectors for hot air and possibly buried rock heat storage?

That is what the Hippies out on the West Mesa are doing.

Ooops they are just using PROPANE heaters


41 posted on 02/05/2011 9:47:10 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: topcat54
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It still amazes me when some
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42 posted on 02/05/2011 9:51:56 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

hmmmmmm


43 posted on 02/05/2011 9:53:22 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: xzins; RJR_fan; P-Marlowe
Gary DeMar, the president of American Vision, believes .. that Jesus Christ’s second advent occurred in A.D. 70.

This is a plain falsehood. It is libelous. It is also more proof of the desperation of lying futurists.

44 posted on 02/05/2011 9:54:58 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- an error of Biblical proportions.")
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To: metmom
Great post!

The key is the time word "until" in verse 25.

45 posted on 02/05/2011 10:21:21 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
I find verse 29 particularly enlightening....

Romans 11: 28-29 As regards the gospel, they are enemies of God for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

46 posted on 02/05/2011 10:32:54 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
You're right!

It was the time word "until" in verse 25 that got me rethinking my views on eschatology, that's probably why I didn't think about verse 29, which is more appropriate for this thread.

For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

If something is irrevocable it can't be divorced from.

The "until" got me to realize that God is not done with Israel. Once I realized this simple thing The Revelation of Jesus Christ started making a lot of sense.

47 posted on 02/05/2011 10:41:04 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Quix

Remember, Quix. If Scripture is true, they lose.


49 posted on 02/05/2011 11:04:29 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: wmfights
To: metmom

You're right!

It was the time word "until" in verse 25 that got me rethinking my views on eschatology, that's probably why I didn't think about verse 29, which is more appropriate for this thread.

For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

If something is irrevocable it can't be divorced from.

The "until" got me to realize that God is not done with Israel. Once I realized this simple thing The Revelation of Jesus Christ started making a lot of sense.

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ABSOLUTELY INDEED!

50 posted on 02/05/2011 11:09:11 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

I’ve often been entertained by your “Quixicated” replies, especially the occasional flurry of white hankies.

But, this one is troubling, Quix. I’m concerned for you. Replacement Theology is disturbing and worthy of rebuke, but this is verging on the feedback loop gibberish written by Jared Loughner, imho.


51 posted on 02/05/2011 11:12:14 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Sadly so.


52 posted on 02/05/2011 11:14:27 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: RegulatorCountry

OK. OK.

Was pulled anyway, I see.


53 posted on 02/05/2011 11:17:05 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Basically, I couldn’t find my printed earlier version of my FONT TEST, so I decided to post another so I could print it for easy access in my new 3’ X 6’ diameter carousel by my chair.

And, I thought it would be fun to tweak the hideousness of REPLACEMENTAIANISM in the process.

That’s all.


54 posted on 02/05/2011 11:19:30 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: wmfights
The key is the time word "until" in verse 25.

Along with:

Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

55 posted on 02/05/2011 11:19:41 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: RegulatorCountry

SEARCH AND REPLACE

has it’s strengths and weaknesses. LOL.


56 posted on 02/05/2011 11:20:01 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: wmfights
Until Jesus Christ returns any Jew that dies without believing The Gospel will be condemned, so if we truly love the Jews isn't it our duty to preach The Gospel to them?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and do a FWIW...Don't cut it off... :)

There are those who believe that the Gates of Hell (Abraham's Bosom) are still intact for non-believing Jews...

And there are those of us who believe that when the Rapture happens, The Holy Spirit leaves the earth with the Church (Bride)...Salvation by Grace thru faith is over with...

Those left on the earth during the Tribulation will be saved, only by their good works AND the Testimony of their belief in Jesus Christ as layed out in the Gospels...While they will be saved, they will not be part of the church...

As far as the others' beliefs in the current Abraham's Bosom, Jesus will again descend and open those gates (when Satan is dumped into Hell at the end of the Tribulation), again preach to those behind the gates and us His keys to again unlock the Gates of Hell...

And of course, Jesus made the true claim that the Gates of Hell would not prevail against His church, Matt: 16...

Seems as tho there's a lot more in that BOOK than many people realize...All those little words are the most fascinating...The ones such as til, untill, shall be, then, or, etc...Seems people don't pay much attention to them...

BTW, I believe we are instructed to preach to anyone God puts in front of us...

57 posted on 02/05/2011 11:45:03 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
BTW, I believe we are instructed to preach to anyone God puts in front of us...

Since this is the easiest to respond to I'll start here. I agree.

For a Born Again Christian to not witness to someone is an indicator that they hate them. I don't want anyone to be damned. I know God has a plan for Israel (the Bible tells me so) and I want to support them at the same time I want to evangelize to them because if they aren't in the 1/3rd that God brings thru the Tribulation they are lost.

There are those who believe that the Gates of Hell (Abraham's Bosom) are still intact for non-believing Jews...

Obviously we are just conjecturing, but if so it would have to be those that died after Resurrection. However, why would this be? Are they any different then anyone else who has died in their sins?

And there are those of us who believe that when the Rapture happens, The Holy Spirit leaves the earth with the Church (Bride)...Salvation by Grace thru faith is over with...

This would be an argument for a mid-Trib rapture. The two witnesses aren't killed until the mid point and I'm assuming the Holy Spirit is with them.

Those left on the earth during the Tribulation will be saved, only by their good works AND the Testimony of their belief in Jesus Christ as layed out in the Gospels...While they will be saved, they will not be part of the church...

It makes sense we return with Jesus Christ when He puts an end to the Tribulation. The Bride has already been married at that point.

And of course, Jesus made the true claim that the Gates of Hell would not prevail against His church, Matt: 16...

I think that occurred after the Crucifixion. I don't see how a special consideration would be made for Jews after Jesus' ministry on Earth.

Seems as tho there's a lot more in that BOOK than many people realize...All those little words are the most fascinating...The ones such as til, untill, shall be, then, or, etc...Seems people don't pay much attention to them...

The more I read it the more I see. I think the hardest part is being willing to challenge everything and expecting it to be consistent and make sense. I had the hardest time with eschatology until I realized the Tribulation is all about God opening the eyes of Israel, that Israel is Hosea's bride.

58 posted on 02/05/2011 12:36:04 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: blasater1960
Looks like RJR is just an anti-semite and racist to me. And his words arent worth the paper or ink used to write them.

Not that I would expect anything less from him. Like Hamas, he just lobs bombs at Jews to make them squirm.

59 posted on 02/05/2011 8:40:02 PM PST by papabrody (Proud member of the International Jewish Conspiracy)
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To: topcat54

Since it seems that RJR_Fan has left the discussion, I’ll forward my question on to you, as the other defender of Preterism here.

If I understand this article correctly, the whole thrust is that because of Israel’s infidelity to God, Christ was sent to act as God’s Lawyer in establishing a case against Israel so that God could divorce Israel and marry the Church.

Am I correct in stating that this is what you believe? I’m trying to establish something here and I just need to know exactly what you believe.


60 posted on 02/07/2011 7:03:35 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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