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Tradition Still Requires Interpretation
The Gospel Coalition ^ | 02/09/2011 | Kevin DeYoung

Posted on 02/09/2011 12:55:10 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: philly-d-kidder

BTW These Doctors of the Church there are 33 In 2000 years. They Have 3 Requirements as “Doctors of the Catholic Church”:

1) holiness that is truly outstanding, even among saints;

2) depth of doctrinal insight; and

3) an extensive body of writings which the church can recom­mend as an expression of the authentic and life-giving Catholic Tradition.

But Sola Scriptura..... No Tradition Allowed...


21 posted on 02/09/2011 3:39:55 PM PST by philly-d-kidder (AB-Sheen"The truth is the truth if nobody believes it,a lie is still a lie, everybody believes it")
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To: RnMomof7

The Catholic Church had a foundation in Holy Tradition long before the Bibble was recorded (even the Old Testament.)

Tradition for Catholics — isn’t rituals, it’s the oral passing down of the Word of God as recorded in the Bible. It has been a part of the Catholic Church and will remain a part of the Catholic Church forever.


22 posted on 02/09/2011 4:14:49 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RnMomof7

>> “This illumination is not limited to church councils.” <<

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No, it is limited to individuals.

Only individuals can have a relationship with God. The Holy Spirit is sent to the individual believers, not to any ‘council.’

Christianity is strictly a one on one experience between the believer and their Lord; there is no provision for anything in between given in the word of God.


23 posted on 02/09/2011 4:15:35 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: RnMomof7
For the enlightenment of all. Please don't keep wandering around in the darkness:

Do Christians Need Only the Bible?
[T]radition and [t]radition (and just what is the difference?) [Ecumenical]
What is Holy Tradition?
Why Does The Catholic Church Accept Traditions? [Ecumenical]

A Return to Tradition: A new interest in old ways takes root in Catholicism and many other faiths
Scripture Is Tradition
SCRIPTURE AND TRADITION
The Importance of Tradition Today
The Place of Custom and Tradition
Early Church Fathers on (Oral) Tradition - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
Holy Tradition: The Road That Leads Home
On Holy Scripture and Holy Tradition
Recovering the Catholic Moral Tradition: The notion of happiness
Tradition and Reform

APOSTOLIC TRADITION: Consistency or Contradiction?
Can Vatican II be interpreted in the light of Tradition?
The New Mass: A Return to Tradition???
Pope praises Ukrainian-Catholic Church for upholding Sacred Tradition, communion with Seat of Peter
The Shadow Tradition - Magisterium vs Murk
[Catholic] Tradition catching on with Baptists [Ecumenical Ash Wed. Service]
Pope will preside at Ash Wednesday Mass, procession; act will renew ancient tradition
How Tradition Gave Us the Bible
Papal Supremacy Is Against Tradition
"In Light Of Tradition"... The Society Of St. Pius X And Vatican II

24 posted on 02/09/2011 4:19:12 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RnMomof7

The kids are all over this thread with their simplistic retorts, can we have a new thread for adults?

Arguing with childish minds is like trying to clean a mirror with a muddy rag.


25 posted on 02/09/2011 4:31:30 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: Salvation

Of what value is a list of links to well known catholic error?

The catholic church is darkness defined; it leads to the second death.


26 posted on 02/09/2011 4:35:15 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: editor-surveyor

They can not even understand this very simple truth... darkness is so overwhelming


27 posted on 02/09/2011 5:09:21 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: blue-duncan; RnMomof7; BibChr
Well, obviously the Holy Spirit explains it to him(not HS) but not to you.....but He(HS) does inspire you to listen to him(not HS)...and then inspires him(not HS) to explain it to you......and He(HS) then interprets his(not HS) explanation to you so that you don’t have to do any original critical thinking since that would cause you to question his(not HS) understanding of whatever was explained to him (not HS) by the Holy Spirit (HS).

That's about the best explanation for the ridiculous notion that we must depend on someone else to explain God's Word to us that I've ever had the pleasure to read! Thanks for using the absurd to show how absurd it truly is!!

28 posted on 02/09/2011 5:18:38 PM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Your Own Personal Interpretation Of The Magisterium?

Nice... gotta remember that...

:D

Hoss

29 posted on 02/09/2011 5:47:23 PM PST by HossB86
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To: Campion
I find every one of those things in Scripture, and by your own doctrine, you have no more authority to tell me I'm wrong ... than the Pope has to tell you you're wrong.

Actually, you don't. There is nothing in scripture that supports popery, Mass, purgatory, et. al. The Magicsterium* says that they exist, so "tradition" supports their existence, and the mass of Roman Catholics drink up the bilge as if it's true.

And fallible men, just as you accuse here, are the authors of it. Not scripture.

Hoss

*credit to Quix

30 posted on 02/09/2011 5:53:03 PM PST by HossB86
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To: paladinan; RnMomof7

Have you not read that RnMomof7 is not the author of the piece? Care to argue your points with the author?

If others happen to agree that’s one thing. But your post seems to ascribe the authorship to RM7.

Hoss


31 posted on 02/09/2011 5:56:59 PM PST by HossB86
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To: editor-surveyor
Arguing with childish minds is like trying to clean a mirror with a muddy rag.

Well, e-s, that's about the only thing you're gonna find here responding to fact. It's sad...but true.

Hoss

32 posted on 02/09/2011 6:01:27 PM PST by HossB86
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To: Salvation; RnMomof7; editor-surveyor; Quix; metmom
The Catholic Church had a foundation in Holy Tradition long before the Bibble was recorded (even the Old Testament.)

Let me get this straight -- The Roman Catholic church EXISTED in the time of Abraham and Moses (as this scripture was written down by men inspired by God) and served as "tradition"?

That is indeed laughable. Are you sure you want to stand by that statement? Or maybe you misstated it (I hope).

Regardless, this is one for the books and that's a fact.

Hoss

33 posted on 02/09/2011 6:07:20 PM PST by HossB86
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To: HossB86

Suitable for framing! :o)


34 posted on 02/09/2011 6:46:43 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: editor-surveyor

Amazing, no?

Hoss


35 posted on 02/09/2011 7:02:01 PM PST by HossB86
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To: HossB86
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36 posted on 02/09/2011 8:58:52 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: editor-surveyor
The Catholic Church is not in error and the Bible proves it.

John 21: (We'll be using the KJV today, kids,  to keep things on even footing):

"And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen."

 

The Bible Itself declares that it doesn't contain everything.


37 posted on 02/09/2011 9:55:51 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: HossB86

You need to read some more Scripture. The New Covenant fulfills the Old Covenant. The New Testament fulfills the Old Testament.

Quiz for today —

How many Gospel writers quote the Old Covenant and the Old Testament?

LOL!


38 posted on 02/09/2011 9:57:46 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RnMomof7

I just realized how funny the title is.

It is written in presnet tense.

Tradition is the Word of God that was handed down from person to person in ancient times until it was written down in the Bible.

Tradition is not a “present tense” thing.

It’s been here a long time. (And you can thank the Catholic Church for preserving it.)


39 posted on 02/09/2011 10:11:05 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
The Bible Itself declares that it doesn't contain everything.

No... If you READ the verse you quoted, you'd find that the subject is Jesus and the things he did. How does this verse exegetically support "tradition?"

Clue=it doesn't

can you not see the difference

Hoss

40 posted on 02/10/2011 3:32:15 AM PST by HossB86
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