Posted on 02/28/2011 5:35:55 AM PST by verdugo
Don’t tell anyone, but I even have a dictionary on the bookshelf where the children can open it and see ... words.
And thanks for the kind words! When Anoreth patents the holographic sarcasm-sign projector, I’ll make sure you get one.
To me, simply that it makes envisioning female priests that much more palatable. For Vatican III.
All that criticism of the Church in the 50s and yet the liturgy was perfect.
Does the phrase "Whited sepulchre" ring any bells with you?
I am an outsider to the RC, but I like B16’s fight to drive out the rot that has infiltrated the Roman Catholic Church. Protestant or Catholic, what does this “social justice” have to do with the Gospel. Nothing, it is warmed over Gramscian Marxism. The same rot that has poison ELCA, PCUSA, ECUSA, what have you.
Has the so-called Bible translation called “The Message” been getting any circulation in the Catholic Church? I saw one verse purporting to be Matthew 5:5. My response was “gaaack!”. It’s supposed to be “modern contemporary language”, but corrupted to “social justice” drivel, trying to turn the Word of God into a feel good self help book. Made me wanna run to the old King Jimmy (maybe Duoay in your case).
Not that I've noticed. In the US, the translation used in services and many publications is the plodding "New American Bible."
I got a copy of The Message at a Christian bookstore clearance sale. Sometimes I use it when I'm studying, for comparison with other versions.
I didn’t misread your post. You need to do some homework on the poster you responded to. Seriously. Do your homework.
Don’t tell me you have a thesaurus too, or you’ll be doomed to hellfire for all eternity!
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1) Are you saying that you found on my thread article, the phrase "Sensuous cleavage in pants"?
At Communion four ladies – three in pants – went to the side altar to pick up the chalices. The song leader was sensuous, in a blouse showing cleavage ...
Perhaps the OP didn't read the article before posting it. Evidence for this includes the fact that he/she was able to post it, rather than being on the floor laughing hysterically.
My post #37 contained five complete sentences, an exclamatory phrase, and, I regret, a genuinely ungrammatical fragment. (The fragment was included for effect, but I've never really believed it's correct to do that.)
I do apologize. If English is not your, or the author's, native language, then my engaging in persiflage has been unkind.
The boys were very disappointed with the thesaurus. Pat wanted it to have definitions, and James wanted it to be a dinosaur.
yet again, I yearn for a “like” button on FR.
I loved those priests! The ones I knew were all WWII vets. Good guys. Tough, though.
LOL! The dinosaur bit sounds like something Brooke (my 6 y.o.) would say. At this point, she’s just glad that she got rid of that nasty C+ in Spelling by scoring 100 on 3 tests in a row.
I’m trying hard to viciously fight the bad spelling gene my husband possesses and so far, I’m winning. (Our oldest boy, Steven, has a 97 average in Spelling and his older sister, Kelly, who’s almost 13, has an A- in the subject). I’m letting them roll with the good math gene that Dad also has. It’s a keeper ;)
2) The above facilitated, open the door to: the insertion of purposely ambiguous language in VatII, that would later be interpreted to the benefit of the progressives
3)It was the change to the vernacular mass, which opened up the New Mass to all kinds of ad-libbing, as many masses as there were priests (and the Charismatic masses, Clown masses, Conga line masses, Polka masses). Something which could not be done with the mass had it been done in Latin.
Look, what happened was exactly what the progressivists had planned. They had no intention of just doing the New Mass in Latin with the same churches,high altars, vestments, altar men/boys, that existed for like 500 years. They wanted what you see. Had they done the Novus Ordo in Latin, with the same vestments, altars,churches, altar servers as in the 1950’s NO ONE WOULD HAVE NOTICED! That was not their intention, they wanted what you see today.
In the end, the shortage of priests is simple (it stems from the same cause of the shortage of mass attending men) - What man would want to be a priest (or attend mass) in this TOTALLY effeminatized mass environment? Only feelings oriented effeminatized men.
Would you be so kind as to eliminate my posting #56.
Thanks, and God Bless
The principle reason is to place young men on the road to the priesthood. A young man that served at the Gregorian Latin Mass from say 6 years of age till he was 18, knew the mass and rubrics and Latin better than 99% of the priests today.
Your first two points are good. I have to disagree with your criticism of the vernacular Mass. Ad-libbing can be done in any language, including Latin. Non-standard Masses are almost entirely due to loosely worded Vatican II standards and liberal Bishops who fail to reign in rogue priests, not the language in which they are said.
I don’t have any disrespect for those who want the Mass said in Latin. I would imagine that you have a strong sense for the importance of tradition and feel that the Mass in a different language imparts an element of respect that the Mass deserves.
But could a Charimatic Mass be said in Latin? Of course it could. Could a Latin Mass have folk singers singing the Beatles “Let It Be”? Of course. Could liberal priests promote the importance of turning to socialism in the middle of a Latin Mass? Of course they could, and they did it prior to Vatican II.
Had Vatican II been the same as it is now but kept the Mass in Latin, I don’t see any evidence that anything would have turned out differently.
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