Hundreds (600) of Anglicans start move to Catholic church on Ash Wednesday

Winnipeg Free Press ^ | March 9, 2011 | Robert Barr

[Campion]

It is a huge, some might say arroagant, assumption that Jesus was speaking to Rome.

Jesus was speaking to His Church. At that point in time, "His Church" and "the Apostles" were one and the same.

I would think that would be elementary to one who claims to study the Bible.

[Antoninus]

Come on over, brother. We could use a bloke like you.

[Antoninus]

"And when you fast, do not look gloomy like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces that their fasting may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face,that your fasting may not be seen by others but by your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you."

You do realize that this passage was part of the Gospel reading at every Catholic Mass today. Some Catholics aren't as scrupulous in following Our Lord's advice as they should be. That may be true.

BTW, I had a nice chat with a young Baptist lady today who was interested in the cross of ashes on my forehead and I got the opportunity to evangelize a bit. Sadly, though raised a Baptist, she "doesn't believe in any of that religious stuff any more." Should I tar all Baptists because of my experience with her?

[Campion]

Anglicans . . . with a little light . . . moving into greater darkness is sad.

So we have a church which:

1. Is now going to ordain women to the episcopacy
2. Is wishy-washy on abortion
3. Is wishy-washy on homosexuality
4. And is in full communion with a church (TEC) which
   1. Has been ordaining women for a long time
   2. Ordains non-celibate homosexuals to the episcopacy
   3. Had a notorious bishop (John Shelby Spong) who practically personified the concept of "apostate"
   4. Is blatantly and without any hesitation pro-abortion

And you think folks leaving that church are moving into *greater* darkness?

On the one hand, you guys say that liberal Protestantism doesn't count as Christian and shouldn't be held against you. On the other, you often sound like you'd rather people were liberal Protestants than Catholics.

I'll ask you straight out: do you believe a faithful, orthodox, believing Catholic is worse off spiritually than a liberal Protestant who thinks homosexual activity is moral and abortion is peachy, and Jesus was mostly just a great moral teacher and a "good man", etc.?

[Antoninus]

The fact is that for every one Protestant who converts to Rome, four Roman Catholics flee the papacy and become Protestant.

And of those four, two will eventually pull a Jesse Romero and come back to the Catholic faith.

[Campion]

The fact is that for every one Protestant who converts to Rome, four Roman Catholics flee the papacy and become Protestant.

Are you talking worldwide, or some specific country? When you consider that (Pentecostal) Protestantism is sold throughout Latin America as the progressive, modern, Norte-Americano thing, and that Evangelicalism worldwide goes for the hard sell in making church attendance into an entertainment experience, complete with rock bands, entertaining sermons, etc. ... those are impressively good statistics -- for us.

And Antoninus is right -- don't count on keeping all of them. Francis Beckwith, Jesse Romero, Jeff Cavins -- and those are only the reverts I know of because they've written books and do apologetics.

[Antoninus]

Are you talking worldwide, or some specific country? When you consider that (Pentecostal) Protestantism is sold throughout Latin America as the progressive, modern, Norte-Americano thing, and that Evangelicalism worldwide goes for the hard sell in making church attendance into an entertainment experience, complete with rock bands, entertaining sermons, etc. ... those are impressively good statistics -- for us.

Exactly. And I personally consider a little "competition" in Latin America to be a good thing, ultimately. It could very well be the Holy Spirit's way of shaking some Latin American bishops out of their complacency and forcing them to become true shepherds again.

[Ransomed]

A bunch of folks escaping priestesses, “gay marriage”, and homosexualist clergy in “relationships” to a group that doesn’t accept those things?

A massive blow to conservatives everywhere. Yeesh.

Freegards

[Campion]

Headquarters, in desparate need of the money

Funny you should mention money.

My daughter takes music lessons at a PCA church. My wife brought home one of their weekly bulletins. I was shocked to see that the monthly budget for this PCA church was something like twenty times the monthly budget for my bedraggled, old, velveteen bunny Catholic parish.

TWENTY times?!? (No, they don't have twenty times the membership; maybe 5 times if that.) Twenty times, and we're all about the money?

The sacrament of confession, BTW, does not involve a fee.

[Quix]

YEAH.

Ran even more intensely & deviously by Jesuit globalists in league with satan than the Episcopal horror...

One might think that the altar boy PE training would be a clue to some . . . evidently not to those on FR.

[Quix]

The Anglican Episcopal church was neutered into spiritual fogginess and oblivion long ago. Only The Charismatics within it as well as the Charismatics within the RCC appear to have any authentic heart for and connection with God much at all.

GIVEN THE LATENESS OF THE HOUR in terms of END TIMES EVENTS . . . and the deadliness, eternal deadliness of cultish lies and deceptions . . .

Our military has been deliberately transferred overseas and spread thin and decimated.

Foreign police force personnel have been hired for use in this country by the thousands with our tax dollars.

And that’s just the tiniest tip of the iceberg.

I don’t think those of us in watchmen-on-the-wall roles have the luxury to play sweetness and light about much of anything any more.

There are some reports that the long prophesied Vatican evil Black Pope is already running things behind the scenes, scripting all of Benedicts significant actions and pronouncements.

THE TRUTH IS VITAL. THE TRUTH IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF LOVE AT THIS POINT.

I don’t want any RCC folks’ blood on my hands.

Here’s some documentation

in the globalists own words and documents—including those in the Vatican Cult—otherwise known as the Roman Catholic Church:

AMAZING DISCOVERIES DR VEITH RE ILLUMINATI ETC SECRET SOCIETIES:

http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/123/211-232K/

My understanding is that the following confirms a lot of the above but I haven’t looked at much of it:

The Secret History of the Jesuits

http://arcticbeacon.com/books/Paris-The_Secret_History_of_Jesuits%281975%29.pdf

Written by a former Jesuit Priest

[Joya]

Thanks.

The one-world religion marches on.

When Jesus returns, will He find faith on the earth?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

You ever cross the Tiber? I once did, on a bus.

The Tiber is a muddy, turbulent cesspoll of a river.

Ever been to Lake Geneva? I’ve been there.

Cool, calm and refreshing.

LOLOL. Me, too. Great comparison.

[Revolting cat!]

Gasp! Bad, bad news for the Dr. Quickleberx twins!

[Quix]

How fascinating, Dr E . . .

YET AGAIN, THE RC’S ARE FLAUNTING REBELLION AGAINST THE RM’S INSTRUCTIONS

to avoid mangling/distorting FREEPER’S SCREEN NAMES.

WHAT A SURPRISE. NOT.

On the one hand, they !!!!DEMAND!!!! that FR and particularly the Rel Forum

CONFORM TO THEIR THIN-SKINNED SENSIBILITIES AND BE RAN, ESSENTIALLY LIKE AN UNIT OF THE VATICAN.

Essentially—they want THEIR TYRANNICAL AUTHORITARIAN HOGWASH TO RULE THE DAY AND THE FORUM.

Otherwise, they’ll chafe against, sit on the abuse button against and generally rebel against the authority and rules of the exceedingly fair-to-them RM.

Fascinating. What 2 year old duplicitous brats.

[Quix]

BTW, it’s not bad news for me, per se.

It’s bad news for those involved.

It’s sad, to me. However, I’m doing my job as watchman on the wall more or less as well as I know how. Folks who choose to ignore my warnings are their own responsibility, now.

[Revolting cat!]

Geez, what happened to the colourful big fonts? Did they too betray ya and convert to dirty old Catholicism?

[Quix]

No.

Sometimes I just don’t bother, for various reasons.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Lurkers are not blind. They can see who posts Scriptural arguments and who flings third-grade taunts.

The real problem is that their humor is so lame. If there were some cleverness to it, it might be palatable. As it is, it's just stupid.

[Quix]

The real problem is that their humor is so lame. If there were some cleverness to it, it might be palatable. As it is, it’s just stupid.

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Indeed. That’s been one of the bigger inconsequential disappointments over the decade+.

I used to hope for some parity of wit and humor. Sadly, they are seldom even in the same galactic cluster as Proddys.

I guess slugggging & slummmming around in the Vatican Cesspool of dirthy mangled theology, mangled history and mangled pseudo ‘Bible’s likely drains off whatever creativity and humor they may have started out with.