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New World Order, New Age Religion
self/vanity | March 12, 2011 | Jean F. Drew

Posted on 03/12/2011 2:58:25 PM PST by betty boop

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This article may strike some readers as totally bizarre. On the other hand, I know that there are not a few people who frequent the Religion Forum who are concerned about the phenomenon of "New Age Religion," but have scanty information about it. As a former student thereof, I thought I might be able to provide some further information.

Right off the top, additional information about Alice Bailey and Benjamin Creme seems to be in order.

It was Alice Bailey who first surfaced the doctrines of the "Hidden Masters of the Hierarchy" and "The Reappearance of the Lord Maitreya, the 'true' Christ." She claims that her direct source was just such a "hidden master," an adept spiritual personality sent "from Above" to dictate to Bailey the contents of her 22 books. As Bailey describes it, she was "channeling" a "risen" person who was, in his earthly life, a Tibetan monk by the name of Djwal Kuhl. What further can I say?

RE: Ben Creme. Unlike the case with Bailey (who died in 1949), I know this man personally. I absolutely certify him to you as a thorough-going British Socialist of the Fabian (read: progressivist) School.

Just some further "backgrounder" info for people who might actually be inclined to read this article.

1 posted on 03/12/2011 2:58:29 PM PST by betty boop
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To: betty boop
A waste of time. The details of this garbage are of no more value than the details of astrology or any other bogus scam.
2 posted on 03/12/2011 3:11:23 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: betty boop

Think of Benjamin Creme as the “spiritual” version of George Soros.

“Spiritual” as in evil spirits. A very strange and dangerous man.


3 posted on 03/12/2011 3:11:47 PM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: hinckley buzzard

Thank you ever so much, hinckley buzzard, for your obviously “enlightened” opinion — the details of which you have not yet provided.


4 posted on 03/12/2011 3:13:15 PM PST by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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To: betty boop

Great, and accurate article in my estimation! bttt


5 posted on 03/12/2011 3:16:12 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: Alamo-Girl; xzins
Well, I finally stopped "wrassling this bear." This is the best I can do. Thank you ever so much, my dearest sister in Christ, and my very dear Padre for your read of this piece, and especially for your advice. Of course, I alone am responsible for what I did with that advice!

From my heart, thank you dear ones!

6 posted on 03/12/2011 3:16:45 PM PST by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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To: Matchett-PI
Jeepers, Matchett-PI, I was just about to ping you to it! Thinking you might find it "interesting."

Thanks ever so much for your kind words!

7 posted on 03/12/2011 3:19:15 PM PST by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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To: betty boop

While one can’t deny that sometimes obscure mythology can influence political movements (eg the Völkisch > Thule-Gesellschaft > Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) where does one find the connection with this particular myth to current halls of power and how it specifically manifests?


8 posted on 03/12/2011 3:20:22 PM PST by mnehring
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To: betty boop; DManA; M. Espinola; topcat54; ShadowAce; jy8z; The Theophilus; Dr. Eckleburg; ...
Thanks for the article. As a young seeker, I attended Lutheran services at the college chapel -- but was actually recruited there into an esoteric cult that took the works of Gurdjieff and P D Ospensky as their scriptures. Quite evil stuff -- more mind-bending than psychedelic drugs. Our spirits were made to connect with an external and eternal God, not to recursively seek internal truth internally.

The tragedy of pietism is -- it reduces Christianity to a set of internal "spiritual" experiences, a religion of "the heart." Historically, Christianity has been taught and practiced as a total world-view, that applied to all aspects of reality. An objective map of the real world, not just a tourist guide to one's own "inner light."

You can't trump a world view -- such as humanism, or Islam -- with a navel view. Besides, other players in the market can vend even more vivid experiences. To cite theologian Debby Boone, "How can it be wrong, when it feels so right? As I said, in the concluding paragraph of my dissertation,

It's happening now -- American evangelicals are losing most of their children.
9 posted on 03/12/2011 3:26:08 PM PST by RJR_fan ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: betty boop
"Jeepers, Matchett-PI, I was just about to ping you to it! Thinking you might find it "interesting." Thanks ever so much for your kind words!"

Thank you, you're welcome!

I've been watching the "new-agers" and their antics for a long time. In fact I was just reading Gagdad Bob's unique perspective on the subject just the other day.

You might find it interesting, too:

Get the Lead Out of Your Ascent: All That New Age Glitterati Isn't Gold

10 posted on 03/12/2011 3:30:41 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: Matchett-PI; Alamo-Girl; xzins
Quoth Gagdad Bob: Even animals understand the laws of physics in their own way. It is very hard to be completely wrong about subjects as vast as "science" and "spirit" — which is why charlatans proliferate in both. The hard part is to appreciate their unity without facilely distorting either.

Thank you ever so much for the link to Gagdad Bob's ever interesting insights on the most weighty matters facing mankind today.

BTW, dear Matchett-PI, do you know anything about Gagdad Bob's curriculum vitae? I mean, who is this guy? And where does he come from? So far, my search for this kind of information has led exactly nowhere.

But that doesn't mean I don't like him. :^)

11 posted on 03/12/2011 4:12:13 PM PST by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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To: YHAOS; MHGinTN; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; spirited irish; hosepipe; Diamond; marron; wmfights; ..
Hi guys!

Hopefully the "executive summary" at the top of this piece will enable you quickly to determine whether or not this rather "bizzare" article is worth your time to read through.

But if you stick around, I'd so love to hear from you!

12 posted on 03/12/2011 4:30:19 PM PST by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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Our spirits were made to connect with an external and eternal God, not to recursively seek internal truth internally.

The tragedy of pietism is -- it reduces Christianity to a set of internal "spiritual" experiences, a religion of "the heart." Historically, Christianity has been taught and practiced as a total world-view, that applied to all aspects of reality. An objective map of the real world, not just a tourist guide to one's own "inner light."

You can't trump a world view -- such as humanism, or Islam -- with a navel view. Besides, other players in the market can vend even more vivid experiences. To cite theologian Debby Boone, "How can it be wrong, when it feels so right?" As I said, in the concluding paragraph of my dissertation,

Unless religious people today also address issues of corporate structure, objective ethics, public identity, and the transmission of their values to future generations, they will suffer the fate of the losers in Atatürk's culture wars. A transcendent “navel view,” a personal mystical piety, no matter how intense, will never suffice as a substitute for a full-orbed world view. If people are unable to provide their offspring with explanations for life that are at least as big and comprehensive as all of life, their more thoughtful children will jump ship and join forces with ideologies that do seem to offer answers.

AMEN! Great comment.

Regarding those Protestant evangelical young adults not attending church, two points...

1) All the more reason to raise your children as reformed, and not evangelical.

2) The late teens and early twenties are the time when young people define themselves in opposition to their upbringing. It's almost unnatural not to "rebel" on some level. I ignored my faith during those years. College encouraged me to think of myself as "enlightened," and I glibly complied.

It wasn't until my brain developed beyond the usual liberal idiocy taught in universities and I had a family of my own that I rushed back to my faith with both arms open.

Regarding "new world religion," all superstition kills. Wherever we find it. It all comes from the same lie -- that men can do what only God can accomplish.

And yes. Our faith should encompass a world view - the entire world and how to deal with all of it in clear terms of God's sovereignty over all things.

"For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." -- Colossians 1:16-17

"All things."

13 posted on 03/12/2011 4:31:52 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: betty boop

Islam is a perfect fit for the New World Order. It is a philosophy of control masquerading as religion with socialism built into it.


14 posted on 03/12/2011 4:36:57 PM PST by ronnyquest (Barack H. Obama is the Manchurian Candidate. What are you going to do about it?)
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To: betty boop

“The two spiritual/philosophical systems — East (Buddhism) and West (Christianity/classical philosophy) — are similar in their basic understanding of the structure of human psyche as a “three-bodied system” consisting of consciousness (rational intellect), unconsciousness (feeling), and organic instinct. They also agree the soul, psyche, is eternal.”

Betty, I don’t think this correctly characterizes the Christian perspective of Christ or the Apostles. After Christianity absorbed Hellenism, this notion of the soul is perhaps correct. But second temple Judaism (and therefore Christianity) believed that God created and maintain our bodies. We are our bodies and the bodies are God’s creation. Jesus resurrection and our later resurrections will be bodily resurrections but “glorified.” God created our bodies and who we are. I don’t see why the notion of a separate soul is necessary for the Creator to resurrect us. He spoke the universe into being. The importance of the body is demonstrated by the crucifixion as the fulfillment of the law and it’s central role in Christianity. The body (the Temple of God) was crucified and rebuilt in three days. Had Jesus not been made of real stuff and genuinely suffered, the whole thing falls apart.

I know there is some ambiguity in the New Testament on this issue. But I think it is dangerous to impose our modern notion of a “soul”, which is informed mainly by Greek thought, into first century Judaism or Christianity. Recall that Revelation ends in the creation of a new heaven and earth, where we will spend eternity. Paul and John are quite clear we will spend it there in glorified bodies, not as disembodied souls.


15 posted on 03/12/2011 4:39:00 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: betty boop
Thank you for your great work. I have started but have not finished your piece (I am simultaneously watching a ball game and you deserve more concentration.)

... he calls the idea of “objective” Good and Evil as “the most maleficent lie” ever told.

Sounds similar to Hagel's Dialectical Materialism on which Marx and Engels based their theories.

16 posted on 03/12/2011 4:46:27 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government!)
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17 posted on 03/12/2011 5:00:29 PM PST by BipolarBob (I'm BiPolar,BiWinning AND have a clean drug test. Questions? Call 1-800-CharlieSheen)
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“BTW, dear Matchett-PI, do you know anything about Gagdad Bob’s curriculum vitae? I mean, who is this guy? And where does he come from? So far, my search for this kind of information has led exactly nowhere.” ~ betty boop

This is how he describes himself (its all I know):

Robert W.Godwin [Gagdad Bob] , Ph.D is a clinical psychologist whose interdisciplinary work has focused on the relationship between contemporary psychoanalysis, chaos theory, and quantum physics.

I know he’s said many times that he despises the thinking of most of the so-called experts in his field.

He’s not a theologian, but is highly interested in religion. He’s said that he trusts those more knowledgeable in the orthodox Christian religion (who read his blog), to set him straight if they think he’s wrong.

I know his wife has recently joined the Catholic Church, but he distrusts “organized religion”, from what I gather reading his blog.

He sure is one to think outside the box. :)


18 posted on 03/12/2011 5:11:04 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: mnehring; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; P-Marlowe
where does one find the connection with this particular myth to current halls of power and how it specifically manifests?

You have the proposition that a social order works best when there is a religious order that supports it. This proposition is stated at the outset of the article.

Also, you have the reality of Christianity, that in it's true form it emphasizes the "individual's" responsibility before God for his/her own actions and beliefs. Christianity, therefore, could NEVER be the supporting religious system for a this-world one-world communal social order, for its emphasis is on the individual.

This particular New Age "religion" is interesting because it calls for the "clearing and leveling the ground so an entirely new system can be erected on the razed site." One suspects that other New Age religions suggest the same thing. Additionally, these New Age religion call for the subjugation of the individual to the "teacher." (Dictatorship of the proletariat in priestly garb?)

Now, your question is a good one.

Where does this currently connect with the halls of power? If it does it is covert. What this article points out ominously is that there are specific offices within the United Nations that support these New Age philosophies.

One can only assume that they research and refine them in their retro-ductive evolution into some form that actually will be amenable to a world-wide sales campaign.

In the meantime, retro-grade, licentious Christianity is the leading candidate as "Mystery, Babylon, Mother of Harlots" who rides the final world system but is hated by it.

19 posted on 03/12/2011 5:42:39 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: betty boop

THX THX.


20 posted on 03/12/2011 7:04:10 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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