Posted on 03/21/2011 7:56:54 AM PDT by fishtank
Beck's Bogus Beliefs
March 2011
by T. A. McMahon
"Glenn Beck, the television and radio talk show host who is best known for his conservative political views, isn't someone whom we would normally address in our newsletter. Our concerns are usually directed at individuals, programs, or organizations that promote spiritual or theological views contrary to the Word of God. Beck, of late, seems to be making himself at home in that realm, and he's attracting many who call themselves Bible-believing Christians. ...
First of all, Glenn Beck is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He may refer to himself as a Christian, but he's certainly not a biblical Christian. The distinction is as wide as hell is from heaven: "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God" (2 John:9). Mormon doctrine is "another gospel" that exalts "another Jesus." Both false beliefs came out of the deceived and deceiving mind of Joseph Smith. Secondly, "our country" doesn't have "Christian roots," even though some are claiming that our founding fathers were true Christians. Many were not biblical Christians but Christians in name only, who followed the faith of Deism, Masonry, and the philosophy of the Enlightenment. Any early influence in America's history of a biblical nature very likely came from the Pilgrims and the Puritans...."
Yadda yadda, TRUTH, yadda, yadda,BAD, yadda, yadda OBSCURO.
No way is a mormon either a deist like our Founders or even,as the article states Christians in name only. They are yet another created religion. And in vast experience, like RomneyCare— they are not to be trusted. The historical record is both clear and bloody. Yadda yadda. Deo Vindice.
Jesus said to His disciples who were concerned about other ministers not in ‘their’ group, “He who is not against us is with us.” I fail to see how Beck is against us on almost anything. Quite the contrary, those who constantly carp at other consrvatives, even in a “RELIGION” forum, seem to be offending the Biblical injunction to remove the plank in your own eye.
Yes, Masons too. In fact, many of the Founders, including Washington, were Masons.
The preparedness manual, so called, was derived from US govt. sources in the 50’s (red scare, personal bunkers etc.). The few remaining family farmers have subscribed to these preparedness practices for generations. The govt. does not want us prepared independently of their largesse and protection at a price- freedom.
Beck could take these two clowns down in a one hour show. They better be careful.
Want to really rattle some of these people?
Remind them that the Bible we read was not written by Jesus, nor the supposed authors of the Books, but rather it was interpreted in 1611 by 47 friends of King James of England!
Then, of course, there are the Gnostic Gospels...
The article refutes Beck's faith and what he has written in his new book. That is not hate, but discernment, scholarship and legitimate criticism.
McMahon is warning people about the false doctrine of Mormonism and the corrupting influence of new age-y practices espoused by Beck and Ablow. I agree with him 100%.
I was wondering how long it would be before Beck started to leverage his stature within Conservatism to evangelize for the LDS church. Tea Partiers need to be very careful that their movement is not co-opted by Beck or others who may have ulterior motives.
In a sense you are right. Christianity went from about 500 followers of Jesus to 1 million in a few years with no established church, no Bible, and no hymnals. Indeed, just as it is today in China, Christianity is most powerful when it is totally Christ-centered, without a lot of “guidance” from people, who inevitably want “p@$$ing rights.”
“given that “Glenn Romney” and “Mitt Beck” want to dominate the republicans, this is an important article.”
What do Romney and Beck have to do with eachother, besides Mormonism?
“Look to me like Glen(n) Beck is trying to be the white, male, conservative Oprah”
Maybe, with that “e” to the fourth power (or whatever it’s called) crap, but that’s only the highlight of his show every few episodes or so. The rest of the time he’s weaving insane paranoid fantasies, which is what makes his show popular—certainly it’s what I tune in for—and is decidedly un-Oprah-esque.
“Mahan was a brilliant 19th century naval strategist who wrote ‘The Influence of Sea Power Upon History, 1660-1783’”
Appropos of nothing, I remember once hearing said you could alter the title to “The Influence of History Upon Sea Power” and not alter what you learn one whit.
So Christians are supposed to "just be nice" to people who lead other's astray from God's Word and the truth about our salvation? That makes about as much sense as being too polite to tell someone the bridge ahead is washed out (None of my business, maybe it will be fine when they get there).
Yes, their disaster preparedness plans are terrific. But I'm preparing for a lot longer than the next 30 or 40 years. I'll trust in Jesus, the REAL Jesus, for my preparedness for after this very short life.
“in vast experience, like RomneyCare— they are not to be trusted”
That is a completely idiotic statement, and I can’t believe you even believe it.
Ironic isn’t it? Glenn Beck displays more Christian values and morals than any Christian spewing hate towards him.
Bingo. Mindbender26 on the attack, leftist style.
You do understand that vast numbers of black and white so called “christians” of the communalist leftist christian socialist movement were who put obambi in office. They are at it again, the “true christian” leftists in academia, and in the pulpit- black, white, hispanic... misdirecting the flock to continue to support one-world progressivism. While Beck rails against Wilsonian progressivism, he is working for increased power for one sector of belief. Much like the Kennedys and Irish in Boston and beyond. Religion is political in all reality, so this discussion is of merit as an opposing scriptural view, and examining the interesting nature of Beck’s “conversion”, which is human. Much in the same way Beck has examined Soros. For biblical Christians both these individuals bear watching.
Even as obama goes to brazil to get his cash kickback for his 2012 campaign from Petrobras for preventing any new drilling in the Gulf, per Soros and the US DOE subsidy award to Petrobras, conservatives (big C, small govt.conservatives) need to be vigilant. The leadership void is what is most important to fill. Beck is helpful as an educator to several lost generations, and the Bereans are valid in their spiritual critique and not so much in their political critique.
As a country we learned early NOT to be socialists, nor to put our trust in anything but a limited government. And that government would be limited by the proper actions of people of belief(Federalist Papers), and in fact could not survive without those beliefs and proper self-control. The tent should be big and accepting for this kind of conservatism,and not some competing theocracy. We need another Ronald Reagan.
Well put! I agree wholeheartedly!
Not so! He believes that Jesus Christ was A son of God... just like Lucifer for example. I believe that Jesus is the only Son of God, Beck believes that He is one of many. And this is just for starters, I don't want to move on to other non-Christan beliefs that Mormons hold. And FYI, I don't hate Mormons. I have witnessed to them at every chance I've got.
I thought the same for 20 years until a friend, who is Mormon, said something that was so far out of the ordinary I finally looked into LDS.
There is zero point in arguing we are the same, as I found out.
They don’t believe we are. In fact, their missionaries are well trained in the 3 doctrines they run into while on mission.
That is the Catholic, Protestant and Lutheran doctrines. LDS has a completely different doctrine, divorced from all others and distinctly different.
When you run into a well read and educated Mormon they can explain the difference in doctrine and why theirs is the only one.
They don’t believe you are a Christian. But rather, they are Christian and you worship in an apostate religion and as Joseph Smith and every single prophet of LDS has proclaimed Christians are “Apostates and Whores of Babylon”.
Doesn’t make them bad or me a good person. Just people who have a difference in doctrine. One who believes the Holy Bible is complete, accurate and sufficient, while the other believes the Bible to contain errors, a missing book and worships from to additional books which are considered holy in their faith.
Personally, I am not offended in their view, particularly since I have been reading diligently and learning about LDS for the last two years.
I can provided specifics if required but we can start with “The Pearl of Great Price”.
A friend was telling me the story of the Pearl of Great Price and I became confused, as the version he was telling me I had never heard.
I explained I had never heard that and the story of the Pearl of Great Price is familiar to most Christians as part of the three great parables, with the PoP explaining why works could never get you into heaven or make you more than what God sees us as.
This friend went ballistic and said there was no such thing and the story was unique to LDS scripture alone.
I tried to diffuse the situation saying “It may very well be in LDS scripture but any Christian would be familiar with Mathew 13”. With that I started to tell the three parables.
Guy went through the roof, at that point, and I said “Look may be I don’t understand this correctly. It’s not as if I am a theologian”.
Got him to agree we should change the subject and later I went to Mathew again and there it was plain as day; The Three Parables which are closed out by the “New Testament” version of the the Pearl of Great Price.
I couldn’t believe after all these of years of not even opening a Bible I had recalled, much less retained, the passage.
I have concluded LDS needs to co-opt, plagiarize and denigrate all of Christianity, otherwise why would there be a need for “The Restoration”.
Still, it’s even funnier being a Master Mason, seeing the same ceremonies, rites and rituals you find in Masonry as part of their worthiness program.
None of it’s an accident and they now want to claim they are Christian? After railing all of Christianity for 150 years?
Why?
So they can mainstream their religion while still calling us apostates and whores of Babylon?
No way, man.
Well, let's see. Fishtank is a conservative.
You're running him down.
As Dr. Thorne mentioned, you've gone on the attack vs. Fishtank with the all-purpose leftist word of "hate."
And by your own personal standards (not mine), having now attacked Fishtank, I guess that makes you guilty of violating that standard of love...meaning you must "hate" Fishtank.
That's what's always self-refutingly funny on these threads. So many posters rush into comment like they are some kind of thread ref, postulating upon others' perceived violation of their personal standards.
But if disagreeing = "hate" -- which is what the left's lexicon says ... and if these posters like Mindbender disagree with content posted...well, that means their words apply to themselves. Because as posters, they are not ref-moderators, but "players."
Why don't you try applying your own personal standards to yourself, Mindbender.
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