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The Christ of Mormonism (Real Mormonism)
Mormon Coffee (Mormonism Research Ministry) ^ | March 14, 2011 | Aaron Shafovaloff

Posted on 03/25/2011 9:19:12 AM PDT by Colofornian

Written by a local ex-Mormon Christian friend of mine: —

This is the Christ of Mormonism:

1. He lives as a humanoid god on a star near Kolob along with his father god, bound by the physical world; he does not transcend the material.

2. He is the brother of satan.

3. He had to earn his own salvation while he was on earth.

4. He offers his “grace” only to those who work hard enough.

5. He is not from everlasting to everlasting, but was created a finite time ago by his father god, who in turn was also created by his own father god, who in turn was created by his own father god, so on and so forth

6. He is not the greatest being possible.

7. He is finite.

8. His blood is not powerful enough to wipe away any sin.

9. He aided his father in creating earth by organizing already existing matter; he is not capable of creating things out of nothing.

10. He must submit to a moral law that existed before he did.

11. You can one day become just like him.

This is the Christ of the Bible:

1. He is a spirit being that transcends space and time.

2. He is the brother of no creature; He is God, from everlasting to everlasting. No one can claim kinship with Him except those He purchased for Himself on the cross. And He is not the same type of creature they are. He is not a creature, He is God.

3. Jesus is the Author of Salvation; to say that He needed to earn His salvation is absurdity.

4. He offers His sovereign grace to whomever He sovereignly chooses; we are all tainted by sin and vile in His holy eyes. Therefore, no one is more worthy than any other human being. Thus, His grace that He offers is given unconditionally. His grace is true grace, a beautiful gift.

5. He is from everlasting to everlasting. He was never created, and Has been in relationship with the Father and the Holy Spirit forever.

6. He is the greatest being possible, the Most High God. There is no one like Him and there is no one who will ever be anything like Him.

7. He is infinite, both in essence and in His divine perfections.

8. His blood is powerful enough to wipe away any sin, regardless of heinousness and duration. The only sin that cannot be forgive is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; and this is not because the blood of Christ is not powerful enough to wash it away, but because God has so sovereignly decreed that all persons who blaspheme the Holy Ghost should not receive forgiveness.

9. He created everything that exists out of nothing by the mere word of His mouth.

10. There is no external law that He submits to; He is the Author and the Source of the Law.

11. No one can ever come near to obtaining the glory and excellency of Christ.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Ministry/Outreach; Other Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; christianjihad; evangelicalbigots; jesuschrist; jihad; lds; mormon; notthiscrapagain
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To: delacoert; jimt; All
The "information" is largely slander ... ... Perhaps that information is true but "hurtful". [jimt]

Well, that pretty much covers it - long walk, short pier. [delacoert]

Obama threads on FR...That, info, too "is true" but since "Zero" might deem it "hurtful", I guess that, too is "hurtful."

Same could be said about FR threads about Democrats, Liberals, Romney, and a whole host of other things.

So does JimT come on those threads and judgmentally accuse posters of being hateful, slanderous, & inciting?

JimT has ZERO credibility left on these threads with his "cry wolf" -- which if we applied some of his non-sensical logic to other threads, would treat him with even less respect we have...He'd be a laughingstock trying to protect Zero from "true" but "hurtful" comments.

141 posted on 03/25/2011 3:54:39 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: jimt; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; Tennessee Nana; ...
Hence my calling this Friday's THREE MINUTES HATE.

{Knock...Knock}

{Door opens}....uninvited, two young men in white shirts and ties and nametags (of 52,000 similar young men worldwide) greet the Christian homeowner...

"We have come to tell you about the news that the Gospel of Jesus Christ has been restored after being taken from the earth because no one was worthy to follow Jesus' Apostles until Joseph Smith became a prophet....and to show you how you can spend eternity with your wife and family in the presence of God and Jesus Christ...if only you will join the mormon church and leave your Christian belief behind."

"Just read this book, pray about it and you will receive a message from the Holy Ghost that the only way to salvation is by being baptized and confirmed as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, after which if you obey the rules which govern what you drink, what you wear and how much tithing is required, you MAY be worthy to enter our temple and take part in arcane rituals that will bind God to recognize them and grant you exaltation".

"...oh...you may have to act as a janitor for our buildings in order to become "worthy", but I'm sure that won't be a problem.

THAT IS THREE MINUTES OF HATE!...MULTIPLIED 26,000 TIMES PER DAY.

142 posted on 03/25/2011 4:00:43 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (White House war strategy 2011: Sun Tzu meets Barney Fife..H/T Iowahawk)
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To: greyfoxx39; jimt
"We have come to tell you about the news that the Gospel of Jesus Christ has been restored after being taken from the earth because no one was worthy to follow Jesus' Apostles until Joseph Smith became a prophet....and to show you how you can spend eternity with your wife and family in the presence of God and Jesus Christ...if only you will join the mormon church and leave your Christian belief behind." "Just read this book, pray about it and you will receive a message from the Holy Ghost that the only way to salvation is by being baptized and confirmed as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, after which if you obey the rules which govern what you drink, what you wear and how much tithing is required, you MAY be worthy to enter our temple and take part in arcane rituals that will bind God to recognize them and grant you exaltation".

(You forgot their P.S. they leave on their calling cards: "Hey, don't blame us for slandering all of you Christians as 'apostates'...we're on a mission from the mormon gods.")

143 posted on 03/25/2011 4:13:20 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian; jimt

Yeah. My thoughts exactly.

144 posted on 03/25/2011 4:38:55 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: ichabod1

Joseph Smith the admitted liar? I chose to believe the truth of the Lord God Almighty who never lies, cheats, steels or deceives and is Eternal.


145 posted on 03/25/2011 4:42:35 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Paragon Defender
Nope. The lds jesus is created. The jesus of lds progressed. The jesus of lds is not sufficient, IE lds must work for their salvation.
The Jesus of the Bible is Eternal. The Jesus of the Bible always was and always will be. The Jesus of the Bible is sufficient.
146 posted on 03/25/2011 4:46:34 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: KevinDavis; SZonian

Well, Kev I am going to give you the prize as your response makes zero sense. Z never said what you are accusing them of.
If you have a real point please make it.


147 posted on 03/25/2011 4:54:15 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: ichabod1

Oh, yea. What jesus? The created jesus or the Eternal Jesus?


148 posted on 03/25/2011 4:55:46 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: ichabod1

Heavenly Father? Just whom do you mean?


149 posted on 03/25/2011 4:59:28 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Tread EZ

If you are going to quote me, ping me.
What I would like you to do is explain why what I said is incorrect as all these items (and more) have been documented.


150 posted on 03/25/2011 5:01:23 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: jimt
Because that's what it is. Perhaps that information is true but "hurtful".

Cancer is hurtful too. But you don't not talk about it's destructive effects.
151 posted on 03/25/2011 5:03:10 PM PDT by rickomatic
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To: jimt; Elsie
Really? E posts from official lds sites unlike some lds people who are always barking their unofficial lds blogs and sites.
152 posted on 03/25/2011 5:04:02 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: jimt

Name what was untrue.


153 posted on 03/25/2011 5:04:51 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: jimt
Oh, call the flipping whaaammmmmbulance. Really do lds teach complaining in Sunday School? I do not think I have ever run across people with such thin skin considering what they teach, leaves them wide open for rebuke of their official blasphemy..
154 posted on 03/25/2011 5:08:21 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: jimt

“But there’s a group who post items like this one whose purpose is to defame, slander, incite others to hatred...”

Thanks Jean Dixon for your mind reading gift!


155 posted on 03/25/2011 5:11:50 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (●)(●)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I for one am amused that defame, slander, incite others to hatred can be invoked but simply quoting lds teachings and the documentation to back it up. If you are going to believe this stuff you should be able to defend it, not just post links to unofficial lds excuse sites.
156 posted on 03/25/2011 5:20:57 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: BlueMoose

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBackyardProfessor#p/u/1/bDrSLmrk9wo
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBackyardProfessor#p/u/0/1nN83eEbNUM


157 posted on 03/25/2011 5:35:35 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: greyfoxx39
"We have come to tell you about the news that the Gospel of Jesus Christ has been restored after being taken from the earth because no one was worthy to follow Jesus' Apostles until Joseph Smith became a prophet....

_________________________________________________

Oh GF Thank you..

I have been asking and asking....

"How did Jesus "lose" His Bride"

158 posted on 03/25/2011 5:41:37 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: rickomatic

Excelent point, something worth quoting.


159 posted on 03/25/2011 5:51:05 PM PDT by doc1019 ( The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: doc1019

Excelent = Excellent ... my bad. ;-)


160 posted on 03/25/2011 5:53:53 PM PDT by doc1019 ( The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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