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Local group of Catholics take stand against sex abuse
WAVE ^ | Apr 22, 2011

Posted on 04/22/2011 2:18:48 PM PDT by Gamecock

LOUISVILLE, KY (WAVE) – A local group is taking a stand against sex abuse in the Catholic Church. Concerned Catholics who want to restore integrity say they are appalled the church has not taken more of a proactive approach.

"We've got this black eye because a priest gets convicted or accused of abusing a child," a concerned catholic, Nick Pfeiffer, said. "The archdiocese finds out about it and moves the priest around."

The group says Catholic churches do many great things in the community and they just want the Archdiocese to fight to keep children safe in the church.


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1 posted on 04/22/2011 2:18:54 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; metmom; HarleyD; Dr. Scarpetta; Alex Murphy

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2 posted on 04/22/2011 2:24:00 PM PDT by Gamecock (I didn't reach the top of the food chain just to become a vegetarian.)
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We've got this black eye because a priest gets convicted or accused of abusing a child,"

And let's not forget the harm done to children. < eyes rolling>

3 posted on 04/22/2011 2:25:48 PM PDT by Gamecock (I didn't reach the top of the food chain just to become a vegetarian.)
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To: Gamecock
"We've got this black eye because a priest gets convicted or accused of abusing a child," a concerned catholic, Nick Pfeiffer, said. "The archdiocese finds out about it and moves the priest around."

And this has happened how many times in the archdiocese since January, 2002?

The article doesn't give any concrete information about when this happened, or WRT whom. None.

If a convicted child molester is still in active ministry in Louisville, much less being "moved around," the archbishop needs to resign. If it happened in 1995, it was long before he got there and isn't his fault. Accused molesters shouldn't be in active ministry, either.

4 posted on 04/22/2011 2:33:47 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: Gamecock

The “concerned catholic” makes a good point, he wants his children to be safe from those who promised to protect them.

The victims are abused over and again, first by the assault on their person, then the assault on their faith, next by being blamed for the assaults and finally by having to pay for the wrongs done them out of their donations!


5 posted on 04/22/2011 2:37:37 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Gamecock
The current archbishop of Louisville took office in 2007.

The two most significant sets of abuse cases seem to involve a molester named Clark, who was removed from ministry in 1988, and a molester named Miller. Miller's abuse seemed to occur mostly in the 1970's, but he was not removed from ministry until relatively recently. I don't have a date, but it was under the previous archbishop, Kelly, not the current one, Kurtz.

Still waiting for any abusers currently in active ministry who have just been "moved around" by the current archbishop.

6 posted on 04/22/2011 2:45:46 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: Gamecock
I once believed that only Catholics committed sexual crimes against children, then I found this. Shocking.
7 posted on 04/22/2011 2:52:28 PM PDT by keat
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To: Gamecock

Most of the abuses happened 20 or 30 years ago.

This “concerned Catholic,” Nick Pfeiffer, is the son of Cal Pfeiffer, who has apparently made a profession out of this. As he mentions in another article, it has cost the diocese something like $90 million in lawsuits. I don’t know if these guys are ambulance chasers or working with ambulance chasers, but this appears to be a new “group” formed in support of a notorious older group called SNAP.

Here’s an extract from the other article:


LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — A new clergy abuse support group in Louisville says it wants to give guidance to sexual abuse victims and urge Catholic laity to demand more openness from church leaders.

The group, Protect the Children, held a news conference Thursday with victims and other activists who have organized past protests against the church. Leaders say they want to raise money to support new victims who come forward and to protect priests who may jeopardize their standing in the church by providing information.

“We want to start a new movement and bring people in that are Catholic, that are frustrated with the church,” said Nick Pfeiffer, who helped start the group. “We don’t want to sue, we’re not here for money, we want to fix the problem for good.”

Pfeiffer’s father, Cal Pfeiffer, is also a member of the new group and he has been active for years as part of the Louisville chapter of Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, or SNAP.


Yes, there were abuses. And they have been corrected. And they have been paid for, and paid for, and paid for, through the efforts of guys like this who have made it a lifetime profession. Indeed, apparently, a two lifetimes’ profession.


8 posted on 04/22/2011 2:57:50 PM PDT by Cicero
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And now, as he says, they want to raise money to bring lawsuits to raise more money. Yeah, sure, completely disinterested.


9 posted on 04/22/2011 2:59:40 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: Gamecock

No respect for Good Friday from the dark side crew. I shouldn’t be surprised.


10 posted on 04/22/2011 3:12:15 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: count-your-change

“The victims are abused over and again, first by the assault on their person, then the assault on their faith, next by being blamed for the assaults and finally by having to pay for the wrongs done them out of their donations!”

Thank you for saying that.


11 posted on 04/22/2011 3:12:15 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: buccaneer81

Yep.

Satan thought he had his greatest victory on Good Friday. Some here like to keep in his tradition.

I’m not arguing with them today.


12 posted on 04/22/2011 3:28:09 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: WPaCon

Agreed.


13 posted on 04/22/2011 3:31:41 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

They hate us will always hate us and would urinate on us if we were on fire.


14 posted on 04/22/2011 3:35:32 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Campion

Agreed.

How many times has it happened in the Roman Catholic Church world wide would have been a better question!


15 posted on 04/22/2011 3:38:09 PM PDT by Gamecock (I didn't reach the top of the food chain just to become a vegetarian.)
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To: buccaneer81

***No respect for Good Friday from the dark side crew. I shouldn’t be surprised.***

Thanks for validating my thread. How does speaking up against the raping of children equal lack of respect for Good Friday. Only in the Catholic mind does standing is for right synonymous with disrespect... < eyes rolling>


16 posted on 04/22/2011 3:42:02 PM PDT by Gamecock (I didn't reach the top of the food chain just to become a vegetarian.)
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To: Gamecock

“We’ve got this black eye because a priest gets convicted or accused of abusing a child,” a concerned catholic, Nick Pfeiffer, said. “The archdiocese finds out about it and moves the priest around.”

What? How often did any bishop move around CONVICTED sex offenders?


17 posted on 04/22/2011 3:43:22 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: count-your-change

You wrote:

“The victims are abused over and again, first by the assault on their person, then the assault on their faith,”

No one is assaulting their faith.

” next by being blamed for the assaults”

When has that EVER happened on the part of the Church?

“and finally by having to pay for the wrongs done them out of their donations!”

Except that isn’t what has been done. Insurance pay outs are not really from your donations. Donations go to the parish overwhelmingly and not the diocese nor the insurance company.


18 posted on 04/22/2011 3:46:29 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: Gamecock

You wrote:

“How does speaking up against the raping of children equal lack of respect for Good Friday.”

No Catholic here believes you’re “speaking up against the raping of children”. With your past history of hatred here there’s simply no way you can pass off what you do as an act of love for Catholics in general or concern for children specifically. If “you will know them by their love”, then we know you by your hate.


19 posted on 04/22/2011 3:49:45 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: Gamecock
I once believed that only Catholics committed sexual crimes against children, then I found this. Shocking.
20 posted on 04/22/2011 3:59:36 PM PDT by keat
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