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Atheists Seek Chaplain Role in the Military
The New York Times ^ | April 26, 2011 | James Dao

Posted on 04/27/2011 2:59:57 PM PDT by arderkrag

FAYETTEVILLE, N.C. — In the military, there are more than 3,000 chaplains who minister to the spiritual and emotional needs of active duty troops, regardless of their faiths. The vast majority are Christians, a few are Jews or Muslims, one is a Buddhist. A Hindu, possibly even a Wiccan may join their ranks soon.

But an atheist?

Strange as it sounds, groups representing atheists and secular humanists are pushing for the appointment of one of their own to the chaplaincy, hoping to give voice to what they say is a large — and largely underground — population of nonbelievers in the military.

Joining the chaplain corps is part of a broader campaign by atheists to win official acceptance in the military. Such recognition would make it easier for them to raise money and meet on military bases. It would help ensure that chaplains, religious or atheist, would distribute their literature, advertise their events and advocate for them with commanders.

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TOPICS: General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Skeptics/Seekers
KEYWORDS: atheist; chaplain; military
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To: arderkrag

I’m not going to question the motivations of any atheist who serves our country honorably... I just, from a religious perspective, how you can “minister” to people who by their own admission are not religious?


21 posted on 04/27/2011 6:39:16 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: arderkrag

Someone needs to remind these atheists that dying soldiers beseech for two things: Mom and God. Both love the dying soldier, both will mourn their death and both would rejoice the eternal salvation if the dying soldier was committed to God before his passing.

Our enemies fanatically believe their death in combat is truly rewarded in Paradise. This is why they are so dangerous.


22 posted on 04/27/2011 7:54:36 PM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: arderkrag
During my time in the Corps, the chaplains I knew could pinch hit for any other team in the League.

Remember the photo of the LT CMDR Joseph T. O'Callahan on board the USS Franklin, praying with the burned sailor?

Somehow, I can't see some half-assed Commie atheist giving the Last Rights to a Sailor with a shattered liver and then saying Kaddish over a Marine with both legs gone.

23 posted on 04/27/2011 10:26:41 PM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: jonascord

Thanks for your service.


24 posted on 04/28/2011 5:50:17 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: arderkrag; LiteKeeper; P-Marlowe; Kolokotronis; blue-duncan; wagglebee; wmfights; Lancey Howard
As a military chaplain (retired), I can see a few problems with this. First, Congress (via military regulations) has determined that any chaplain must be endorsed to the chaplaincy by an agency representing their denominational ministers. IOW, they have to have sufficient organization to agree on a review board that looks at both denominational qualifications and physical/mental qualifications of those fit to serve on active duty. The atheists would have to come up with such an agency and some review process about qualifications of a group that doesn't yet exist. (Not saying they can't get that together, but it could take some time.)

2. The atheist chaplain would have to provide general religious support to those not of his faith group. IOW, he'd have to help the catholic soldier get catholic help, and the baptist soldier get baptist help, etc., etc. He would NOT be permitted to tell them to take a hike.

3. He is also required by law to conduct worship for his faith group. I don't think there is any doctrinal consensus among atheists on what that would even begin to look like. Additionally, he'd have to arrange for such worship for those not in his faith group when in a job that requires him to be with soldiers.

4. He is to provide counsel to the commander on matters of morale as touched by religion. He is to provide/arrange counseling for families, individuals, etc. He is to conduct weddings, funerals, etc. All of these things would have to be redefined.

5. Finally, he is to be a symbol of hope in darkest hours that speak of death. His symbol would be "kiss your ass goodbye, 'cause once you bite the dust here, it's all over there, too."

25 posted on 04/28/2011 10:59:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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26 posted on 04/28/2011 11:21:13 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: xzins

HOOAH!


27 posted on 04/28/2011 7:30:03 PM PDT by LiteKeeper ("Who is John Galt?")
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To: EasySt

er...not trying to start a Holy War but I completely disagree. Atheism is about not having enough proof to believe...nothing more.


28 posted on 05/24/2011 11:35:11 PM PDT by YoungBlackRepublican
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