Posted on 05/21/2011 4:46:26 AM PDT by marbren
Camping is a victim of replacement theology. IMHO the lie of replacement theology is almost as insidious as idolatry. The key to holistic understanding of Bible prophecy is to understand the role of Israel in it. God keeps his promises to Israel. This is a model to the rest of us that he will keep his promises to us as well.
A majority of the church going world has been victimized. I believed the lie for 35 years. During the past 20 I have been seeking the truth and only recently did I stop saying IMHO replacement theology is a lie and replaced it with: Replacement theology is a lie dropping the IMHO. For those that do not know, Replacement theology is the lie that the Church has replaced Israel in God’s plan.
The church was polluted by Replacement theology early on. Origen and Augustine, early Fathers of the church, were the first to muddy up the scriptures in this way when they arrogantly took on the mantle of Israel for themselves. Martin Luther apparently did not study it and this lead to his anti-Semitism and Hitler. In many ways IMHO it is like a reverse of the circumcision party that led to Acts 15.
This replacement theology lie has lead to the church we have today. Everyone is running around not knowing what is happening in these end times we are in. The truth is The Church, the Bride of Christ, has a role and Israel has a role. Think of men and women, children and parents, husbands and wives, angels and people, dogs and cats, sheep and goats, wheat and tares. All these have roles God invented.
So the solution: Open your Bible, drop your preconceived notions and open your mind, ask God to reveal the truth about all this Israel stuff written in the Bible. The Lord Jesus Christ is central in it all. Gods Grace and Mercy is incredible, He does all the work. Faith and hope and love permeate the entire Bible and the greatest of these is love.
Anyway, the Holy Spirit wrote:
But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. (Matthew 24:36)
By declaring a date for the Rapture, Harold Camping deliberately and knowingly disobeyed God and played into Satan's hands. Therefore, the intention to disobey God and do evil was most certainly in his heart.
Your raptureready.com site is no better than Camping.
When you can start backing up your beliefs with Scripture, then you can criticize others.
Satan has been bound at the Cross, he can’t frustrate Jesus and His plan of salvation.
Look in the mirror, Union...look in the mirror and behold! See yourself there.
And that should apply to everyone who has ever lived since Jesus died, right?
But there is one little problem. God says:
Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. (1 Peter 5:8)
So according to the Holy Spirit, Satan is not bound but roams the earth.
As usual, I'm going to go with what God says.
Hello Star Traveler I missed you! I would love your take on my OP.
Do you approve of the gay lifestyle described as sin in the Old Testament? How about same-sex marriage? The sects embracing these throw out 'the law' too.
i’m going with Rev 20. Jesus said in Matthew 12:29 “or else how can one enter into a strong man’s house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house”
Jesus bound the strong man Satan at the cross and the Church has been spoiling his house ( the pagan nations ) for 2,000 years.
Do you think Satan is the only reason everyone isn’t saved? don’t you know the heart of man is desperately wicked, who can know it? Man is seperated from God due to sin, not Satan. Jesus reconciles us to God in His Body, which is the Church. private interpertation of Scripture leads one to all kinds of weird theology.
Somehow I doubt that very much.
Do you approve of the gay lifestyle described as sin in the Old Testament? How about same-sex marriage? The sects embracing these throw out 'the law' too.
So "sects" that embrace homosexuality have repented at the foot of the Cross, know Christ as Savior, have personal relationships with Him, seek to live His will for their lives, and renounce all that He has called abomination?
Wow, you learn something new every day.
When giving speeches to his Nazi and German supporters he mentioned God and Jesus and Christianity repeatedly.
Read his speeches. Read his writings. If you can stomach them. They are about on par with the Unibomber Manifesto or Earth in the Balance in my mind - the ravings of a fanatic.
What he believed in his heart of hearts is open to debate.
What he said in his speeches and wrote in his book are not.
Calling me a liar?
I'm saying a homosexual who takes Holy Communion is as unworthy as Judas.
my dear friend, your actions reveal what is in your heart. speeches are worthless, look at obama if you need proof. i don’t care how many times he mentioned God, Jesus or Christianity, his actions showed he believed none of it!!!
why, homosexuals can’t eat bread?
Then you'll have a Scriptural explanation, I'm sure, for the ascension of Islam and the fact that Islam is steadily taking over pagan Europe, that more and more European nations are allowing Sharia law to circumvent their own laws, that the United States of America is legalizing homosexual "marriage" in more and more states, that the elected-by-the-majority president is turning on Israel in direct disobedience to God - I could go on but that's a decent start. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the Church has been "spoiling" pagan nations. The truth is that "paganism" in all it's forms is gaining strength, just like Jesus said it would right before His return, and the Church not only is not stopping it, but is powerless to stop it.
The idea that the Church will "Christianize" the world is a false doctrine that cannot be supported by Scripture and is proven false by the reality in the world today.
According to Jesus Christ, Satan is not bound until after the seven-year Tribulation and after Jesus literally returns to earth:
1Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2And he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3and he threw him into the abyss, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed; after these things he must be released for a short time. (Revelation 20:1-3)
So not only does God say that in this present Age Satan roams the earth, but God then says that Satan will not be bound until Christ literally returns.
Why do you think that Scripture consistently contradict your doctrine?
But there was a strong current of antisemitism present in Germany that he tapped into making reference to “my Saviors blood upon the cross”.
He called them “capitalists” to appeal to atheist socialist antisemitism.
There wasn't and wouldn't have been a current of thought that he wouldn't have appealed to - in my opinion - that could drum up antisemetic sentiment.
Luther tapped into the same sentiment in his book “On the Jews and their Lies”.
But I wouldn't go around blaming Hitler on Luther - that is a Godwin's Rule leap that should be beyond any rational mind.
So far you have failed to demonstrate with Scripture that your beliefs have anything to do with what Jesus has told us about salvation and I doubt very much that you and your Bible study will change that.
I'm saying a homosexual who takes Holy Communion is as unworthy as Judas.
A practicing homosexual does not know Christ as Savior and will spend eternity in hell no matter how many times he takes communion.
there is no literal seven year tribulation period. Islam is the product of wicked, sinful men. i never said the world would be “christianized”. we are in the thousand year period today, it just isn’t a literal 1,000 years. Scripture doesn’t contradict my doctrine, it’s what Christians have believed for 2,000 years. you apparently accepted this “pre-trib” rapture nonsense that was invented in the 19th century.
Do you approve of the breakneck acceptance of homosexuality by churches all over? Do you see wisdom in Lev 18:22 “ ‘Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable?
evil men will say whatever they have to, or blame whoever they have to, in order to perform their evil deeds. Hitler is Exhibit A.
Agree 100%
absolutely not, i view the emergence of homosexuality as one of the signs the end is near. the biggest sign is the great apostosy ( falling away ) that is happening in the Catholic Church. the end won’t happen until Satan is loosed, the abomination that causes desolation will be sitting in the holy place ( ruling the Church ), there will be a great falling away to such an extent that Jesus asked whether He would find any faith on earth when He returned. the acceptance of homosexuality is shocking and proof Jesus must return soon.
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