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1 posted on 06/03/2011 2:06:12 PM PDT by NYer
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This is what the sodomites want to do to the Boy Scouts.


2 posted on 06/03/2011 2:07:59 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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Sadly, he’s right. Once upon a time, Catholics were not allowed to join the Boy or Girl Scouts and had their own alternatives and, eventually, special chapters.

One of the original reasons for this was that Scouting was very anti-Catholic (founded by what would now be considered Evangelical Protestants, during their late 19th-early 20th century “muscular Christianity” phase) and also that it was devoted to the secular religion.

Sadly, yesterday’s secular religion looks like total Christian orthodoxy compared to what they are pushing today. And the Evangelicals have abandoned it, too, so the only folks left (at any rate, those in charge) are complete secularists.

We need to revive the Scouting alternatives.


5 posted on 06/03/2011 2:19:34 PM PDT by livius
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25 years ago, I was a girl scout leader. This would never be discussed with my scouts.


6 posted on 06/03/2011 2:19:51 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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I refuse to buy Girl Scout cookies.............

In fact next yeear, I’ll tell them WHY!!!!


7 posted on 06/03/2011 2:20:03 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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It's sorrowful news but true: the Girl Scouts even reportedly have some kind of "responsible sexuality" merit badge, which is not about valuing a pure body and a pure heart, not about the sanctity of sex within marriage, but includes pro-contraceptive and anti-family slant ("be safe and responsible", i.e. know how to select the contraceptives that's right for you, "only you can decide when you're ready" i.e. not your parents, not even the laws concerning the age of consent! Faith and family, church teachings, parental values and marriage have no authority, "only you"!

Would they take such an equivocating attitude toward cigarettes? ("Don't smoke until you feel ready"?) Bulimia? ("It has dangers, but many young women have made this decision and here's how you can prqctice safer bulimia"?)

Parents of girls teach them to resist the Lady Gaga mentality, and now they have to teach them to resist the Girl Scouts?

It's insidious.

8 posted on 06/03/2011 2:20:51 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am...)
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To: NYer

Kathryn Jean Lopez, over at NRO, wrote about this back in October 2000.

http://old.nationalreview.com/23oct00/lopez102300.shtml


10 posted on 06/03/2011 3:26:30 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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""The good about Girl Scouting, and a caution" by Most Rev. James D. Conley

June 1, 2011 - For many Catholics, Scouting is one of the best memories of childhood—and for good reason.  It’s a time of fun, friendship and adventure. That was certainly my own Boy Scout experience.

Logo World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts (WAGGGS)At its best, Scouting forms the young person in a spirit of service. It creates a sense of duty to the wider community.  It also builds character and cultivates civic virtue.

So it’s no surprise that many Catholic parishes sponsor Boy and Girl Scout troops.  And they’ve done so, with great results, for decades. Plus, when it comes to the Girl Scouts, who can argue with the best cookies in the world?

Over the past year though, a growing number of Catholic parents and youth ministers have shared a concern with me.  And it deserves some discussion.

Their unease involves the Girl Scouts, and especially the World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts (WAGGGS).

Youth ministers are quick to note that Scouting’s structure allows for a lot of autonomy. Girls make up local troops.  Troops make up councils. And nationwide councils make up Girl Scouts USA (GSUSA). 

GSUSA and a few other large organizations make up WAGGGS. Each local council or troop determines what’s appropriate for its specific needs.  Each troop leader decides what members see. 

Nonetheless, what happens at the international and national levels of Scouting has an important trickle-down effect. This is exactly why “pro-choice” organizations have worked to develop connections with the Scouting movement. 

Parents would be wise to spend some serious time browsing the WAGGGS (www.wagggsworld.org) and GSUSA websites, following the links they find there, and examining for themselves how these organizations deal with sexuality, “choice” and reproductive issues. It may be a sobering experience.

As one youth minister recently wrote:

“It’s hard to imagine that a girl who remains involved with Girl Scouts into young adulthood won’t eventually learn of the connections her organization has with ‘pro-choice’, pro-contraception and ‘reproductive freedom’ groups. 

Having been influenced by GSUSA, she’ll be more receptive to this agenda.  And if she was introduced to GSUSA through her parents and her local parish, then that will inevitably create contradictions between her Catholic faith and her Scouting experience.”

The many good things offered by Girl Scouting in Colorado deserve praise from the Catholic community. Scouting and the Church have always had, and hopefully will continue to have for many years, a very positive relationship.

But parents, as the primary educators of their children, have every right to insist that their beliefs, especially their moral and religious beliefs, be respected—not undermined—by the organizations to which they entrust their children. 

Parents need to remain alert to the content of their daughters’ activities. And Catholics involved in the Girl Scouting movement should make it clear to leadership that Scouting is only a means to an end—the proper formation of young character.

It’s not an end in itself; and should Scouting ever fail in that proper formation, other groups can be found or formed to take its place.

** The Register editors welcome comments about Scouting in general and the Girl Scouts in particular; the experiences of parents with Scouting; and examples of Scouting at its best. Email editor@archden.org.

Most Rev. James D. Conley is auxiliary bishop of the Denver Archdiocese.""

13 posted on 06/03/2011 4:09:04 PM PDT by iowamark
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Gave up the Girl Scouts decades ago and now refuse to buy the cookies.

I have a friend who was related to Juliet Lowe and she said that even before Ms. Lowe died she was ashamed of what the scouts had become.

14 posted on 06/03/2011 4:23:22 PM PDT by Desdemona ( If trusting the men in the clergy was a requirement for Faith, there would be no one in the pews.)
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I would not allow my daughters to be in Girl Scouts — and that was a long time ago. Even then I could see they were drifting left.


20 posted on 06/04/2011 7:01:15 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Gosh, I miss Thin Mints. I won’t even eat them when a co-worker leaves a box out, because I refuse to reciprocate. Somewhere I’ve got a recipe for imitation, but I know they won’t be the same.


21 posted on 06/04/2011 11:08:22 AM PDT by nina0113
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22 posted on 06/04/2011 11:10:23 AM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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Why do we allow the continued existence of Planned Parenthood?

There are enough sane people in this country to make it go away, and I don’t mean by waiting for congress to act.


26 posted on 06/04/2011 5:34:59 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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Pinged from Terri Dailies


42 posted on 06/05/2011 11:01:33 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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That’s not the way I remember Girl Scouts.


52 posted on 06/06/2011 1:09:55 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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there are about 17 girl scout councils in the USA that have a direct affiliation with Planned Parenthood while many others support planned parenthood and are pro-abortion and pro-lesbian, roughly 30% of the GSA’s professional staff are lesbians.

NO Catholic Parish should be affiliated with the Girl Scouts.


54 posted on 06/23/2011 7:01:14 PM PDT by Coleus (Adult Stem Cells Work, there is NO Need to Harvest Babies for Their Body Parts!)
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