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Daniel-in-lionís-den moment for new Catholic archbishop of free-wheeling Berlin
Faith World ^ | July 6, 2011

Posted on 07/06/2011 12:48:09 PM PDT by NYer

Like Daniel in the lion’s den, Berlin’s new Catholic archbishop met the media on Tuesday to face accusations he was homophobic and far too conservative for such a prominent post in the free-wheeling German capital. Rainer Maria Woelki, a surprise choice for the high-profile post, professed respect for gays, denied membership in the staunchly conservative Opus Dei group and said he did not come to Berlin to point a censuring finger at non-Catholics.

Berlin’s gay community and liberal media reacted with dismay to his appointment last week, saying the Cologne-based prelate was “backwards-minded” and the wrong man for the job. But interest in the new prelate was so strong that the Catholic Church, a minority of about 390,000 in a 3.5 million population mostly indifferent or hostile to religion, had to switch the news conference to a larger hall at the last minute to accomodate over 100 journalists who turned out.

“We will meet with each other,” Woelki, 54, said when asked about the city’s active gay community. “I have respect and esteem for all people independent of heritage, skin colour and individual nature. I am open to all without reservations.” Describing himself simply as Catholic, he denied being a member of Opus Dei despite having done his doctorate at the group’s Pontifical University of the Holy Cross in Rome. That part of his biography led to media reports over the weekend calling him “reactionary.”

“The Church is not a moral institution that goes around pointing its finger at people,” Woelki said. “The Church is for me a community of seekers and believers and the Church would like to help people find their hapiness in life.”

The left-wing daily Tageszeitung said it had expected the worst from Woelki’s premiere but concluded: “You can talk with the man of God.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: berlin; germany
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St. Hedwig's Catholic Cathedral in Berlin, 20 June 2009
1 posted on 07/06/2011 12:48:14 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer
Looks like his words are already being twisted.

I'd like to see a German transcript.

2 posted on 07/06/2011 12:50:19 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Bishop Rainer Maria Woelki

Until his new assignment, Woelki was an auxiliary bishop in Cologne to Cardinal Joachim Meisner, an arch-conservative with close ties to German-born Pope Benedict. He was hardly known outside that western German city, where he was born. Woelki’s Opus Dei aademic credentials, link to Meisner and statements reaffirming the Church view that homosexual acts are sinful sparked off a storm in Berlin.

Uh-oh! A societal non conformist.

3 posted on 07/06/2011 12:51:14 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

**Woelki’s Opus Dei aademic credentials,**

He conservative if he’s Opus Dei


4 posted on 07/06/2011 12:54:27 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

**Woelki’s Opus Dei aademic credentials,**

He’s conservative if he’s Opus Dei


5 posted on 07/06/2011 12:54:37 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: wideawake

The RC needs to get serious about confronting sodomites, both inside and outside the RC.


6 posted on 07/06/2011 12:58:53 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: NYer
Don't you just love it when the libs get upset when a REAL Catholic is actually appointed in the Church hierarchy?
7 posted on 07/06/2011 12:58:54 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Can you afford to board the Chattanooga Choo-Choo?)
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To: Salvation

But he’s not. They have to qualify “Opus Dei credentials” with “academic.” He’s not a member of Opus Dei but they need a smear, so they reached for the fact that his degree is from an Opus Dei university. Cheap shot, typical Leftist cheap shot.


8 posted on 07/06/2011 12:59:06 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Salvation

Imagine my surprise. Pope appoints a Catholic. Who’d’a thunk it?!


9 posted on 07/06/2011 1:05:12 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Non plaudite. Modo pecuniam jacite." - - Don't applaud. ....Just throw money)
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To: NYer
>>“The Church is not a moral institution that goes around pointing its finger at people,” Woelki said.<<

Now there’s a feller rooted in scripture. /s

10 posted on 07/06/2011 2:11:19 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: NYer

The church certainly doesn’t need any homophobes, but what it sure could use are a whole bunch more “homophobes.”


11 posted on 07/06/2011 2:20:39 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Mrs. Don-o

But in bastions of Sodomite culture like most large liberal West European cities around the world and in the US and Australia, appointing Bishops who are serious about the Catholic Catechism is considered an act of war. They’d rather endure a 9/11 than have the central planks of this culture questioned and found to be depraved. Look what happened yesterday when an Indian Minister of Health called homosexuality a gay disease.


12 posted on 07/06/2011 2:26:56 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: CynicalBear
I doubt that Woelki' total ecclesiology is reflected in that one line -- (((rolls eyes)) --- but it's true that the Church's main job is extending the Good News of Christ's gift of salvation to every person. Its ffirst and essential mission is winning souls, not condemnation.

Recommended reading: 1 Corinthian 13>

That is not to say that moral judgment is unnecessary; far from it. The reason Woelki is being ambushed by the gays with their typical crudity and fury is that he represents and expresses a moral judment against sin. And after "neither do I condemn you" comes "Go now, and sin no more." (John 8:11). Still, he is right when he says, like Jesus, that "I did not come to judge the world, but to save it."

That's John 12:46. For fellers who are rooted in Scripture.

13 posted on 07/06/2011 2:59:49 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Show me one who loves: he knows what I mean." St. Augustine)
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To: Steelfish

Exactly.


14 posted on 07/06/2011 3:00:42 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Show me one who loves: he knows what I mean." St. Augustine)
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To: CynicalBear; NYer

sure wish he would have mentioned Jesus Christ when describing what the Church is.
is there one bishop left in the world that is not ashamed of the Gospel???
the reason the Church exists is for the salvation of lost souls, not to make people “happy”
the falling away continues on course......


15 posted on 07/06/2011 3:04:06 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: NYer
statements reaffirming the Church view that homosexual acts are sinful

ONZ, anything but that!

16 posted on 07/06/2011 3:06:26 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is a revolution, damn it! We're going to have to offend somebody!" ~ John Adams)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
See #13.
17 posted on 07/06/2011 3:06:56 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Show me one who loves: he knows what I mean." St. Augustine)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

so if the gays find their “hapiness in life” having sexual relations with each other, is he going to help them do it?

his statement certainly leads me to that conclusion.

“....and the Church would like to help people find their hapiness in their life”

why didn’t he say the Church would like to help people find Jesus Christ in their life?


18 posted on 07/06/2011 3:15:13 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Mrs. Don-o
>>I doubt that Woelki' total ecclesiology is reflected in that one line -- (((rolls eyes))<<

Yeah right. That’s why he followed it with this line.

“The Church is for me a community of seekers and believers and the Church would like to help people find their hapiness in life.”

That’s the Church purpose for him? To help people find happiness? Not salvation, not conviction of sin and repentance, and not spiritual guidance but to find happiness in this world.

19 posted on 07/06/2011 3:18:57 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

CB, it pains me to say, but you are 100000% correct. AMEN, AMEN, AMEN.

“.....not salvation, not conviction of sin and repentance and not spiritual guidance....”

i had to repeat your words because i wish i said them!!


20 posted on 07/06/2011 3:24:37 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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