Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Biblical comfort for gay Christians {'born-again', UCC}
Journal News ^ | 1 August 2011 | Richard O jones

Posted on 08/02/2011 1:27:35 AM PDT by Cronos

Janice Robinson is a dental hygienist and for a time worked at a dental office in the Cincinnati neighborhood of Hyde Park.

For reasons she could never quite fathom, she seemed to have a following of gay patients who would ask for her specifically when they made their appointments. Some of them would bring her cookies and other treats, and though she brought them home to her family, she wouldn’t eat them herself because, she said, they had “gay cooties.” “I was ‘Miss Pompous’,” she says now. “I believed that anyone outside my tunnel-vision is not a good person, and I associate my anti-gay feelings with my religious upbringing. I just grew up that way.”

Robinson was raised Catholic, she said, and was “born again” in her 20s. Since then, she’s attended Nazarene, Methodist and Vineyard churches, but none of them helped her broaden her world view, she said.

So eight years ago, when her son Carl Schottmiller came out as a gay man during his senior year of high school, that world view was set askew, and it’s taken her a long time to come around.

“I cried for three months,” she said. “When I told my sister, she scoffed. ‘We knew since he was 5 years old,’ she said.

“So it was OK with my family. With my Christian friends, not so much. I only heard my son would burn in hell for his homosexuality.”

(Excerpt) Read more at journal-news.com ...


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Evangelical Christian
KEYWORDS: homonaziagenda; homosexualagenda; liberalprotestantism; ucc
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-38 next last
was “born again” in her 20s. Since then, she’s attended Nazarene, Methodist and Vineyard churches, but none of them helped her broaden her world view, she said

Church-shopping....

1 posted on 08/02/2011 1:27:38 AM PDT by Cronos
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Cronos

was “born again” in her 20s. Since then, she’s attended Nazarene, Methodist and Vineyard churches, but none of them helped her broaden her world view, she said

It’s not a church’s job to do that, that’s your own personal struggle. Just because I had to know some prejudiced individuals happened to be members of my own church, didn’t mean it wasn’t worth doing. We’re sick sinners, and Jesus is the doctor. In fact, te fact that people need to be counseled a little bit is a sign that church is where it needs to be.


2 posted on 08/02/2011 1:36:09 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cronos
she wouldn’t eat them herself because, she said, they had “gay cooties.”

The Word tells us not to eat/live with them.

Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas.

3 posted on 08/02/2011 1:46:16 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rawcatslyentist

Funny. Jesus ate and lived with sinners.


4 posted on 08/02/2011 2:44:43 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: rawcatslyentist

Please correct me if I’m wrong but I believe the prohibition aganst eating is with someone who claims to be a “brother” but is still living an unrepentantly immoral life.


5 posted on 08/02/2011 3:22:27 AM PDT by tal hajus (ever the cynic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: rawcatslyentist
Hmm...that Jesus feller spent a lot of time among them sinners I do believe.

Washing dirty feet and forgiving those who sinned.

Seems to be what I read.


But here you can see what happened when she let her boy eat them "Gay Cookies"....lol!
6 posted on 08/02/2011 3:42:10 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: tal hajus

Matthew 18:15-17 says how to deal with a brother who refuses to repent from sin.


7 posted on 08/02/2011 4:01:59 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Tainan
Hmm...that Jesus feller spent a lot of time among them sinners I do believe. Washing dirty feet and forgiving those who sinned. Seems to be what I read.

Spot on Tainan, except these days society seems to equate forgiveness of sin with acceptance of sin. Homosexuals need our love, but more importantly they need the love and Truth of Jesus Christ. At some point the rubber has to meet the road, and the sin of homosexual behavior must be discussed. Speak the truth in love and let the chips fall where they may. Kharis13

8 posted on 08/02/2011 4:05:18 AM PDT by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: CalvaryJohn
"Jesus ate and lived with sinners."

Sinner that sought repentance - He wasn't so keen on Scribes and Pharises - vipers and hypocrites He called them who were so blinded by their own pride.
Ministery outreach to sinners (drug addicts, homosexuals, etc.) is different - we are to show them the Love of Christ and lead them to a place of desiring repentance - or shake the dust off our sandals and move on to the next ones....

9 posted on 08/02/2011 4:10:24 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Kharis13

Amen brother!

God stated very clearly that choosing a homosexual lifestyle is a sin and an abomination.

Yet the “cafeteria” Christians who pick and choose what words to follow like choosing from restaurant menu continue to deny His word and attempt to tell us their homoexual lifestyle is normal and Christian.

Sadly, I have been attacked on C4P by stating God’s word on this subject.


10 posted on 08/02/2011 4:16:25 AM PDT by newfreep (I am Sarah Palin!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Cronos

Did she read her Bible before she left for the gay friendly Church? Does she read it now? When I don’t like what I hear from the hired help, I ask for the owner. The Lord has expressed his opinion on most things, but most of us are too lazy to seek it out.


11 posted on 08/02/2011 4:43:09 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kharis13
Brings up an interesting question.
Does it mention anywhere in the Bible about Jesus having any dealings with those of the lavender robe and/or comfortable sandal persuasion?
12 posted on 08/02/2011 4:53:11 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Morpheus2009

Born again? Sounds to me like she was never truly a new creation-just dissatisfied with whatever she was looking for in a church. One cannot compromise what is written in Scripture from Genesis 1: to the Revelation of Jesus Christ.
Sexual Orientation remains just that an orientation changing the words we use cannot change the sin nor the abomination.
That being said as a father whose only son is caught in that web of homosexual deception and destruction I love him -but I cannot condone nor embrace nor take pleasure in the lifestyle he has chosen. He will either repent and seek God and be reconciled —or he will die in his sin.I cannot compromise what is written.


13 posted on 08/02/2011 5:19:55 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: CalvaryJohn

IMO Jesus makes manifest the truth He was in the world but not of the world.And I doubt any can show me where Jesus that Rabbi form Nazareth was EVER unequally yoked to unbelievers.
Problem is neither you -nor I nor any other creation is Jesus. How often are we tempted of the world— and surrender. How often do we -in the name of LOVE embrace the sinner and because we are afraid we might offend —Knowing of the consuming fire NEVER tell our neighbors the TRUTH. Instead we are brought down by the cares of the world. Jesus did eat with sinners- I am not confident any could live in HIS presence and remain a sinner.


14 posted on 08/02/2011 5:26:50 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Cronos
Raised Catholic, then attended Nazarene, Methodist and Vineyard ... and she doesn't have a broad world view?

Something is wrong there ... lol

15 posted on 08/02/2011 6:39:35 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CalvaryJohn
Jesus ate and lived with sinners.

And He never said anything as insensitive as "go and sin no more." < /sarc>

16 posted on 08/02/2011 6:43:03 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Cronos
‘We knew since he was 5 years old,’

Oh hogwash.

17 posted on 08/02/2011 7:00:17 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CalvaryJohn
Jesus ate and lived with sinners.

He did so to call them to repentance, not to affirm their sinful life.

18 posted on 08/02/2011 7:24:20 AM PDT by aimhigh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Tainan
Does it mention anywhere in the Bible about Jesus having any dealings with those of the lavender robe

Stupid question. Are you also going to ask if Jesus dealt with pedophilia? Or sex with animals? 1 Thess 4:1-8 includes all sexual sins, including those of the lavender persuasion. Jesus told the woman at the well to go and sin no more.

19 posted on 08/02/2011 7:28:54 AM PDT by aimhigh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: aimhigh
Stupid question. Are you also going to ask if Jesus dealt with pedophilia? Or sex with animals? 1 Thess 4:1-8 includes all sexual sins, including those of the lavender persuasion. Jesus told the woman at the well to go and sin no more.

That question seems to have punched a few of your buttons. Not its intention.
I was asking a sincere question - Does the Bible, KJV New Testament of course, directly mention any scenes where Jesus has an encounter with homosexuals?

I don't recall any. I know full well of other passages that condemn the sin; just asking that specific question.

By the way, the lady at the well, Mary Magdalene I think was her name, was labelled as a "woman of easy virtue" not a carpet muncher.

20 posted on 08/02/2011 7:58:28 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-38 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson