Posted on 08/04/2011 8:36:59 AM PDT by NYer
The majority of Catholics vote Democrat, so how are they following an anti-abortion route?
Here is an example of the California voters and pro-life/pro-abortion voting for leaders and issues, the Catholic Church opposed prop 71, but Catholics supported it.
The majority of catholics don’t live in America. Even with them, though, I consider them the same as my conservative, evangelical, Baptist relatives in W. North Carolina. The tradition of being democrat hasn’t yet been replaced by careful consideration.
I, too, was a democrat once upon a time.
Catholics poll low on pro-life which befits their voting and would account for the pro-Obama vote.
If you post a graph, you need to attribute it and give some parameters about it.
If the stem cell bill was officially opposed by the Catholic Church, then there was something going on with that bill. I’m guessing that it didn’t distinguish between types of stem cells, but that’s purely a guess, so I’m as likely to be wrong as right.
Again, if you assume that Catholics are roughly 25% of the US population, and that only 2/3rds of that are voting age Catholics, then we’re talking about something like ((300/4)*.67=50.25) 50 million people out of a world-wide church of more than a billion. That’s 5%.
All you had to do was ask, it is a Gallup poll.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/more-americans-pro-life-than-pro-choice-first-time.aspx
My point was that the church leadership was against it, but the rank and file Catholics were overwhelmingly for it, and voted for it because of their politics.
‘”The U.S. Catholic Bishops’ Pro-Life Secretariat and the California Conference of Catholic Bishops have weighed in strongly against Prop 71. Their main reasons urging a NO vote are:
Drawing stem cells from an embryo always destroys the human embryo, thus aborting human life.
From a social justice perspective, cloning embryos for the sole purpose of killing them is unjustified and manipulative and the Prop 71 denies funding for adult and umbilical cord blood stem cell research, while launching the State into a costly bond issue at a time when money is badly needed for health, education, police and fire services.
Embryonic stem cell research makes exaggerated promises of immediate help to people suffering from a of number debilitating diseases, while in fact adult stem cells mostly from bone marrow transplants have already helped patients with leukemia, Parkinson’s disease, spinal cord injury and dozens of other conditions.”’
I am not a Catholic myself, and don’t see myself ever converting to Catholicism, but I have to give the Catholics credit. Whenever I go to the abortuaries, 90% if not higher of those outside praying, counseling, protesting, etc, are Catholic.
The Protestants and Baptists all talk a good game on abortion, but where the rubber meets the road it’s the Catholics who show up.
Thanks, truthsearcher! You post the truth!
** The tradition of being democrat hasn’t yet been replaced by careful consideration.**
So true. The change is happening, but it’s slow and will take a long time.
On the other hand:
Before 1980, the Southern Baptist Convention officially advocated for loosening of abortion restrictions. During the 1971 and 1974 Southern Baptist Conventions, Southern Baptists were called upon "to work for legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother." W. Barry Garrett wrote in the Baptist PressBaptist PressBaptist Press is the official news service of the American Southern Baptist Convention based at the headquarters of the Southern Baptist Convention in Nashville, Tennessee.- Origins and bureaus :... , "Religious liberty, human equality and justice are advanced by the [Roe v. Wade] Supreme Court Decision." ."Found at: http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Pro-life
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I’m saying that Catholics support the Democrat party and their politics, including abortion, and until conservative Catholics learn that, then they cannot fix it, the conservatives in the Southern Baptists for example wrested back control from where their convention was drifting, now they are probably the most pro-life vote of any church.
Fighting to remain ignorant of how Catholics vote, will never result in a solution to a growing problem.
I’m saying that Catholics support the Democrat party and their politics, including abortion, ....Your anti immigrant and anti Catholic bigotry align you well with the KKK and GOP bigots who tried to OUTLAW the Catholic schools and whose hatred has kept many Catholics away from the GOP. It is sad to see that some conservatives still spout that unholy line of intolerant know-nothingism.
The KKK was Democrat like the Catholics, making personal attacks on someone for making conservatives aware of the pro-life/pro-abortion vote is uncalled for, especially since this is a conservative political site.
Rather than defending Catholic abortion voters, and fighting nastily to keep their voting hidden from view of pro-lifers, try to figure out a way to change it, if you care.
The KKK and the GOP teamed up in Oregon to pass the ultimate anti Catholic law - banning Catholic schools.
In that election, voters also supported a Klan-endorsed initiative that effectively outlawed private and parochial schools.
In less than two years, the Klan recruited 14,000 members in Oregon, giving it perhaps the highest per-capita membership in the country. And in the 1922 election, it succeeded in unseating Congressman Clifton McArthur and Olcott, and electing a new governor, two Multnomah County commissioners and a slate of state legislators. It also helped pass a nationally notorious initiative aimed at putting Catholic schools out of business.Not ALL GOP types are bigots or supported the KKK, but the anti-immigrant, anti Catholic bigots tainted the GOP then - and now - to the point that many of us still view the GOP with suspicion.
” making personal attacks on someone for making conservatives aware of the pro-life/pro-abortion vote is uncalled for, especially since this is a conservative political site.”
Spewing bigotry and spamming Catholic threads with your one sided and false to fact bigotry is uncalled for, especially since this is a conservative political site.
Man, personal attack seems to be your only speed.
Voting for abortion and liberalism is not something that conservatives support, we consider it a problem.
You really want to defend the abortion voters and now try to create a myth that the KKK was not an organization of Democrats?
Bigotry and liberalism is not something that conservatives support, we consider it a problem.
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