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Yep, this is the Robert Spencer ("Islamic Jihad").
1 posted on 11/22/2011 12:28:28 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: miele man

bump for later read


2 posted on 11/22/2011 12:33:20 PM PST by miele man
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To: marshmallow

When the Church changed in the 60s and 70s, my mom dragged me to both Russian and Greek masses. We sometimes had to travel long distances but it was worth it.


3 posted on 11/22/2011 12:36:32 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Let's have a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: marshmallow

Excellent article. I’m not one of the irregular Catholics, I’m quite happy to be one of the Latins. :)

Thanks for posting!


4 posted on 11/22/2011 12:37:42 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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Catholic ping!


7 posted on 11/22/2011 12:47:36 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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9 posted on 11/22/2011 12:52:53 PM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: marshmallow
“Is this a Catholic Church?” Why, yes, it is. But not in the way most Catholics would expect.

The second question should then be "Is this church in communion with the Holy See?"

10 posted on 11/22/2011 12:53:56 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: marshmallow

I read further ... nevermind previous post.

That’ll teach me to read before posting.


11 posted on 11/22/2011 12:55:53 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: marshmallow

St. Alexis Toth?

He might be in heaven, but unless you’re a Carpatho-Rus Orthodox you probably wouldn’t call him “St. Alexis Toth”.


12 posted on 11/22/2011 12:57:26 PM PST by vladimir998 (Public school grads are often too dumb to realize they're dumb)
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Fabulous article!!! Thank you for posting it! To complement the article, here is my usual spiel ...

Although it is not widely known in our Western world, the Catholic Church is actually a communion of Churches. According to the Constitution on the Church of the Second Vatican Council, Lumen Gentium, the Catholic Church is understood to be "a corporate body of Churches," united with the Pope of Rome, who serves as the guardian of unity (LG, no. 23). At present there are 22 Churches that comprise the Catholic Church. The new Code of Canon Law, promulgated by Pope John Paul II, uses the phrase "autonomous ritual Churches" to describe these various Churches (canon 112). Each Church has its own hierarchy, spirituality, and theological perspective. Because of the particularities of history, there is only one Western Catholic Church, while there are 21 Eastern Catholic Churches. The Western Church, known officially as the Latin Church, is the largest of the Catholic Churches. It is immediately subject to the Roman Pontiff as Patriarch of the West. The Eastern Catholic Churches are each led by a Patriarch, Major Archbishop, or Metropolitan, who governs their Church together with a synod of bishops. Through the Congregation for Oriental Churches, the Roman Pontiff works to assure the health and well-being of the Eastern Catholic Churches.

While this diversity within the one Catholic Church can appear confusing at first, it in no way compromises the Church's unity. In a certain sense, it is a reflection of the mystery of the Trinity. Just as God is three Persons, yet one God, so the Church is 22 Churches, yet one Church.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church summarizes this nicely:

"From the beginning, this one Church has been marked by a great diversity which comes from both the variety of God's gifts and the diversity of those who receive them... Holding a rightful place in the communion of the Church there are also particular Churches that retain their own traditions. The great richness of such diversity is not opposed to the Church's unity" (CCC no. 814).

Although there are 22 Churches, there are only eight "Rites" that are used among them. A Rite is a "liturgical, theological, spiritual and disciplinary patrimony," (Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches, canon 28). "Rite" best refers to the liturgical and disciplinary traditions used in celebrating the sacraments. Many Eastern Catholic Churches use the same Rite, although they are distinct autonomous Churches. For example, the Ukrainian Catholic Church and the Melkite Catholic Church are distinct Churches with their own hierarchies. Yet they both use the Byzantine Rite.

To learn more about the "two lungs" of the Catholic Church, visit this link:

CATHOLIC RITES AND CHURCHES

The Vatican II Council declared that "all should realize it is of supreme importance to understand, venerate, preserve, and foster the exceedingly rich liturgical and spiritual heritage of the Eastern churches, in order faithfully to preserve the fullness of Christian tradition" (Unitatis Redintegrato, 15).

A Roman rite Catholic may attend any Eastern Catholic Liturgy and fulfill his or her obligations at any Eastern Catholic Parish. A Roman rite Catholic may join any Eastern Catholic Parish and receive any sacrament from an Eastern Catholic priest, since all belong to the Catholic Church as a whole. I am a Roman Catholic practicing my faith at a Maronite Catholic Church. Like the Chaldeans, the Maronites retain Aramaic for the Consecration. It is as close as one comes to being at the Last Supper.

13 posted on 11/22/2011 1:20:50 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: marshmallow

marshmallow, this was an excellent article. Thank you very much for posting it.


17 posted on 11/22/2011 2:11:27 PM PST by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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If the Roman Catholic Church is the Regular Catholic Church, that would make my Melkite Greek Catholic Church and its twenty-two sister Eastern Churches in full communion with Rome Irregular Catholics – and so, for many, we are.

Makes sense to me! I know of a great many "Irregular Catholics" who could use a good laxative.

19 posted on 11/22/2011 2:14:20 PM PST by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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To: marshmallow

Facinating. Thanks for posting.


23 posted on 11/22/2011 2:48:19 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: marshmallow

Is the Armenian Catholic church one of the irregulars?


30 posted on 11/22/2011 7:21:01 PM PST by Jvette
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To: marshmallow

I disagree that they “take their form of worship from Constantinople”. After reunion, the eastern rite catholics removed the epiklisis from Divine Liturgy, added the filioque to the creed. They may not be Roman in outward appearance, but they are not Eastern Orthodox in liturgical practice.


34 posted on 11/24/2011 6:33:05 PM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy.)
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