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Will Catholic Mass Changes Cause Mass Confusion?
Washington Post ^ | November 24, 2011 | Elizabeth Tenety

Posted on 11/24/2011 8:32:12 AM PST by Steelfish

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To: TSgt
"and with your spirit"

"et cum spiritu tuo"

That is how it used to be said, just in Latin.

41 posted on 11/24/2011 9:21:22 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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42 posted on 11/24/2011 9:25:27 AM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: TSgt

I see that proper worship of God is beyond some. Nice interjection. I have some kittens that you can stomp on.


43 posted on 11/24/2011 9:36:14 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Steelfish

I like the changes.

The new Mass will be Kewl.


44 posted on 11/24/2011 9:38:18 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: buccaneer81

I currently attend a Catholic Church with my wife ( she`s Catholic, I am not ). I have been walking into Mass with her for over three years now.

I very much miss my Journey concerts with Ned Flanders singing.... I still attend a few “concerts” a year.

From what I can tell, all those hand wavers have no less of Jesus in their hearts than any one of those Catholic parisioners I see most Sundays.


45 posted on 11/24/2011 9:41:55 AM PST by Bud Krieger (Another President , another idiot......)
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To: Cicero

Could not have said it better!


46 posted on 11/24/2011 9:45:05 AM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
Washington Post spreading lies.

Who would have thunk it?

47 posted on 11/24/2011 9:46:23 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
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To: Bud Krieger

If it works for you, great. It just leaves me cold and uninspired.


48 posted on 11/24/2011 9:49:28 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Bud Krieger

St. Charles Borromeo in his youth allowed himself no other amusement but that of grave music, with a view to that of the Church.

“As to music as an amusement, too much time must never be given to it; and extreme care ought to be taken, as a judicious and experienced tutor observes, that children be not set to learn it very young, because it is a thing which bewitches the senses, dissipates the mind exceedingly, and alienates it from serious studies, as daily experience shows. Soft and effeminate music is to be always shunned with abhorrence, as the corrupter of the heart and the poison of virtue.”


49 posted on 11/24/2011 9:52:05 AM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Sacajaweau

I keep a linen hanky in my purse and every Mass I hold it in my right hand when we get to the hand shaking and motion I have a cold so that scares anyone who wants to shake my hand. It has also cut down on the number of colds I’ve had.


50 posted on 11/24/2011 9:57:27 AM PST by Citizen Soldier ("You care far too much what is written and said about you." Axelrod to Obama 2006)
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To: Puddleglum

So will I. Found out last Sunday that my parish first deacon will be this holiday weekend in Virgina, so no color commentary. In other words, the parish is going to have to with my pastor, “wing-it”.


51 posted on 11/24/2011 10:09:58 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: livius

Absolutely correct. Some of the old liberals who are complaining about the new translation were quick enough to change things forty years ago, and they then dismissed complaints with a haughty,”get over it,” attitude to older folks.


52 posted on 11/24/2011 10:16:21 AM PST by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: sayuncledave

Translation: It is a DONE DEAL.


53 posted on 11/24/2011 10:18:23 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

Exactly. Couldn’t agree more.


54 posted on 11/24/2011 10:28:02 AM PST by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: Steelfish

What all this English updating is simply is bringing back the importance of both PRAYER and MYSTERY to the holy mass.


55 posted on 11/24/2011 10:30:34 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Bud Krieger

And the Jesus in their minds? After forty years of dumbed down catechesis, many Catholics are very lacking in that, too. But the big question is “who Jesus.” Aldous Huxley once told the story of the young fisherman, really a boy of thirty or fourteen, who he met on the beach in Spain. He was a bright and cheery lad and Huxley liked to strike up conversations with him about. Huxley met him often since he like to walk through the village. At some point they struck up a conversation about religion. Somewhat with amusement, Huxley recalled that with just his mastery of the catechism, the boy was more than able to hold his own in the conversation —something I doubt that you or I could do easily. A year or so later, he returned and asked a local about the boy and learned that he had been lost as sea. Huxley was saddened, but reflected that the greatest mysteries could be reduced to simple forms, which if we reflect on them yield great wisdom, even in the young. We must just believe in them.


56 posted on 11/24/2011 10:32:11 AM PST by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: buccaneer81

See, that is exactly it. Inspiration comes from many things and places.

Mine comes from a different place than yours, nothing wrong with it, but I wouldn`t say your less Christian because of it.


57 posted on 11/24/2011 10:32:21 AM PST by Bud Krieger (Another President , another idiot......)
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To: Steelfish
She lost me at the mention of Holy Communion being something that has been conducted by the Church for "thousands of years". "Almost two thousand years" would have been relatively accurate and spot on if she mentioned the changes after Vatican II. I am not a Roman Catholic so corrections from any who are will be welcome.

When a reporter or essayist demonstrates ignorance and stupidity within the first two or three paragraphs it's almost invariably downhill from there.

58 posted on 11/24/2011 10:40:55 AM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Bud Krieger

Agreed.


59 posted on 11/24/2011 10:43:18 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Steelfish

All I can say is this:

Christian rock has driven me closer to Christ.


60 posted on 11/24/2011 10:43:44 AM PST by Bud Krieger (Another President , another idiot......)
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