Posted on 12/31/2011 9:45:58 PM PST by Colofornian
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Less than 60 years after forming "student" wards at BYU, the church decided to eliminate student congregations in June, now forming "young single adult" wards and stakes throughout Utah for single members ages 18-30...
(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...
Why? Because marriage rates among Mormons are dropping...Utah's been in the top 17-18 states for unmarried singles now for several years.
Worse -- for Mormons -- is that now for every 3 young single Mormon women, there's only two young single Mormon men...(Young men are dropping out fast!)
For more on these 2011 developments, see:
New study confirms many LDS stereotypes [Lds church bloats stats; men defecting @ high rates]
* Mormon men waiting longer to marry, worrying church officials
Mormon women...want a church-going husband? Odds are...look beyond the Mormon church.
You may even have to leave the Mormon church.
I’m actually a little sad by the ending of Student wards. Student wards at BYU were the most fun, much better than ‘family’ wards when I lived outside student housing. Of course, there was always the meat market feel to them, that was a downside.
Same to all FREEPERS!
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Where does “Engineering the recall of AZ Senate President Russell Pearce”, and “Pushing for amnesty for illegal aliens against Mormon precepts” rank on the list? I personally know a dozen Mormons who are seething over the “Utah Compact” and other LDS moves to pimp amnesty, but cannot speak out about it. Disgraceful.
Happy New Year to all the Flying Inmans!
I guess Mormons can’t go indy when their leaders go looey, huh.
They might be happier in a conservative independent Christian church.
Please enlighten us non-Mormon exposure types.
Wards? Some organizing unit from the context. Are they voluntary, like picking a specific church, or preset, like parishes?
My experience with mormonISM, is that nothing is voluntary.
The leaders tell you where you can go or not go.
Better LDS than LSD, that’s what I say.
O/T..
What year did Mormons allow Blacks full rights? How ‘bout half-Blacks? Any allowance for the White part?
Pretty much the case. As has been said in the Church, “when the Prophet speaks, the thinking has been done”.
There's a very obvious, tried-and-true solution to this disparity in the number of men and women of marriagable age.
Regards,
It was On June 9, 1978.
The LDS believe that blacks are inferior, and not worthy of the blessings of Gospel.
Mitt Romney is a high ranking Mormon, as was his father.
So Romney was a Mormon before they "changed their minds" about blacks and as he was brought up in a Mormon family, he was brought up in a racist environment.
Whether you list that as "Top LDS Theologians Have No Idea What LDS Theology Is Being Taught" or "Apostle Dallin Oaks Co-Award Winners For Protecting The Church By Lying For The Lord Because It's Not A Sin; You Would Lie To Keep Your Family From Being Killed Like In This Little Homily Of Mine That's Always Quoted So It's Okay, Trust Me."
He wasn't just a Mormon. He served as a Bishop. He taught that blacks were cowards in the pre-existence in the battle and were punished by God. As an LDS Bishop "Holy Father" moved him, or spoke to him, so that he could tell others of their calling to teach the same. The doctrinal statements, statements by Joseph Smith, Brigham Youth, and other LDS Prophets and Apostles (members of the Quorum of the Twelve) are too numerous to cite here. And the statements aren't all old. They continued right up until 1978.
"THE NEGROES ARE NOT EQUAL WITH OTHER RACES where the receipt of certain spiritual blessings are concerned, ...but this inequality is not of man's origin. IT IS THE LORD'S DOING, is based on his eternal laws of justice, and grows out of the LACK OF SPIRITUAL VALIANCE OF THOSE CONCERNED IN THEIR FIRST ESTATE [the Mormon pre-existence]."
Mormon Doctrine, p. 527 - 528, 1966 edition, emphasis added. Other quotes here.
Members of other churches were certainly racists. The Southern Baptist Church has issued an official apology for racism, although it wasn't formerly institutional. Mitt Romney and the LDS Church can't. They can't, because the argument is that God is the one who said blacks were inferior, not the LDS. Don't blame it on them. It was Heavenly Father. They didn't get it wrong. It was Heavenly Father/God's position from the pre-life all the way up until 1978. They are only telling you what Heavenly Father says.
So Mitt was only doing God's work to be a racist when he was an adult, and to teach others to be a racist. He can't apologize for it now, because that would be saying that God was wrong.
To me, perhaps the most poignant thing of all of this are these three sects of the Mormon church:
Independent Latter Day Saints of Nigeria
Independent Latter Day Saints of Ghana
Apostolic Divine Church of Ghana
They are now thought to be defunct. Before 1978 LDS missionaries went to Africa and shared with African blacks the Book of Mormon, Another Gospel of Jesus Christ. In the milk before meat tradition, they baptized them. Then, sometime after that, the black converts were told something along the lines of:
"Oh, and by the way? You can never be exalted and enter the Celestial Kingdom, which is the only one of the three heavenly kingoms where God dwells, and the only one where you become a god, with your own planet, and where you have eternal physical sex with your celestial wives, populating your own planet(s) with bodies filled with spirit babies, and their own christ. And where your children can eventually become gods themselves. Why? It's not up to me. That's what Heavenly Father says. It's because of the color of your skin, of course. You're black. God marked you as punishment for being fence-sitters in the pre-life, you blacks were. You're not white and delightsome."
So these African blacks, baptized LDS, started their own Mormon sects in which they could be exalted and enter the Celestial Kingdom and become gods. That's a footnote you don't see in these stories about LDS racism until 1978.
I'm aware of all that information except the Africa stuff, re my statement that Romney was a high ranking Mormon.
Good to see it spelled out on this thread.
“Heavenly Father,” a man that became “god” of this planet is a racist.
Fits Romney's political style perfectly to be a member of a non-Christian belief system that changes with the wind, but really doesn't mean it.
Wow, thanks guys.
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