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Jewish leaders offended by ceremony at Georgia megachurch dubbing {Baptist} preacher a ‘king’
Washington Post ^ | 3 Feb 2012 | APD

Posted on 02/05/2012 2:01:15 AM PST by Cronos

Jewish leaders are criticizing a ceremony that involved a controversial megachurch leader being wrapped in a religious scroll and exalted as a “king” to the applause of his parishioners.

The video from a service last Sunday at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church shows Rabbi Ralph Messer, a Messianic preacher, instructing two men to slowly wrap Bishop Eddie Long in a large scroll that’s purported to be the Torah.

“It doesn’t matter where you go, how you try to attack him. He’s sealed,” Messer proclaims, before the scroll is opened to reveal a teary-eyed Long. Moments later, Long was seated in a plush chair, covered in a prayer shawl while holding the sacred scroll and lifted by four men.

“He now is raised up from a commoner to a kingship,” Messer proclaims, as the men walk Long’s seat around an adoring crowd.

Messianic Jews believe that Jesus Christ, or Yeshua, is the Messiah, putting them at odds with traditional Jewish theology. Most Jews consider the faith to be a form of evangelical Christianity.

..The Torah is one of Judaism’s most sacred objects and Jewish groups said the notion that it was used in a ceremony at the church was offensive.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian
KEYWORDS: baptist; pentecostal
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To: Tzfat

LOL, I knew someone would appear and not understand what I wrote.

Stating the facts does not make one anti-semitic any more than wondering why Maxine Waters hasn’t faced that ethics trial they keep saying one day she will face ,makes one a racist.

If you disagree with something there that I said, bring it up and let’s discuss it.


21 posted on 02/05/2012 7:12:30 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Cronos

However bizarre their display might have been, it’s pretty safe to say it was not intended to offend Jews as they consider themselves Jews, whether or not they are accepted as such.

Too much stagecraft, too much showmanship, not enough understanding of that with which they seek to wrap themselves, imho.


22 posted on 02/05/2012 7:18:56 AM PST by RegulatorCountry (+)
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To: Celtic Conservative
They claim there was Scripture involved in this one ~ did you not see the words "Torah" and "scroll" in the news piece?

BTW, this sort of theatrical performance is definitely not part of Protestant "plain church" traditions ~ but you're right, it is POMP ~

23 posted on 02/05/2012 7:30:31 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Cronos

Well, I’m not Jewish.....and I’M offended all to hell by this moron.

Guess he forgot, or never knew, that there is only ONE King that Christians acknowledge...let alone worship...and it ain’t his sorry black a**.


24 posted on 02/05/2012 7:36:58 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: Venturer; Tzfat

No worries, Venturer......I knew precisely what you meant and couldn’t agree more.


25 posted on 02/05/2012 7:40:22 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: Cronos

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2842267/posts?page=26#26


26 posted on 02/05/2012 7:45:21 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: RightOnline

Thank you.


27 posted on 02/05/2012 7:48:14 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer
You did not say "the liberal Jewish mind" "the American Jewish mind" "the Democrat Jewish mind" - you said "the Jewish mind." So you can understand how stupid your statement is, more Jews live in Israel than the U.S. Israeli Jews cannot stand Obama. So, do you understand "the Israeli Jewish mind"?

I am not Jewish, but with attitudes like yours, I CAN understand why some liberal Jews might think conservatives are jerks.
28 posted on 02/05/2012 9:20:29 AM PST by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

Ask me if I give a good damn about what the “liberal”jew who supports Obama thinks about Conservatives.

Ask me if I give a good damn what any Liberal who supports Obama thinks about Conservatives.

I will be happy to tell you what I think about Liberals.
They are Idiots-—who see what is happening to our country and who see how Obama is dumping on Israel and still they back this Muslim fool.

You worry about what Liberal Jews think I have better things to do.They can KMA.


29 posted on 02/05/2012 11:37:37 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer
From your original post and your follow up, you clearly do not care what anyone thinks. You must think it is comforting to be so self assured. Thanks for clarifying your thought process.
30 posted on 02/05/2012 2:31:55 PM PST by Tzfat
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To: Cronos

**Messianic Jews believe that Jesus Christ, or Yeshua, is the Messiah**

So do Catholics. I thought this was totally sacreligious.

Christ is the one and only King of Kings.


31 posted on 02/05/2012 2:37:06 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Tzfat

It’s ok glad to make you happy.


32 posted on 02/05/2012 2:54:37 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Lucas McCain

wuttzamatter...you disappove of ‘holy water’, and people kissing graven images, icons, etc.?


33 posted on 02/05/2012 3:22:23 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: Lucas McCain

wuttzamatter...you disappove of ‘holy water’, and people kissing graven images, icons, etc.?


34 posted on 02/05/2012 3:22:32 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: Cronos

This is blasphemy, pure and simple. Whether you’re Jewish or Christian.

There is only one “King” in Christianity.


35 posted on 02/05/2012 3:44:07 PM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: Venturer

You mean, KMT.... kiss my tuchas. (with the ‘ch’ pronounced just like in Chanukah.)

Or in Yiddish, “kushin tuchas!”


36 posted on 02/05/2012 7:11:56 PM PST by Phinneous
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To: Lucas McCain
I was taught that if you can't say something nice the don't say anything. So,

CC

37 posted on 02/05/2012 7:40:46 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (Wisdom comes from experience. Experience comes from a lack of wisdom.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Wow — so Eddie Long is a Messianic J with beliefs like yours?


38 posted on 02/05/2012 9:50:26 PM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: RegulatorCountry; UriÂ’el-2012
as they consider themselves Jews,

I'm not sure about that -- Uri, do you guys consider yourselves Jews? And what about this coronation of Eddie?

39 posted on 02/05/2012 9:51:38 PM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: Celtic Conservative

the thing is that they feel the need for solemnity in worship but instead of using what has always been used since Apostolic times they invent their own each time.


40 posted on 02/05/2012 9:59:00 PM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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