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Jesus may have been a hermaphrodite, claims academic (feminist theologian stokes controversy)
The Telegraph ^ | 03/02/2012 | By John Bingham

Posted on 03/02/2012 6:59:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Dr Susannah Cornwall claimed that it is “simply a best guess” that Jesus was male.

Her comments, which are bound to provoke fury in some quarters, were published in response to the ongoing debate about women bishops in the Church of England. Dr Cornwall, of Manchester University’s Lincoln Theological Institute, describes herself on her blog as specialising in: “Research and writing in feminist theology, sexuality, gender, embodiment, ethics and other fun things like that.”

In her paper “Intersex & Ontology, A Response to The Church, Women Bishops and Provision”, she argues that it is not possible to know “with any certainty” that Jesus did not suffer from an intersex condition, with both male and female organs.

In an extraordinary paper she says: “It is not possible to assert with any degree of certainty that Jesus was male as we now define maleness.

“There is no way of knowing for sure that Jesus did not have one of the intersex conditions which would give him a body which appeared externally to be unremarkably male, but which might nonetheless have had some “hidden” female physical features.”

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Current Events; History; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: feminism; feminist; hermaphrodite; jesus
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1 posted on 03/02/2012 6:59:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It is impossible to tell what moles he had too. This is laughable.


2 posted on 03/02/2012 7:00:53 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good grief!


3 posted on 03/02/2012 7:01:35 AM PST by eCSMaster (Conservative patriots, Rise up!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Isn’t it great to be an academic? You can imagine things like these, get published, and still get tenure.

And tax payers pay for her salary, while your kids sit in her classroom absorbing this.


4 posted on 03/02/2012 7:01:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Does her paper come in bathroom tissue size?


5 posted on 03/02/2012 7:02:45 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: cuban leaf

RE: It is impossible to tell what moles he had too. This is laughable.

That’s part 2 of her dissertation along with the color of His eyes and hair.


6 posted on 03/02/2012 7:02:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Fury?

No, I pity the woman.


7 posted on 03/02/2012 7:03:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Great White Throne


8 posted on 03/02/2012 7:04:35 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: SeekAndFind

>> Dr Susannah Cornwall claimed that it is “simply a best guess” that Jesus was male.

She’ll find out for sure some terrible day.


9 posted on 03/02/2012 7:05:00 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: SeekAndFind
He may have also been a large, talking tabby cat... but I doubt it.

but which might nonetheless have had some “hidden” female physical features.”

Ooooo, crypto-ovaries.

“Research and writing in feminist theology, sexuality, gender, embodiment, ethics and other fun things like that.”

Heavy on the feminism, sexuality and gender. Very light on the theology and ethics.

10 posted on 03/02/2012 7:05:14 AM PST by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Some ideas are so stupid only an intellectual could believe them.”

~George Orwell


11 posted on 03/02/2012 7:05:38 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SeekAndFind
In that business you seem to gain status by the most perverse imaginations.

Great Britain is in trouble.

12 posted on 03/02/2012 7:06:12 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Nervous Tick

I think we should start burning down buildings, marching down the streets and shooting guns in the air just like our mooslem friends would do. /s


13 posted on 03/02/2012 7:06:13 AM PST by Free America52 (The White guys are getting pissed off. We beat Hitler Hirohito and Krushchev. Obama will be easy.)
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To: SeekAndFind

>> You can imagine things like these, get published, and still get tenure... And tax payers pay for her salary

It works so well for the global warming academic industry. Why not franchise it into other areas of make-believe academia?


14 posted on 03/02/2012 7:07:00 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: SeekAndFind
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15 posted on 03/02/2012 7:08:04 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: SeekAndFind

It is not possible to assert with any degree of certainty that Dr Susannah Cornwall has any serviceable intelligence, but folks, I think she’s provided enough clues.


16 posted on 03/02/2012 7:08:23 AM PST by KStorm (Birth control for liberals, big families for conservatives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Holy moly.....

unnnnbelievable the lengths some folks will go to.

Sigh.

Give us strength Lord, and guide our course.
Tatt


17 posted on 03/02/2012 7:08:31 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: SeekAndFind
In an extraordinary paper she says: “It is not possible to assert with any degree of certainty that Jesus was male as we now define maleness. “There is no way of knowing for sure that Jesus did not have one of the intersex conditions which would give him a body which appeared externally to be unremarkably male, but which might nonetheless have had some “hidden” female physical features.”

She's absolutely right!!!!

Of course, she's a little late to this meme.

It's also impossible to assert with any degree of certainty that Jesus was not a raptor.


18 posted on 03/02/2012 7:10:10 AM PST by Lazamataz (If unemployment helps the economy, like the W.H. says, then CONTRACTING CANCER MAKES YOU HEALTHIER!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Definitively Bump worthy post by our FRiend Tijeras_Slim - “Some ideas are so stupid only an intellectual could believe them.”

~George Orwell

Gotta love ol’ George.
Tatt


19 posted on 03/02/2012 7:12:10 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder why she’s not claiming Muhhamad was a hermaphrodite...I guess she enjoys having a head!


20 posted on 03/02/2012 7:13:08 AM PST by apillar
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To: SeekAndFind
Suzie has some splain' to do on Judgement Day.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

21 posted on 03/02/2012 7:13:08 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: cuban leaf

Just when ya think that things can’t get any wackier BOOM!


22 posted on 03/02/2012 7:13:45 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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23 posted on 03/02/2012 7:14:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (If unemployment helps the economy, like the W.H. says, then CONTRACTING CANCER MAKES YOU HEALTHIER!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ya know, the Bible doesn’t specifically say that Jesus wasn’t 900 feet tall. Maybe Oral Roberts had it right all along.....


24 posted on 03/02/2012 7:15:06 AM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: SeekAndFind
He was called “the Son of Man”, not “the indeterminately sexed descendant of Man”.
25 posted on 03/02/2012 7:16:28 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, I have two comments about this.

1) This is what passes for scholarship, not just now but for at least as long as I have been reading about theological. I suspect it has been going on for a lot longer. Make a statement and back it up with....nothing.

2) Say it were so, what’s the point she’s trying to make?


26 posted on 03/02/2012 7:17:58 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: SeekAndFind

Under Cornwall’s approach, Jesus could have been a shape shifting alien or a leftist loon pseudo academic, also.


27 posted on 03/02/2012 7:18:41 AM PST by Truth29
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To: SeekAndFind
Isn’t it great to be an academic? You can imagine things like these, get published, and still get tenure.

Of course, if you were to find irrefutable proof of the resurrection, say, the say goodbye to your professorial career. You'll be lucky to be a dish-washer

28 posted on 03/02/2012 7:20:00 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: Lazamataz

“There is no way of knowing for sure that Jesus did not have one of the intersex conditions which would give him a body which appeared externally to be unremarkably male, but which might nonetheless have had some “hidden” female physical features.”

Crucifiction was meant to humiliate and teach others a lesson on what will happen if you defy Rome. I have read that people were crucifies naked to make it even more humiliating. I would imagine someone would have noticed if Jesus were not a male.

From Wikipedia:” writings by Seneca the Younger suggest that victims were crucified completely nude.” This tells me what kind of research she must have done...or didn’t do.


29 posted on 03/02/2012 7:20:09 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: Tijeras_Slim

“From the moment I picked your book up until I laid it down I was convulsed with laughter. Someday I intend reading it.”(Groucho Marx 1935)

“She may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don’t let that fool you. She really is an idiot” (Groucho Marx 1934)

“She got her good looks from her father. He’s a plastic surgeon.” ( Groucho Marx 1950)

“She’s afraid that if she leaves, she’ll become the life of the party.” (Groucho Marx, 1936)

“Will you marry me? Do you have any money? Answer the second question first.” (Groucho Marx, 1933)

“Remember men, you are fighting for this lady’s honor; which is probably more than she ever did.” ( (Groucho Marx, 1932)


30 posted on 03/02/2012 7:20:09 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Why don’t you just ask Him?

He’ll Walk with you and Talk with you


31 posted on 03/02/2012 7:20:58 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: SeekAndFind

Academics have to one-up each other in order to get attention.

I’m pretty sure Jesus is big enough to deal with it.


32 posted on 03/02/2012 7:21:05 AM PST by lurk
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To: Free America52

Forget the sarcasm, there’s better places to shoot your guns.


33 posted on 03/02/2012 7:21:11 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: cuban leaf

Sooner or later she’ll learn that it’s not wise to mock God.


34 posted on 03/02/2012 7:21:44 AM PST by wbill
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To: SeekAndFind
Dr Susannah Cornwall claimed that it is “simply a best guess” that Jesus was male.
Unbelievable. Other gems from this whacko's webpage:
35 posted on 03/02/2012 7:22:00 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind

And from what I can deduce it is impossible to tell if this ‘professor’ has a brain since there is no brain to examine......./s(did I have to add that?)


36 posted on 03/02/2012 7:22:25 AM PST by Nifster
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To: JoeDetweiler

37 posted on 03/02/2012 7:24:18 AM PST by Lazamataz (If unemployment helps the economy, like the W.H. says, then CONTRACTING CANCER MAKES YOU HEALTHIER!)
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RE: And from what I can deduce it is impossible to tell if this ‘professor’ has a brain since there is no brain to examine.

“You’ve got the brain of a four-year-old boy, and I’ll bet he was glad to get rid of it.” (Grouch Marx, 1933)


38 posted on 03/02/2012 7:24:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
What amazes me the most about these anti-Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ haters and deniers, is that they spend nearly their whole lives trying to prove there is no Jesus Christ, which they claim not to believe in in the first place. They deny Him. But, if something goes wrong in the world, are quick to BLAME Him for it. They always say, “why does your God allow this if He is so loving?” Yet, they do not believe in Him. This person will answer one day at the Great White Throne for her mouth. EVERYTHING she says, did, etc., in this life to deny Him, will be revealed again before her eyes by HIM!!!

What it is, is that they, deep down inside KNOW there is a God. They KNOW there is one more powerful than they. Yet, they are too "small" to admit it. AND, they know they are going to pay for their sins. They are just cowards.

When these people tell me there is no God, I tell them: "you'd better be right." Simple as that.

39 posted on 03/02/2012 7:24:23 AM PST by RetiredArmy (POLITICIANS: Promise the moon. Deliver the shaft.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sometimes one can only shake ones head at the utter blasphemous stupidity of what liberal “theologians” come up with. There is not a single shred of Biblical or extra-Biblical contemporary evidence that can even begin to support this outrageous nonsense, hence the unprovable negative she posits. Another shining example of where the humanist presuppositions dictate what her theology is, and it is most assuredly not Biblical in any sense.


40 posted on 03/02/2012 7:25:01 AM PST by Ironfocus (Unseat the Looter-in-Chief)
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To: SeekAndFind

Explain again this idea that everyone needs to go to University.


41 posted on 03/02/2012 7:26:17 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (We have nothing to fear except fear itself.... And bunnies.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Honey... he was Jewish..his male equipment was Rabbi approved at 8 days old...sheeees
42 posted on 03/02/2012 7:27:03 AM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: JoeDetweiler

You forget that greatest of 80s rap acts, “MC 900 foot Jesus”!

I believe Sam Kinneson had some things to say about “Mr. Place your haundhs on thaaa Tele-VISION and be HeALeD!”’s and his height estimations as well...


43 posted on 03/02/2012 7:27:45 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Great line....unfortunately for me I now need a new key board....


44 posted on 03/02/2012 7:29:46 AM PST by Nifster
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To: marstegreg

45 posted on 03/02/2012 7:32:48 AM PST by Lazamataz (If unemployment helps the economy, like the W.H. says, then CONTRACTING CANCER MAKES YOU HEALTHIER!)
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RE: Honey... he was Jewish..his male equipment was Rabbi approved at 8 days old...sheeees

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“On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived. When the time came for the purification rites required by the Law of Moses, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, “Every firstborn male is to be consecrated to the Lord”) , and to offer a sacrifice in keeping with what is said in the Law of the Lord: “a pair of doves or two young pigeons.” (LUKE 2:21-24)

They say this woman is an academic and theologian but apparently she never reads or refuses to believe the Bible.


46 posted on 03/02/2012 7:33:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: RetiredArmy

I always told them “If you’re right, I black out into the void and never know I was wrong. If I’m right, you’ll have an eternity to regret it” ;)


47 posted on 03/02/2012 7:33:20 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s like saying I can only ‘guess’ that the guy in the office next to me is male.

Dumb.


48 posted on 03/02/2012 7:33:27 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: SeekAndFind

perfect,,,,this ‘scholar’ is the gift that keeps on giving. Too bad she takes herself seriously


49 posted on 03/02/2012 7:33:50 AM PST by Nifster
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To: marstegreg
writings by Seneca the Younger suggest that victims were crucified completely nude.

In the Roman Empire, as a general rule that was correct. However, I recently heard a presentation on the crucifixion by a Biblical scholar (Orthodox, unlike this ninny), and she stated that in Judea, as a concession to Jewish laws regarding modesty, the victims were clothed in loin cloths. So Jesus did appear on the cross exactly as traditionally depicted. It was Jewish modesty, not later Christian prudery that depicted Christ wearing a loin cloth.

That said, we can be certain that Christ was fully man, in all aspects. The Bible and Christian teaching are clear that Jesus was the only begotten Son of God. Not the only begotten son-daughter, or the only "thing."

This is some sort of gnostic heresy, positing Christ as somehow not fully human. Nothing new under the Sun.

50 posted on 03/02/2012 7:34:00 AM PST by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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