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Cardinal Dolan: White House Lectured My USCCB Staff On How to Interpret Catholic Teaching
Catholic Vote ^ | March 6, 2012 | Thomas Peters

Posted on 03/07/2012 10:14:16 AM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 03/07/2012 10:14:21 AM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 03/07/2012 10:15:22 AM PST by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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To: NYer

Turning to modernity cost the Church dearly; Homosexual chickenhawk priests, seamless garment, vocations dropping through the floor, etc., billions of dollars and its reputation.


3 posted on 03/07/2012 10:19:28 AM PST by steve8714 (Thank you, Andrew. I miss you already.)
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To: NYer

Hardly surprising, given that the Administration’s most respected authority on Catholic doctrine is Nancy Pelosi.


4 posted on 03/07/2012 10:19:35 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Mitt Romney is SEVERELY conservative - and I'm SEVERELY against giving him my vote!)
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LOL!

These naive fools think the Catholic Church should be run like obamites are running the United States government-
Based on public opinion polls influenced by manipulated data to meet a leftist agenda

Really, I do not see the Pope Dude becoming the leader of the Church of Wazzzzuuup .....


5 posted on 03/07/2012 10:20:06 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: NYer

The White House is lecturing the church religious doctrine, but the Leftists tout separation of church and state.

BS. The Left believes in domination of the church by the state.


6 posted on 03/07/2012 10:20:29 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: NYer

No surprise considering the arrogance of this administration.


7 posted on 03/07/2012 10:24:18 AM PST by Jvette
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To Alinskyites, the Church is just another man-made institution to be subverted.

I’m surprised they didn’t ask Bishop Dolan how many divisions he had.
That didn’t work out so well for Stalin.

I hope this steels Bishop Dolan’s will. I want him to tell Catholics not to vote for Obama in November. It may backfire, but it should be done. Losing the Church’s tax-exempt status would be liberating.

It’s now or never, should Obama be reelected. If he’s not reelected, the situation will return to the status quo ante.


8 posted on 03/07/2012 10:25:22 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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The more I hear of Cardinal Dolan, the more I like him.


9 posted on 03/07/2012 10:27:02 AM PST by SueRae (Tale of 2 Towers - First, Isengaard (GOP-e), then, the Tower of Sauron on 11.06.2012)
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To: steve8714

“Turning to modernity cost the Church dearly”

Well now, let’s take a look at “who” did the “turning”.

It was NOT the Vatican!

It was in fact, pockets within the USCCB and others dissenting from Rome.

If you stick to the teachings from Rome, you can recognize the human failings and avoid falling into them yourself.


10 posted on 03/07/2012 10:28:42 AM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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Obummer copies Communist China now-

This is exactly what the Chinese Communist govt does with their `state-run catholic church`.-

White House violates First Amendment by placing Catholic Teachers in the govt.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

11 posted on 03/07/2012 10:31:11 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (Obummmer a communist??????? Who knew?)
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What we have here is a communist, trying to impose his will on the Church.

Just shoot the Bishops in the throat and throw the survivors in the hole.

12 posted on 03/07/2012 10:32:30 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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I suspect the regime hacks are mulling what bone they need to throw to Dolan to shut him up, because the longer this continues, the more of a chance the sheeple may eventually catch on.


13 posted on 03/07/2012 10:34:08 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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From the letter...

“Perhaps the courts offer the most light. In the recent Hosanna-Tabor ruling, the Supreme Court unanimously defended the right of a Church to define its own ministry and services, a dramatic rebuff to the administration, apparently unheeded by the White House. Thus, our bishops’ conference, many individual religious entities, and other people of good will are working with some top-notch law firms who feel so strongly about this that they will represent us
pro-bono. In the upcoming days, you will hear much more about this encouraging and welcome development.”- Cardinal Dolan


14 posted on 03/07/2012 10:35:28 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("For the sake of our party we must stand united, whoever our nominee is."-Sarah Palin)
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To: G Larry

You are correct but the US wasn’t the only country infected; Germany, France, Italy, Britain, Ireland, Canada, South America as a special case because they moved into liberation theology.


15 posted on 03/07/2012 10:35:50 AM PST by steve8714 (Thank you, Andrew. I miss you already.)
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No surprise considering the arrogance of this administration.

Yup, they are unparalleled geniuses...

Shutting down drilling and "investing" in wonderful companies like Solyndra to drive energy prices down.
Poking the finger into the eyes of our allies and friends, and grovelling and apologizing to our enemies.
Focused on the economy like a fricken' laser beam, with their flagship initiative being to increase unemployment insurance ... Because nothing drives the economic recovery better than having more people on unemployment getting checks from the money tree...

A regular bunch of whiz kids. The Bishop's representatives should have bowed down in their presence as they were schooled in the intricacies of their religious beliefs...

16 posted on 03/07/2012 10:37:47 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

The Chucrch needs to recognize that this is a war, not a negotiation. “Tax-Exempt Status” cannot hold them back.

1. Notify the public that Catholic facilities will be closed if HHS mandates are implemented.

2. Notify tyhe public the Catholic facilities will NOT be sold if HHS mandates are implemented.

3. Ex-communicate all political figure sympathetic to the HHS mandate. There are valid, established criteria to do so.

4. Advise Catholics to vote against this administration.

5. Advise Mexican Catholics to withhold support for this administration and point out their evil ways.

6. Seek cooperation from other religious groups.


17 posted on 03/07/2012 10:39:28 AM PST by kidd
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I wonder if Bishop Dolan has “offended” 0bama as Steve Bridges and Andrew Breitbart had.

Again.. just wondering.


18 posted on 03/07/2012 10:40:50 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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Did Dolan back Obmamcare originally?


19 posted on 03/07/2012 10:45:11 AM PST by what's up
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4. The White House has also chosen to ally itself with liberal, left-wing Catholic dissenters like Sr. Carol Keehan throughout this process, thereby snubbing the U.S. Bishops and all faithful Catholics.

These same left-wing Catholics are also trying to force through immigration reform laws under the guise of "social justice" with the meme being that they simply desire to promote "human dignity". Such forced religiously based legislation denies their fellow Americans, who are not Catholics, their First Amendment right of freedom of religion.

The Catholic Church in America is being taken over by those wishing to advance a political agenda under religious precepts.

And on a side note and purely conjecture...Islamists have hated the Catholic Church for more than a thousand year. Is this all some sort of "peace overture"? "We'll slap 'em around for you guys on the sly so ya'll don't get blamed."

20 posted on 03/07/2012 10:46:21 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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