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Who is Mitt Romney? [Ex-Lds author reveals why Mitt's wishy-washy culture waffles & flip-flops]
Renew America ^ | Feb. 10, 2012 | Stephen Stone

Posted on 03/08/2012 5:57:03 AM PST by Colofornian

As the Republican establishment redoubles its efforts to anoint Mitt Romney the GOP presidential nominee (an outcome likely to ensure a second term for Barack Obama), the need to understand Mitt Romney increases.

What makes Mitt the kind of person he is — ruthlessly opportunistic, dishonest, insincere, willing to say anything for advantage, lacking in conscience, preoccupied with appearance, etc., on the one hand, yet squeaky clean, family-oriented, disciplined, boring, and predictable, on the other?

My new e-book, A Mormon Story, sheds light on the culture that produced Mitt Romney.

The book reveals a value system that ultimately has no absolutes, other than the need to conform to deep-seated, highly-controlling authoritarianism that pervades LDS culture.

That culture emphasizes a Mormon tradition known as "eternal progression" — undoctrinal spiritual evolution in which even God is changing. It also emphasizes the notion that the latest words of governing church leaders trump the Word of God found in the scriptures (including LDS scripture). As a result, Mormons have little incentive to inform themselves about what the scriptures call the "doctrine of Christ" (since they consider that doctrine subject to change); or to rely directly on God to know His will in applying that doctrine to their lives; or to sacrifice their security, comfort, or needs to do what is right, above all else.

In such a system, truth is relative, LDS leaders become the only reliable authority, and individual members are subservient.

Outwardly, as is well known, Mormons appear upright — but that is due largely to intense pressure to conform to the norms of Mormon society, and to uphold the Mormon church's nurtured image of conventionality. Inwardly, Mormons are less independently moral, principled, and informed than they may seem (something LDS scripture quotes God Himself as saying about them). They are trained to be dependent on church authorities to tell them what to think and do, in ways non-Mormons would have difficulty relating to. They behave much like a "cult" — one centered in obedience to powerful, dictatorial leaders.*

As a culture, Mormons therefore tend to lack moral courage — of the sort that would enable them to rise above such social pressure and truly lead out in solving the problems and paradoxes of real life. They are inclined to exemplify not firm leadership, but timidity masquerading as normalcy.

Watch Mitt in the debates. There's fear behind his practiced façade.

Sound intriguing? You bet (as Mormons would say). To read A Mormon Story, click here.

It's time for the culture of Mormonism — its relativistic, authoritarian values and traditions — to receive the kind of scrutiny often reserved for controversial elements of LDS doctrine. Americans deserve to know.

*To be fair, I should stress that my characterization of "Mormons" is just broad enough to create a clear picture of the traditions, values, and tendencies that do — in fact — permeate Mormon culture. I don't mean to imply there aren't exceptions among sincere LDS people. Indeed, I counted myself as an exception — before I was excommunicated for "disobeying" church leaders who illegally demanded I abandon my political livelihood. I know several LDS members who have fundamental integrity, and who therefore struggle with the undoctinal demands and contradictions placed on them by LDS culture.


TOPICS: History; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: inman; lds; ldsantichristian; mittromney; mormon; mormontrashing; relativistic
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To: PeachyKeen

Mixed emotions...

Like having your mother-in-law go over the cliff driving your new Cadillac.

We may just have to endure another 4 of Bama; just to expose MORMONism to the world.

But really; would that not be better?


41 posted on 03/08/2012 1:47:37 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: mikeus_maximus
We're dead.

Just like 45-50 MILLION are since 1973.

America: you'd better repent, or it'll just get worse...

42 posted on 03/08/2012 1:49:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: svcw; paythefiddler
What you said about mormonism probably means you know nothing about it. other than what the massive PR machine in SLC wants you to know.
43 posted on 03/08/2012 1:51:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian
we're ripe for judgment...and not just for whom our citizenry elevates as "ideal" candidates.

Somebody said long ago: If God doesn't judge America, He'll have to apologize to Sodom & Gomorrah.

44 posted on 03/08/2012 1:51:50 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
An excellent remote diagnosis!
45 posted on 03/08/2012 1:52:59 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: PeachyKeen
It is too bad this can’t get traction now before it’s too late

Perhaps some eager beaver will jump the gun, and the floodgates will burst open!

We ALL know that they'd rather be FIRST with a story than be RIGHT about it!

46 posted on 03/08/2012 1:54:41 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: svcw
If Beck really valued truth, he would have never converted to mormonism.

Oh come on; ease up on him a bit.

He was rebounding from the absolute pits and his GIRLFRIEND said she would not marry him unless they had a faith they SHARED.

Perhaps SHE was the leader in this.

As a guy, if you put TRUTH on the scales trying to balance against NOOKIE; well...

...that'd be a TOUGH one!! ;^)

47 posted on 03/08/2012 1:59:10 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: AnTiw1

“I Will Be a Second Mohammed”

In the heat of the Missouri “Mormon War” of 1838, Joseph Smith made the following claim, “I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was ‘the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword.’ So shall it eventually be with us—‘Joseph Smith or the Sword!’ ”[1]

It is most interesting that a self-proclaimed Christian prophet would liken himself to Mohammed, the founder of Islam. His own comparison invites us to take a closer look as well. And when we do, we find some striking—and troubling—parallels. Consider the following.

  • Mohammed and Joseph Smith both had humble beginnings. Neither had formal religious connections or upbringing, and both were relatively uneducated. Both founded new religions by creating their own scriptures. In fact, followers of both prophets claim these scriptures are miracles since their authors were the most simple and uneducated of men.[2]

  • Both prophets claim of having angel visitations, and of receiving divine revelation to restore pure religion to the earth again. Mohammed was told that both Jews and Christians had long since corrupted their scriptures and religion. In like manner, Joseph Smith was told that all of Christianity had become corrupt, and that consequently the Bible itself was no longer reliable. In both cases, this corruption required a complete restoration of both scripture and religion. Nothing which preceded either prophet could be relied upon any longer. Both prophets claim they were used of God to restore eternal truths which once existed on earth, but had been lost due to human corruption.

  • Both prophets created new scripture which borrowed heavily from the Bible, but with a substantially new “spin.” In his Koran, Mohammed appropriates a number of Biblical themes and characters—but he changes the complete sense of many passages, claiming to “correct” the Bible. In so doing he changes many doctrines, introducing his own in their place. In like manner, Joseph Smith created the Book of Mormon, much of which is plagiarized directly from the King James Bible. Interestingly, the Book of Mormon claims that this same Bible has been substantially corrupted and is therefore unreliable. In addition, Joseph Smith went so far as to actually create his own version of the Bible itself, the “Inspired Version,” in which he both adds and deletes significant portions of text, claiming he is “correcting” it. In so doing he also changes many doctrines, introducing his own in their place.

  • As a part of their new scriptural “spin,” both prophets saw themselves as prophesied in scripture, and both saw themselves as a continuation of a long line of Biblical prophets. Mohammed saw himself as a continuation of the ministry of Moses and Jesus. Joseph Smith saw himself as a successor to Enoch, Melchizedek, Joseph and Moses. Joseph Smith actually wrote himself into his own version of the Bible—by name.

  • Both prophets held up their own scripture as superior to the Bible. Mohammed claimed that the Koran was a perfect copy of the original which was in heaven. The Koran is therefore held to be absolutely perfect, far superior to the Bible and superceding it. In like manner, Joseph Smith also made the following claim. “I told the Brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding its precepts, than by any other book.”[3]

  • Despite their claim that the Bible was corrupt, both prophets admonished their followers to adhere to its teachings. An obvious contradiction, this led to selective acceptance of some portions and wholesale rejection of others. As a result, the Bible is accepted by both groups of followers only to the extent that it agrees with their prophet’s own superior revelation.

  • Both Mohammed and Joseph Smith taught that true salvation was to be found only in their respective religions. Those who would not accept their message were considered “infidels,” pagans or Gentiles. In so doing, both prophets became the enemy of genuine Christianity, and have led many people away from the Christ of the Bible.

  • Both prophets encountered fierce opposition to their new religions and had to flee from town to town because of threats on their lives. Both retaliated to this opposition by forming their own militias. Both ultimately set up their own towns as model societies.

  • Both Mohammed and Joseph Smith left unclear instructions about their successors. The majority of Mohammed’s followers, Sunni Muslims, believe they were to elect their new leader, whereas the minority, Shiite Muslims, look to Alī ibn Abī Ṭālib, whom they consider Divinely appointed, as the rightful successor to Muhammad, and the first imam. (Ali was the cousin and son-in-law of the Islamic prophet Muhammad). Similarly, the majority of Joseph Smith's followers, Mormons, believed their next prophet should have been the existing leader of their quorum of twelve apostles, whereas the minority, RLDS, believed Joseph Smith's own son should have been their next prophet. Differences on this issue, and many others, have created substantial tension between these rival groups of each prophet.

  • Mohammed taught that Jesus was just another of a long line of human prophets, of which he was the last. He taught that he was superior to Christ and superceded Him. In comparison, Joseph Smith also made the following claim.

“I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him, but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.”[4] In light of these parallels, perhaps Joseph Smith's claim to be a second Mohammed unwittingly became his most genuine prophecy of all.


[1] Joseph Smith made this statement at the conclusion of a speech in the public square at Far West, Missouri on October 14, 1838. This particular quote is documented in Fawn M. Brodie, No Man Knows My History, second edition, (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1971), p. 230–231. Fawn Brodie’s footnote regarding this speech contains valuable information, and follows. “Except where noted, all the details of this chapter [16] are taken from the History of the [Mormon] Church. This speech, however, was not recorded there, and the report given here is based upon the accounts of seven men. See the affidavits of T.B. Marsh, Orson Hyde, George M. Hinkle, John Corrill, W.W. Phelps, Samson Avard, and Reed Peck in Correspondence, Orders, etc., pp. 57–9, 97–129. The Marsh and Hyde account, which was made on October 24, is particularly important. Part of it was reproduced in History of the [Mormon] Church, Vol. III, p. 167. See also the Peck manuscript, p. 80. Joseph himself barely mentioned the speech in his history; see Vol. III, p. 162.”

[2] John Ankerberg & John Weldon, The Facts on Islam, (Eugene, OR: Harvest House Publishers, 1998), pp.8–9. Eric Johnson, Joseph Smith & Muhammed, (El Cajon, CA: Mormonism Research Ministry, 1998), pp. 6–7.

[3] Documentary History of the [Mormon] Church, vol.4, pp.461.

[4] Documentary History of the [Mormon] Church, vol.6, pp.408–409.




48 posted on 03/08/2012 2:00:15 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
If the people will let us alone we will preach the gospel in peace. But if they come on to molest us, we will establish our religion by the sword. We will trample down our enemies and make it one gore of blood from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic Ocean. I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was "the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword." So shall it eventually be with us -- "Joseph Smith or the Sword!"
49 posted on 03/08/2012 2:50:12 PM PST by AnTiw1 ("Where Liberty is, there is my Country." B. Franklin)
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To: Colofornian

I worked for a very wealthy guy who sent a lot of his money offshore, and planned to move there with his young family. If economics weren’t an issue for me, I’d do the same. We can no longer lay claim to the title “greatest nation on earth.” Morally, culturally, and now financially and politically, we’re just another one. But every true Christian knows this planet is dying, and it’s all temporary. America was one unique, bright shining moment in the history of mankind. And that moment seems to be coming to an end.


50 posted on 03/08/2012 3:12:35 PM PST by mikeus_maximus (I won't vote for Romney, period. Voting for "the lesser of two evils" is still voting for evil.)
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To: Elsie
we're ripe for judgment...

If America is confronted with having to chose between two God-haters in the general election, I'm inclined to believe that God's hand of judgement is already on us. I see four years of either Obama or Romney as God's punishment on a rebellious nation.

51 posted on 03/08/2012 3:25:13 PM PST by CommerceComet (If Mitt can leave the GOP to protest Reagan, why can't I do the same in protest of Romney?)
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To: Colofornian
This book is just the kind of rock the MSM is going to turn over if/when Romney gets the nomination. They will find every malcontent, anecdotal, abusive, freakish, clannish, fanatical example of this little known religion and the secular humanists of the MSM will destroy Romney and put a huge dent in the Mormon church.

Romney will look indignant and cite JFK and Catholicism from the 1960 election and it won't matter one bit. The Republicans have failed to vet their eventual nominee in the same way the Democrats failed to vet John Kerry. Both are examples of failing to see a candidate's weaknesses because of 'cultural blindness'. This cultural blindness has prevented Republicans from looking at Mitt's Mormonism in the same way the anti-war left couldn't see Kerry's weakness from Vietnam. Neither was capable of examining the candidate from the perspective of their opponent.

This is going to be a defeat of epic proportions - and gas will go to $10/gallon.

Regards,

TS

52 posted on 03/08/2012 5:47:53 PM PST by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: Colofornian

(read later)


53 posted on 03/08/2012 5:49:55 PM PST by Psalm 144 (" Ithink we ought to listen to Alinsky." - Govenor G. Romney, father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: dfwgator
Here is a book worth reading: The God Makers by Ed Decker and Dave Hunt.

Totally blows open Mormonism, especially for the practicing Mormon that has that sense of doubt, that something is just not quite right.

Available in KIndle.

54 posted on 03/09/2012 11:13:23 PM PST by CT (Make Mine Newt)
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