"Ale Mary" Dive Bar Uses Monstrance and Chalices for Drunken Revelries

Eponymous Flower ^ | March 25, 2012

[NYer]

Ping!

[for-q-clinton]

Doesn’t the bible say something about idol worship? Cups are cups and only have meaning if you make them into something more than they are.

[Ken H]

[1] Some countries have laws to punish blasphemy,[2] while others have laws to give recourse to those who are offended by blasphemy.

Do you wish for such laws in the US?

[Carriage Hill]

Ping to this...

[the invisib1e hand]

It’s Maryland, whaddaya expect?

[discostu]

I have friends in the SCA, they drink from chalices all the time. There’s nothing innately religion about chalices. And I’m not seeing “malevolent” mustached smiley. I think what this really is is a bar with a cute name.

[Deepest South]

Daniel Chapter 5

[frogjerk]

Doesn’t the bible say something about idol worship? Cups are cups and only have meaning if you make them into something more than they are.

Then the Ark of the Covenant is an idol by your logic.

The Lord also spoke about not giving what is Holy to dogs. The word "consecrated" is also in the Bible. Just some thoughts.

[Ham Hock]

The smiley face is the national bohemean beer guy:

http://nationalbohemian.com/

there is nothing malevolent about him.

I do think it’s very wrong to use holy things in a sacriligous way though.

[Mr. K]

I would be the last person to want more ‘laws’ for anything..

But it would be nice to know that if a bunch of ‘adults’ or their parents walked in and said “aren’t you ashamed of yourself for this?” that they would be.

[A.A. Cunningham]

The word chalice appears 24 times in Scripture. The word ignorance appears 23 times. Two facts you most likely are unaware of.

[lightman]

Moral outrage ping.

[Sopater]

I can see the "hand writing on the wall"...

Dan 5:1-6 Belshazzar's Feast
Belshazzar the king held a great (1)feast for a thousand of his nobles, and he was drinking wine in the presence of the thousand. (2) When Belshazzar tasted the wine, he gave orders to bring the gold and silver (2)vessels which Nebuchadnezzar his father had taken out of the temple which was in Jerusalem, so that the king and his nobles, his wives and his concubines might drink from them. (3) Then they brought the gold vessels that had been taken out of the temple, the house of God which was in Jerusalem; and the king and his nobles, his wives and his concubines drank from them. (4) They (3)drank the wine and praised the gods of (4)gold and silver, of bronze, iron, wood and stone. (5) Suddenly the fingers of a man's hand emerged and began writing opposite the lampstand on the plaster of the wall of the king's palace, and the king saw the back of the hand that did the writing. (6) Then the king's (5)face grew pale and his thoughts alarmed him, and his (6)hip joints went slack and his (7)knees began knocking together.

[for-q-clinton]

Yes if we made fake arks and worshipped them...then yes that is an idol. This is like the Muslims getting upset and violent over Mohamed’s picture.

[for-q-clinton]

Are you suggesting that only Christians who believe the chalice is some form of super powerful cup should be allowed to drink from them?

Getting outraged over this is what the Muslims do.

[GnL]

The smiley face is the national bohemean beer guy: http://nationalbohemian.com/ there is nothing malevolent about him.

Apparently you've never had a Natty Boh!

[Salvation]

Most Catholics know that religious items such as a monstrance or chalicess can NOT be sold. They can be put away and then given to a mission church is Asia, South America, Africa — even here in the U. S.

Same with vestments and other religious articles. They cannot be sold.

They are blessed and sacred because of the proper use of them.

So my question of the bar owner is — how did he/she get ahold of them in the first place?

What is happening there is sacreligious and blasphemous.

[Salvation]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2864099/posts?page=18#18

[discostu]

They’re for sale alright.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=monstrance

All that kind of stuff has always been pretty easy to buy even before the internet. Just gotta put some effort into it.