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1 posted on 04/22/2012 11:23:36 AM PDT by NYer
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Ping!


2 posted on 04/22/2012 11:24:23 AM PDT by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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I thought telling you how. To think was a hallmark of every religion?


3 posted on 04/22/2012 11:27:21 AM PDT by BigCinBigD
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And therein lies the answer to the question that opened this essay, the question presented to me not long before I became Catholic. How could I join a Church that tells me how to think? How could I not join the Church founded by Jesus Christ, the household of his Father, infused with life by her soul, the Holy Spirit? How could I think—or desire, or choose, or will—to do otherwise? And how can I, given the grace to be a Catholic, not stand up for my mother, the Church? “Because she is our mother, she is also our teacher in the faith” (CCC 169). She teaches us how to think because, alone, we know not how. Or why. Or Who.

AMEN!

7 posted on 04/22/2012 11:46:36 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I’ve heard him speak. He is also a dynamic speaker as well as writer.


8 posted on 04/22/2012 11:48:21 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The Church does not tell you what to think,
One Voluntarily Submits to it’s Teachings

some interpretations of Islam may force Submission,
but Christianity doesn’t

Voluntary Submission is required for
Confession, Contrition, and Penance


9 posted on 04/22/2012 11:53:25 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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I just celebrated my 20th anniversary of becoming Catholic. Been growing ever since.


10 posted on 04/22/2012 12:21:00 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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Very clear-minded view.


11 posted on 04/22/2012 12:52:41 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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I must’ve been a mind-numb robot.

I was twelve when I wondered into a Catholic church, one Sunday afternoon during Exposition of the Blessed Sacrament.

I saw a man in gold vestments, swinging a gold smoking object while pointing it at a gold monstrance which had a White Object in it, saw the smoke, smelled the incense, heard the bells while everyone was quiet. Looked at the many statues and, somehow I knew that this was for me. I shall always remember that scene.

That was a lifetime ago, and I never looked back.


12 posted on 04/22/2012 1:21:25 PM PDT by 353FMG
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>>the pillar and foundation of truth<<

What does a pillar do? It upholds something doesn’t it. It doesn’t create something or define something. It upholds or supports what is there. It’s the same for a foundation. It doesn’t generate something. It supports what has been built. The RCC wants people to think that it generates truth. That it can edict something which isn’t in scripture and the followers must believe it. Mariology is completely made up by the RCC using age old pagan rituals and beliefs. It has no foundation in scripture. What the RCC wants followers to believe about “the pillar and foundation of truth” is a fallacy.

13 posted on 04/22/2012 2:10:38 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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Here is another true story that can make us all think.

Although there is a TON of good stuff here, scroll down to
FATHER Lazarus El Anthony — THE LAST ANCHORITE — A hermit of the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Coptic Church in the Egyptian desert

Lazurus El anthony was a university lecturer in literature and philosophy in Australia, an atheist of 40 years and a Marxist. Then his mother died.

And he entered the desert.

His autobiography is MOST interesting.

http://stpaulbr.webs.com/foryourprivateretreats.htm


14 posted on 04/22/2012 2:55:38 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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Thanks for posting this. I am reading Pope Benedict’s book on the Eicharist, written while he was still Cardinal Ratzinger. He discusses the dissension after Vatican II and says that some poeple thought that making mass more “everyday” was what Christ wanted. He said this is why we had a series of churches built with multi-purpose areas rather than a separate church and parish hall. This struck me because that is how MY parish church was until about 8 years ago, when they gathered enough money to build a separate church and leave the mulit-purpose room to be the parish hall.

I also have struggled with parishioners who seem like they would be more happy as Methodists or something else non-Catholic, but instead are within the Church complaining and pushing false doctrine. I struggle with the abysmal music, my personal share in the sufferings of Christ.

Yet I cannot be anywhere else. One of the reasons I joined was BECAUSE of obedience, something I knew I needed to learn. And I joined because I cannot escape the idea that this is the Church Christ founded.

Now I must tell you I probably will not be here anymore. I have appreciated all the posts you have put up, but this place has become very unpleasant and is not on my list of places to visit. I came upon your post by accident.

So thank you for all of your work here over the years, and may God through Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit bless you for it.


17 posted on 04/22/2012 5:20:10 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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The first is the intellectual life. The Fundamentalism of my youth was, in sum, anti-intellectual; it looked with caution, even fearful disdain, on certain aspects of modern science, technology, and academic study.

::Sigh:: Yet another "I became a Catholic because I believe in evolution and think the Bible is full of nonsense" story.

Here's a shocker: it's not that Fundamentalists don't think. They just think differently from you.

Just why Catholics think it's so "intellectual" to listen to "science" when it denies the historical truth of Genesis 1-11 while telling science to take a hike when it denies some precious Catholic "truth" (and thus to engage in hypocrisy and internal inconsistency) is beyond me. And I've quite worn out my brain thinking about it.

73 posted on 04/23/2012 5:51:18 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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