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Bishop Matthew Clark leaving indelible mark on diocese (Officially retired!!)
Clerical Whispers ^ | July 17, 2012

Posted on 07/17/2012 3:24:32 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 07/17/2012 3:24:37 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
A 'taste' of Bishop Clark's legacy to the catholics in the Diocese of Rochester.


From a recent Chrism Mass in the Cathedral of the Diocese of Rochester, NY.


Retiring priest, Fr. Donnelly has been serving as the “Sacramental Minister” under laywoman “pastoral administrator” Anne-Marie Brogan (in alb behind the priest), who will continue on in that role.

Good bye and good riddance! Just one more year until we bid farewell to Albany NY Bishop Hubbard, who wreckovated this diocese as well.

2 posted on 07/17/2012 3:29:03 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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I’m very happy for the denizens of the Rochester diocese, and prayers for patience to those in Albany.


3 posted on 07/17/2012 3:39:49 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Keeping the drama to a minimum)
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To: NYer

Sadly, after 33 years of nonsense, it will take almost that long to recover with a diocesan bureaucracy firmly ensconced to resist any changes in the orthodox direction, with either open defiance or on the down-low (yes I used that term deliberately.)

The only hope is if a new ordinary is appointed who has the cajones to require that all diocesan employees submit resignations that he can choose to refuse or not on his own terms.


4 posted on 07/17/2012 3:40:35 PM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: NYer
This wolf in shepherd's clothing has done an awful lot of harm to the Church.

If he wants to be a protestant, there are dozens of denominations out there that would welcome him. If he wants female clerics, the Episcopalians would be glad to get him. If he wants to minister to the homosexual crowd, double ditto.

Why do these people stay in a Church that they obviously don't believe in? In business, we wouldn't accept a guy taking an executive salary from Coca-Cola and promoting Pepsi every time he turned around . . . no matter how much the guy said he liked Coca-Cola and just wanted it to change to be more like Pepsi . . . .

5 posted on 07/17/2012 3:42:08 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer

Yet Clark is in “full communion” with Rome. Is it any wonder many Catholics do not take the appellation of “full communion” (or threat of lack thereof) seriously?

It’s hard to defend the Faith when Rome has failed to defend its faithful from wolves like Clark.


6 posted on 07/17/2012 4:18:38 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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Looks like Fr. Donnelly is holding up a plate of tacos and everyone else a bowel of Chex-mix. Nuts!


7 posted on 07/17/2012 4:40:46 PM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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Good riddance. Unfortunately, after 33 years, the terrible legacy of a generation of improperly taught Catholic children will take quite a while to undo. They don’t know what they don’t know and they are raising their own children now.

More good seed that the crows will snatch away.

Come, Holy Spirit, and enkindle the hearts of your faithful.


8 posted on 07/17/2012 4:44:45 PM PDT by Melian ("Where will wants not, a way opens.")
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
It would seem that the Church should be able to devise a better plan than merely waiting for the retirement magic number of 75 to roll around to remove these Church-harmers.

Maybe if they reassigned a few of these loose cannon/canon Bishops and Priests to some more exotic places, like Antartica, or Siberia, or some place like that, before they reach 75, they might make other wobbly clerics think a bit more carefully before going off the deep end theologically or liturgically.

9 posted on 07/17/2012 4:50:20 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("The Church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth." (1 Timothy 3:15))
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To: NYer
The exchange occurred only a quarter of the way through his tenure, but is a microcosm of Matthew Clark’s 33-year career as bishop of the Rochester diocese.

Sounds like a real pain in the ass.

10 posted on 07/17/2012 5:00:54 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Heart-Rest

the church, the country, and the world are where they right here right now because the watchman slept.


11 posted on 07/17/2012 5:02:15 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Tax-chick; ArrogantBustard; ninenot

There is nothing wrong with Clark that burning him at the stake after a proper auto-da-fe would not cure (at least on earth). We need not limit the discipline to Clark. We need to add Howard Hubba Hubba Hubbard, Rembert Weakland, Charles Curran, and soooo many, many more of their ilk.


12 posted on 07/17/2012 5:22:04 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: NYer

**that Clark was not to defend the man’s opinions any more.

But Clark didn’t back down.**

I bet the REAL Catholics of the Rochester diocese are so happy that he will be leaving soon.

Does he stay until he is replaced? Or has his replacement even been named yet?


13 posted on 07/17/2012 5:34:53 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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This picture is a pi8cture of liturgical abuse.

Only the priest is to be at the altar, unless altar servers are there.

Also the hosts do not look genuine.

I agree with you, “Good riddance.”

Hopefully the woman goes too. She knows nothing about liturgy by participating in this way.


14 posted on 07/17/2012 5:37:36 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BlackElk

You know what they say, “The walls of hell are lined with the skulls of bishops.”

Well, here’s another skull — although I really can’t judge. Perhaps he will re-covert on his deathbed.


15 posted on 07/17/2012 5:41:19 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Heart-Rest

Just be patient, time does fly fast.


16 posted on 07/17/2012 7:54:12 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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The burning at the stake will never happen.


17 posted on 07/17/2012 7:57:47 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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Isn’t this the diocese that Bishop Peter John “Fulton” Sheen once ministered? Things sure changed rather quickly after he left.


18 posted on 07/17/2012 9:25:54 PM PDT by Coleus
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“I have so much love for this man, because he doesn’t really care who he pisses off,” said Wahl. “He will go as far as he can while still staying within the letter of the law so he can continue to be a shepherd for the Rochester gay Catholic community.”

The Bishop was obviously not being a very good 'shepherd', if he was allowing his flock to go over the cliff of sin, without even attempting to 'call them back' to repentance.

19 posted on 07/17/2012 11:19:37 PM PDT by SuziQ
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More’s the shame. As Cicero once said: O tempora, O mores! They would make a lovely light!


20 posted on 07/18/2012 12:45:01 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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