New revelation: Mormons can drink Coke or Pepsi

National Post ^ | Sep 4, 2012 | Religion News Service

[freedomlover]

SALT LAKE CITY — Maybe now, reporters, bloggers, outsiders and even many Mormons will accept that the Utah-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not forbid drinking cola.

On Aug. 29, the LDS church posted a statement on its website saying that “the church does not prohibit the use of caffeine” and that the faith’s health-code reference to “hot drinks” “does not go beyond (tea and coffee).”

A day later, the website wording was slightly softened, saying only that “the church revelation spelling out health practices … does not mention the use of caffeine.”

The same goes for the church’s two-volume handbook, which LDS leaders use to guide their congregations. It says plainly that “the only official interpretation of ‘hot drinks’ … in the Word of Wisdom is the statement made by early church leaders that the term ‘hot drinks’ means tea and coffee.”

[brightright]

Yes you are so right. I think they are afraid to look at Romney’s record. I understand the people who know his record but feel they need to hold their nose to vote. I’ve been their done that. I know Obama can do a lot of damage in 4 more years, about as much as Romney can do in 8yrs. This country needs a real change not just a change from D to R.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Years ago I read that when the mormons got to Utah they started up their own wine and liquor manufacturing for many years.

One of their “enforcers” Danite or Avenging Angel, died after choking on his own vomit after a night of boozing.

The mormon press eulogized him as a good church member.

The anti-mormon press eulogy was not good to him, calling him one who slit a throat or murdered women and children.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***What is your denomination? I will do some research on it and trash it. Thanks . Specifically , I need the name of the church.***

For speaking the truth? Remember, It was not the CHRISTIANS who stumbled out of the woods claiming they had seen visions and angels and God, and Jesus, and that all churches were wrong and that he was right and if you didn’t believe every word he said, he would stand at the door of Heaven and keep you out. He threw down the gauntlet, the CHRISTIANS picked it up and the mormons have been getting their tails whooped in debates since.

As for mormon underwear, I dated a strong mormon girl but she did not have on any underwear at all. ;-D

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***I have attended Baptist, Catholic, and most recently, Mormon churches.***

But which ones did you her REAL PREACHING in? EXpositions on the word of God!

My bet is Baptist and Catholic, but not mormons. You sing a few hymns, break bread and drink WATER, then break up for classes in which various MORMON church doctrines or histories are taught, but NO EXPOSITIONAL TEACHING ON THE WORD OF GOD!

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

The Republican Party was founded by a coalition of Whigs, Anti-Slavery, anti-polygamy people.

And now the descendents of slaves vote for the party of SLAVERY, and the descendents of the Polygamists is THE GOP candidate for President.

What a strange twist of fate!

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***This week’s revelation from the Planet Kolob is that soft-drinks are now OK to drink.***

Maybe we will see the day when an LDS revelation changes the water into cola in their communion service.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***But if there was one good thing about LDS’s dietary rules, NOT drinking Pepsi, Coke, etc., was probably it!***

I remember that mormons ate anything that didn’t bite them first, drawing the line at alcoholic and caaffenated drinks.

If you really want legalism in foods, look at the Seventh Day Adventists.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

****It just goes to show you when you lie, the events always change.***

This is an old cop trick. You get the suspect to tell what he knows, then a little later ask again, and again, and again.

If the stories don’t add up then you start pointing out the difference and watch the suspect sweat.

[CommerceComet]

You can answer to God one day for this.

Why should I dread that? If the Lord were to ask me about my vote in this election, I would have a ready answer (which He would already know since He knows my heart).

Lord, I didn't vote for Barak Obama because I believe that he has shown himself by his actions to be an enemy of You and Your Church. Lord, I didn't vote for Mitt Romney because his politics didn't differ that much from Obama's and by his actions, Romney showed himself to be a supporter of abortion and of gay marriage which your Word forbids. In addition, Mitt Romney is an enthusiastic proponent of a false gospel which lead people away from You. I couldn't see how a vote for either would be pleasing in your sight.

Even if I were supporting Obama (which I'm not), it's not the unforgiveable sin. In the unlikely event that I'm in sin for not voting for Romney, I'm in luck. The blood of Christ covers that "sin" just like any other.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Romney agrees with 85% of our position”

Ha! You believed him? Words are cheap. He remains pro gay, pro abortion, statist, etc.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“I think Jesus would cast his vote for Romney over the zer0.”

This assumes Jesus Christ would vote. Why do you think that?

[Elsie]

Mormons can drink Coke or Pepsi

HELLO!!!

They always COULD!!

Unless it was HOT!!!

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THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 89

 

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.

 

1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.

 

  1 A ^aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—

  2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the ^aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and ^bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—

  3 Given for a principle with ^apromise, adapted to the capacity of the ^bweak and the weakest of all ^csaints, who are or can be called saints.

  4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of ^aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of ^bconspiring men in the last days, I have ^cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—

  5 That inasmuch as any man ^adrinketh ^bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.

  6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, ^apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.

  7 And, again, ^astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.

  8 And again, tobacco is not for the ^abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.

  9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.

  10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome ^aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—

  11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with ^aprudence and ^bthanksgiving.

  12 Yea, ^aflesh also of ^bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used ^csparingly;

  13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be ^aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or ^bfamine.

  14 All ^agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;

  15 And ^athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.

  16 All grain is good for the ^afood of man; as also the ^bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—

  17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.

  18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ^ashall receive ^bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;

  19 And shall ^afind ^bwisdom and great ^ctreasures of ^dknowledge, even hidden treasures;

  20 And shall ^arun and not be ^bweary, and shall walk and not faint.

  21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the ^adestroying angel shall ^bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.

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[Elsie]

It says plainly that “the only official interpretation of ‘hot drinks’ … in the Word of Wisdom is the statement made by early church leaders that the term ‘hot drinks’ means tea and coffee.”

Rank and file MORMONs not only are taught to NOT think for themselves, but to FOLLOW what the Living Prophet® tells them, that their OWN 'scriptures' have to be 'interpreted' for them!

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I wonder what the 'interpretation' of verses 12-13 above comes out after the MORMON spin cycle.

[Elsie]

And if Romney gets in....

Who?

I hope that NO one has a picture of him chowing down on some nice ribs or other bar-b-que items this summer!

THAT would sure blast his Temple Worthiness card© right out of the water!!!!

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Temple Recommend Questions

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1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

Temple Recommend Questions

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1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

[Elsie]

When they let you drink an occasional glass of wine or beer, let me know.

Well; they'd have to get rid of D&C 89:5, first.

No!

WAIT!!

They STILL have D&C 132:58-66 and they IGNORE that!

[Elsie]

The Mormon Church was founded in a period of American History that was very strong in the Temperence Movement.

Yeah...

THAT worked out well!!

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http://en.fairmormon.org/Word_of_Wisdom/Joseph_Smith_sold_liquor_in_Nauvoo

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http://en.fairmormon.org/Word_of_Wisdom/Brigham_Young's_whiskey_distillery

[DannyTN]

"And just when I thought you'd seen the light, you forgot that if Obama supports something like gay marriage, it's evil, evil, evil but if Romney supports something like gay marriage (like he did in Massachusetts), it's good, good, good."

There for a moment when the light inside MNJohnnie's head was shining, it was a choice between the Evil One and "Yes, folks, Moderna Designs present the latest in kitchen luxury. The Moderna Wondermajor all-automatic convenience centerette." (Time Bandits) What an easy choice. Who wouldn't want that. And then bigotry and hysteria descended, there was an explosion and a voice said, "It's evil! Don't touch it!"

[Elsie]

Bigotry isn’t funny. I am not a Mormon, but I do respect people’s (even yours) religious beliefs.

ALLAH thanks you for your respect and support!!!

[Elsie]

Bigotry isn’t funny.

Pointing out false teachings from false prophets is not bigotry; but a REQUIREMENT; if one is an observant Christian.

[Elsie]

Now, be a good boy and go out and support Mitt Romney for President because he is a damn site better than the Marxist Muslim Kenyan Keynsian liar in the Oval Office now.

It's ok to put your country first and the fate of men's souls second (or third).

This country allows that freedom.

And steve will even support your right to do so.