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Sister Simone Campbell, ‘Nun from the Bus,’ rips Republicans at Democratic convention
RNS ^ | September 5, 2012 | David Gibson

Posted on 09/06/2012 12:47:40 PM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

She might be a Catholic but she’s a socialist as well; making synonyms out of the terms “society” and “government” and placing HER benevolent priorities on the backs of taxpayers and under the control of government - NOT society.

Socialist Christian tell themselves and everyone else that THEY want to “give” more to certain “charitable” causes, but they lie to themselves; they do not really believe that they want to give more; they want to take more; because even in a democracy socialism is no more than 51 out of 100 deciding how much they claim the right to take from the other 49. Such demands have nothing to do with Christian giving.


41 posted on 09/06/2012 2:20:49 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: NYer
Not Catholic here.
But wasn’t excommunication by “Bell, Book & Candle” created for this type of miscreant?
42 posted on 09/06/2012 2:21:23 PM PDT by Reily
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To: NYer

Anytime the thought of leaving the Catholic Church crossed my mind I decided that the better course was to stay and keep fighting to try and change it for the better.

If the majority ever turned up agreeing with this nun though I’d have to reconsider.


43 posted on 09/06/2012 2:22:30 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: oncebitten
Cain's question to God, "am I my brother's keeper?"--

--was a sarcastic response, and

--was not answered in the affirmative my the Almighty.

Abel didn't need his brother to be his keeper.

He didn't need Cain to be his murderer, either, and that's the whole point.

By the way, anyone who sets up to be my keeper is going to be in for a certain degree of resistance right off the bat, which will only escalate.

44 posted on 09/06/2012 2:24:15 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Wait a minute! Romney doesn't suck? I'm trying to keep up.)
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To: kenavi
"If we had had tariffs, we could have avoided the Great Depression, and all the many ones that preceded it."

WRONG!

We did have tariffs during those times. Those depressions were caused by the business cycle and being on the gold standard, which caused periodic bouts of deflation which resulted in deflationary depressions.

Going into the Great Depression, imports were only 4% of GNP and exports were 5%. The net change in Imports/Exports during the Great Depression was only 0.2% of GNP.

During the Great Depression we raised Import tariffs up much higher than normal (Smoot Harley) and Smoot Harley was blamed by some for causing the Great Depression. Only two things are wrong with that. We were already in the Depression when Smoot Harley was enacted, and international trade simply wasn't a big enough component of GNP to be the cause.

Now imports are 16% of our economy. And when you consider how large the wage differential is between third world countries such as China and the U.S., you can see that 16% equates to a much larger pre-outsourced piece of the U.S. economy.

Example, if you take products that are 80% labor at $8/hr jobs and outsource them to countries that work for $2/day ($0.25/hr). A $10 product ($2 material + $8 labor) now costs ($2 + $0.25) = $2.25. Then $2.25 of imports was worth $10 in the pre-outsourced American economy.

That outsourcing is good for consumers, but they quickly lose their jobs and cease to be consumers as the economy canibalizes itself.

You will not avoid the business cycle complete no matter what you do, because it's rooted in consumer psychology. However, monetary policy is effective and minimizing it, and thus we've only had recessions not depressions since the Great Depression.

But the current economic crisis is different specifically because of the amount of goods that we have outsourced. Your can see that in the (Imports = 4% of GNP in 1930, vs 16% of GNP now). We've seriously damaged the job base in the U.S. and neither candidate seems to recognize it.

45 posted on 09/06/2012 2:25:36 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: demsux

I didn’t leave the Catholic Church, it left me
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Likewise.
I even gave it a 2nd chance and couldn’t believe how much worse it had gotten - at least in my opinion, which in the case of religious choices, mine/yours is the ONLY one that counts for the individual.


47 posted on 09/06/2012 2:32:17 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: netmilsmom
"So no matter how many entitlements the government gives and no matter how much “the poor” make, we can never cut them?"

I didn't say never. I said "arbitrary" cuts to medicaid at this time was wrong and the 'rats were right to hit Ryan over it.

"Did you know that EVERY woman over the age of 35, regardless of income can get WIC (one of the programs reduced in the Ryan budget)? When my husband made 60,000 a year, I could get WIC with my younger daughter because I was 39."

That's not what the USDA site says, it says "To be eligible for WIC, applicants must have income at or below an income level or standard set by the State agency or be determined automatically income-eligible based on participation in certain programs."

But even if that were true, then a specific cut that installed income eligibility would be appropriate and defendable, not an arbitrary cut.

"So let’s get realistic about “cuts to the poor”. Maybe they are perfectly reasonable. My niece..."

I don't know the specifics of your niece or your situation. I'd be in favor of combining all assistance programs and itemizing the assistance that each person gets, so that total assistance can be reviewed for abuse.

I don't really have a problem with poor people having a phone on the government's dime as long as long distance can't be abused. Cell phones are now cheaper than land lines. And how do you get a job without a phone? What are we talking about $10/month? And I haven't heard of a program that fixes cars free.

49 posted on 09/06/2012 2:37:09 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: NormsRevenge
She may be a nun but I’m having none of it.

I suspect her "Sisters of Social Service" is just a gathering place for feminist lesbian Marxists.

50 posted on 09/06/2012 2:38:54 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: netmilsmom
When my husband made 60,000 a year, I could get WIC with my younger daughter because I was 39

That must be a state thing. It definitely isn't true in my state.

51 posted on 09/06/2012 2:41:30 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: PapaBear3625

“I suspect her “Sisters of Social Service” is just a gathering place for feminist lesbian Marxists.”

You hit the nail on the head. The good news is that Simone is one of the younger members of that “community.” They get extremely few new recruits and are rapidly dying out. Last one out, turn off the lights.


53 posted on 09/06/2012 2:44:07 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: steve86

*Although if one had five kids or more, yes, the family would qualify with a gross income of $60,000. But no relation to mother’s age, at least in my state.


54 posted on 09/06/2012 2:46:03 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: oncebitten
This nun's group was specifically singled out by a Vatican investigation for not keeping with approved Catholic doctrine.
55 posted on 09/06/2012 2:49:34 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: NYer

The Catholic church has long had some liberal strands. They love illegals for instance and have been way too friendly to gay child molesters.


56 posted on 09/06/2012 2:58:42 PM PDT by Woodsman27
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To: steve86

Of course, $60,000 now and then are two real different quantities.


57 posted on 09/06/2012 2:59:05 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: DannyTN
Ping your post. "But the current economic crisis is different specifically because of the amount of goods that we have outsourced. Your can see that in the (Imports = 4% of GNP in 1930, vs 16% of GNP now). We've seriously damaged the job base in the U.S. and neither candidate seems to recognize it. "

I'm going to look beyond the big 2. I don't want to waste my vote by giving a mandate to someone who ignores your point.

58 posted on 09/06/2012 3:12:39 PM PDT by ex-snook (without forgiveness there is no Christianity)
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To: demsux
SHE'S not the Catholic Church.

In fact, she's apparently abandoning the Catholic Faith.

You hardly make your point very clear by doing the same.

60 posted on 09/06/2012 3:15:20 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The severed hand does not save the body.")
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