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Authoress Suggests Very Religious Are Mental Cases
The Christian Diarist | September 19, 2012 | JP

Posted on 09/19/2012 7:38:58 AM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Erica Loberg doesn’t come right out and say it, but the author of “Inside the Insane” believes that those of us who are very religious – or “hyper religious,” as she describes us – are mentally ill.

“Are there are lot of hyper religio(us) people walking around with schizophrenia or hypo mania and not even know it?,” she asks. “Can religion be a springboard to help discover a mental illness?”

Loberg doesn’t answer her own questions, but it’s pretty obvious what she thinks: Religiosity is a marker for mental illness, if not insanity.

When I checked Loberg’s biography, I discovred that the author has no training whatsoever in psychiatry. In fact, she received a degree in English from Columbia University.

She deems herself qualified to write about mental illness, to suggest that there is some sort of correlation between religious devotion and mental illness, because she spent some time in hospital psych wards in Los Angeles County working with the mentally ill

And, oh yes, she was, herself, a psych patient at one time.

Under normal circumstances, I wouldn’t give Loberg’s not-so-subtle disparagement of the religiously devout a second thought.

But her disparagement appeared in an essay she wrote that appears on Psych Central, the largest and oldest online mental health social network. And her essay has been republished on Google News, giving it an exponentially wider audience.

Many will read Loberg’s essay and unwittingly think she has scientific or clinical evidence to support her hypothesis that a lot of very religious people are walking around with a screw loose.

But they will be wrong. Because Loberg’s hypothesis is based solely on her personal anecdotes.

“When I worked in psych wards,” she wrote, “patients that were considered ‘hyper’ religious would carry a Bible under their arm all day long or point out passages that spoke to them directly.”

So the amateur shrink asked herself “what the correlation was between the Bible and individuals suffering from a mental illness.”

Loberg is guilty of what trained psychiatrists call “projection.” Because she once had a faith life herself, because she also suffered a mental illness, she believes that there must have been some correlation.

But neither God, nor the Bible were responsible for Loberg’s bout of mental illness. The authoress should blame instead the inner demons with which she was afflicted.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: 2012; antireligion; bloggersandpersonal; democrats; elitism; ericaloberg; junkscience; liberalfascism; liberallunacy; liberals; loberg; mentalillness; mentallyillauthor; moralabsolutes; nutjob; progressives; science; vanity
Those hostile to religion, like Loberg, who fell away from the faith of her youth, often employ questionable – if not downright fraudulent – “science” to justify their hostility.
1 posted on 09/19/2012 7:39:05 AM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

“Authoress Suggests Very Religious Are Mental Cases”

Does she mean like the ‘Let’s kill everyone who isn’t Muslim’ Terrorists???


2 posted on 09/19/2012 7:41:29 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
hypo mania

What's that? Fear of vaccines?

3 posted on 09/19/2012 7:43:37 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Eat Mor Chikin!)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Homosexual behavior is insane. A male trying to mate with another male’s anal canal is insane. A female trying to mate with another female using a rubber appliance is insane. It’s like having Aunt Rosie sitting at your dinner table tring to eat by sticking a turkey baster in her ear and telling you that’s her life style. It may be, but it’s still insane behavior.


4 posted on 09/19/2012 7:45:56 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Hyperreligiousity is quite recognizable and is very different from what any religious person would consider normal. Carrying a Bible around with them is the least of their problems.


5 posted on 09/19/2012 7:46:20 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Yeah, because atheist countries like the USSR and North Korea have always been utopias.


6 posted on 09/19/2012 7:46:43 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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7 posted on 09/19/2012 7:49:00 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

They are also those are the ones who are suffering from mental illness.

“God gives not a spirit of fear, but of power, love and a sound mind.”


8 posted on 09/19/2012 7:52:12 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
It depends to a great degree on what religion we're talking about and how we're defining "hyper religious".

Christianity,and Judaism are basically peaceful and positive.Those who adhere to either one,even very firmly,cannot reasonably be considered to be of low intelligence or mentally ill.I don't know enough about Hinduism or Buddhism to make a judgment either way but I have a hunch that the same can be said of them as well.

OTOH,"Satanism" and The Religion of Pieces are a different matter altogether.The same could probably be said of other religions as well.

9 posted on 09/19/2012 7:53:27 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama's Reelected Imagine The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: ZX12R
Having known snake handlers I can say this about that, theologically they are very similar to ordinary Methodists ~ except they take snakes to church with them.

They teach that if you do not use snakes in church you will go to hell.

Any snakehandler who tells you he's Pentecostal isn't really using poisonous snakes ~ you get to jumping and jerking around those critters will bite you right now.

10 posted on 09/19/2012 7:53:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

how about religions like environmentalists,
who want millions to die, to “preserve the planet”?
or religions like communism ?
or even, religions like Atheism
(which IS a religion. unlike agnostics,
atheists BELIEVE there is no God.
even if they admit there is no evidence.
so, it is a belief, based on faith.)


11 posted on 09/19/2012 7:54:10 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SMARTY

Exactly what I thought. Will the author take responsibility for deaths and rioting abroad when Muslims realize they’ve been insulted?


12 posted on 09/19/2012 7:56:43 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

This broad is a kook.


13 posted on 09/19/2012 7:58:28 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
But her disparagement appeared in an essay she wrote that appears on Psych Central, the largest and oldest online mental health social network. And her essay has been republished on Google News, giving it an exponentially wider audience.

Many will read Loberg’s essay and unwittingly think she has scientific or clinical evidence to support her hypothesis that a lot of very religious people are walking around with a screw loose.

Actually it is a little worse than that.

What is at work here is that people will have their personal prejudices reinforced.

People who by their personal thoughts and attitudes consider the religious odd or personally repellant will give this woman’s personal unfounded opinion a weight of authority that it in no way deserves simply because it was published.

The Left frequently uses this propaganda technique to great effect to counter the Right’s historically proven economic policies.

It is certainly no coincidence that this article and book are coming out shortly before a national election where the Religious Right is a voting block on which the Republicans must depend to carry the election.

The Leftist media will seize on this article to try and push a few undecided voters away from the Republican camp simply by having these voters not want to associate themselves with the mentally ill.

14 posted on 09/19/2012 7:58:58 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
When I checked Loberg’s biography, I discovred that the author has no training whatsoever in psychiatry. In fact, she received a degree in English from Columbia University.

Considering that psychology is a soft science in which you make it up as you go along, I find her credentials to be adequate.

15 posted on 09/19/2012 7:59:26 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: ZX12R

That is an interesting picture. I was born and raised in West Virginia, which, as I understand it, is one of two states in which snake-handling during religious services is still lawful. Once in a while I see a headline come from WV along the lines of “Pastor with 30 years of snake-handling experience dies from snakebite”.


16 posted on 09/19/2012 8:01:23 AM PDT by patriotsblood
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Actually, it is the rejection of Christianity with its soul saving power that is insanity....


17 posted on 09/19/2012 8:01:51 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Secularism, PC, is a religious creed, insisting on compliance.

Failure to comply with its doctrine begins with scorn and, later, to death. Death is the end game.

Its god is the power of government.

Its sacrificial mass is abortion.


18 posted on 09/19/2012 8:02:06 AM PDT by lurk
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Actually, it is the rejection of Jesus with His soul saving power that is insanity....


19 posted on 09/19/2012 8:02:44 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

About Erica Loberg

by John M. Grohol, Psy.D.
August 7, 2012

http://blogs.psychcentral.com/manic-depression/files/2012/08/erica-loberg.jpg

Erica Loberg was born and raised in Los Angeles, CA. She attended Columbia University in New York and graduated with a BA in English.

She is a published poet and author of Inside the Insane. Her book is a memoir that takes an in-depth look at her own struggles with Bipolar II coupled with a look at inpatient psychiatric wards in Los Angeles County, California.

“I was diagnosed with Bipolar II in 2006 and find little education on living with bipolar II versus Bipolar I,” says Erica. “Often times I try to hone in on that experiences since it is less understood or discussed in our culture than bipolar I disease. I also work with the mentally ill so glean material from that experience to further advocate for mental illness awareness.”

http://blogs.psychcentral.com/manic-depression/about/


20 posted on 09/19/2012 8:05:10 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: randog
My guess is that Columbia's English Dept. is packed with Marxists.

That's one of the first places that they hide fellow travelers when the PoliSci Dept is full up.

21 posted on 09/19/2012 8:09:17 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

We should care what this NUTJOB thinks?!

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http://ericaloberg.com/

Erica Loberg@ericaloberg

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Erica Loberg@ericaloberg

who the f**k eats caulflower? the fact i can’t spell it makes me feel good. what does it taste like? air made into a healthy “vegetable”

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Erica Loberg

@ericaloberg

Writing is easy. Living is not.

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22 posted on 09/19/2012 8:09:23 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.

1 Cor 1:21

Yeah, we look like nuts. I think C.S. Lewis said Jesus was either nuts or the savior of the world. So it's not surprising that his followers would be viewed as nuts.

23 posted on 09/19/2012 8:09:54 AM PDT by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: patriotsblood
“Pastor with 30 years of snake-handling experience dies from snakebite”.

I guess he must have been a bad boy since the last service.
24 posted on 09/19/2012 8:11:33 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

We should send her to the Mid East to further her study. She could publish her next tome in Al Zera.(sp)


25 posted on 09/19/2012 8:15:55 AM PDT by Big Mack (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat VEGETABLES!)
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To: hecticskeptic

If my Christian beliefs reveal me to be insane, then I will be covered by the ADA, and immune from discrimination. Bring it on liberals.


26 posted on 09/19/2012 8:18:39 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

The only thing crazy about today’s Christians, is that they have 1000 cheeks, two cloaks in the garage, and no sword.

When Paul was bitten by a snake, he didn’t seek bipartisan accords with it, he threw it into the fire.

And he didn’t look to get bit again to prove anything to the anybody who missed it. And that’s the name of THAT tune.


27 posted on 09/19/2012 8:37:32 AM PDT by Tuanedge
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To: randog

“the author has no training whatsoever in psychiatry”
She doesn’t Need any to dovetail perfectly with the psychiatric/humanist gestalt.

http://psychquotes.com/

Psychiatry’s Views on Religion

“Religion (is) a universal obsessional neurosis.”
Sigmund Freud, defining spiritual belief

“Religion is an illusion and it derives its strength from the fact that it falls in with our instinctual desires.”
Sigmund Freud

“The religions of mankind must be classed among the mass-delusions of this kind. No one, needless to say, who shares a delusion ever recognizes it as such...”
Sigmund Freud

“Civilization runs a greater risk if we maintain our present attitude to religion than if we give it up.”
Sigmund Freud

“In short, the nature of the hallucinations of Jesus, as they are described in the orthodox Gospels, permits us to conclude that the founder of the Christian religion was afflicted with religious paranoia.”
Psychiatrist Dr. Charles Binet-Sangle: La Folie de Jesus (The Madness of Jesus), 1910

“…Jesus Christ might simply have returned to his carpentry following the use of modern psychiatric treatments.”
William Sargant, British psychiatrist, 1974

“No one knows just how the idea of a soul or the supernatural started… It probably had its origin in the general laziness of mankind.”
John B. Watson, behavioral psychologist

“This dogma (the soul) has been present in human psychology from earliest antiquity. No one has ever touched the soul, or has seen one in a test tube, or has in any way come into a relationship with it as he has with the other objects of his daily experience.”
John B. Watson, behavioral psychologist

“I regard myself as one of the most dangerous enemies of religion”
Sigmund Freud

“The soul or consciousness, which played the leading part in the past, now is of very little importance; in any case both are deprived of their main functions and glory to such an extent that only the names remain. Behaviorism sang their funeral dirge while materialism – the smiling heir – arranges a suitable funeral for them.”
Statement delivered at the Sixth International Congress of Philosophy at Harvard University

“…humanists still believe that traditional theism, especially faith in the prayer-hearing God, assumed to love and care for persons, to hear and understand their prayers, and to be able to do something about them, is an unproved and outmoded faith.” “Traditional moral codes… fail to meet the pressing needs of today and tomorrow…” “Promises of immortal salvation or fear of eternal damnation are both illusory and harmful… The total personality is a function of the biological organism transacting in a social and cultural context. There is no credible evidence that life survives the death of the body.”
The Humanist Manifesto 2, 1973

“All neurotics seek the religious”
Psychologist Carl Jung

“It should be recognized that an acceptance of the mental health viewpoint… carries an obligation to examine critically some of the teaching of the churches in the light of present-day insight into what seems to be essential to wholesome personality development and into what is now known to be detrimental to the growing personality of the child.”
Psychiatrist at World Federation of Mental Health (WFMH) Conference

“Pastoral psychology understands itself as a help for the communities in view of ‘group dynamic’ proceedings –e.g., the processes of rivalization, or the search for scapegoats, harmonization or shifting guilt, which… can determine life in a community so strongly that the succession of Jesus Christ is no longer paid heed”
The German Association for Pastoral Psychology Magazine – Ways To Man

“What is the relationship between wholeness and holiness?… What does personal responsibility mean in the light of the findings or psychoanalysis? Do the words right and wrong, have any further usefulness in the light of our new knowledge of compulsive behavior patterns? I believe it’s one of the tragedies of Christianity that it has got itself all mixed up with morality…”
Canon Sydney Evans, National Association for Mental Health, 1967

“The word soul has lost its meaning and even its plausibility…. Faith, hope and love can no longer be seen simply as virtues or graces; they are processes in flesh and blood… (the clergyman) will find that whether he wants it or not, he is also a front-line mental health worker or he will be so regarded by the specialists in mental health. It is on the pastoral role and the tasks of shepherding that the psychological disciples have the greatest impact in theological work.”
Paul Pruyser, psychologist, author: “The Seamy Side of Current Religious Beliefs”

“In recent years pastoral counselors have separated from their parishes and emerged as a psychotherapy profession…. This professionalization process includes a shift away from parish-based counseling to counseling centers or medical settings, declining interest in religious practices and convictions, increased interest in psychological practices and theories, the charging of fees, and increased institutional and professional barriers to those individuals perceived as poor counseling clients or unable to pay…. There is also… growing deviation from a religious orientation to a pseudopsychiatric orientation.”
American Journal of Psychiatry, March 1986

“We can therefore justifiably stress our particular point of view with regard to the proper development of the human psyche, even though our knowledge be incomplete. We must aim to make it permeate every educational activity in our national life…. We have made a useful attack upon a number of professions. The two easiest of them naturally are the teaching profession and the Church: the two most difficult are law and medicine.”
Dr. John Rawlings Rees, “Strategic Planning for Mental Health”, June 18, 1940

“To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas...”
G. Brock Chisholm, psychiatrist and co-founder of the World Federation of Mental Health

“The danger is that these psychologies may, to one degree or another, replace Christianity without most people even noticing that any substitution has taken place.”
Christianity Today, 1994


28 posted on 09/19/2012 8:40:20 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

She suffers from GDS - God Derangement Syndrome


29 posted on 09/19/2012 8:45:36 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

She suffers from GDS - God Derangement Syndrome


30 posted on 09/19/2012 8:45:47 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
I am devout and hypomanic...where's my disability check?

BTW, hypomania is the kind of disorder that Churchill had...slight symptoms of mania but fully-functioning.

31 posted on 09/19/2012 8:46:22 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

this is very USSR of her.


32 posted on 09/19/2012 8:53:57 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Authoress? Don’t think I’ve ever heard that word before.


33 posted on 09/19/2012 8:57:38 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Well, let me think a minute -————————

Yeah, pretty much.


34 posted on 09/19/2012 9:05:55 AM PDT by procrustes (You make Free Republic look bad!)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Loberg doesn’t “know” she’s religious in her own right. Her “god” is self. Therefore, she’s right there with those she tries to paint with the insanity brush.


35 posted on 09/19/2012 10:58:45 AM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Where’s the link?


36 posted on 09/19/2012 12:50:30 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

I take it this woman is talking mostly about devout Christians and Jews? Funny how liberals’ anti-religious mania does not extend to Muslims. Maybe it’s because Jews and Christians don’t behead people who insult their religions? If they did there would be no libtards left in America.


37 posted on 09/19/2012 5:23:34 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

I’m not surprised. Psychiatrists and priests both fulfill the human need to talk about personal problems. The difference is the priests do it because they believe it is their God-given duty whereas psychiatrists do it for the money. Why pay a shrink hundreds of dollars when you can go to confession for free? So of course the psychiatrists have to bash religion, say the religious are mentally ill, do whatever it takes to stop people from realizing that they are being grossly overcharged for services that used to be free (and still are for those unafraid of going to church).


38 posted on 09/19/2012 5:36:20 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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To: Boogieman

What she’s called is the least of her problems.


39 posted on 09/19/2012 5:38:46 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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