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Pius X Society expels Bishop Williamson for disobedience
cna ^ | October 24, 2012

Posted on 10/24/2012 3:22:30 PM PDT by NYer

Menzingen, Switzerland, Oct 24, 2012 / 12:10 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- The Society of St. Pius X has expelled Bishop Richard Williamson, saying he has distanced himself from the traditionalist Catholic group’s leadership and he has refused “to show due respect and obedience to his lawful superiors.”

The Switzerland-based society said Oct. 24 that the “painful” decision was necessary because of “concern for the common good” and for the good government of the society.

The society’s Superior General Bishop Bernard Fellay and his council declared the bishop to be excluded on Oct. 4. Bishop Williamson, in response to a final deadline for him to declare his obedience to the society, published an open letter asking the superior general to resign.

The Society of St. Pius X broke from Rome in 1988 when its founder Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre consecrated four bishops, including Bishop Williamson, against the orders of Pope John Paul II. The ordinations resulted in the excommunication of all five bishops. Archbishop Lefebvre founded the society in 1970 as a response to what he saw as errors in the Church after the Second Vatican Council.

The society only celebrates the Tridentine Latin Mass.

Pope Benedict XVI has endeavored to reconcile the society with the Church. He lifted the excommunications of the society’s four living bishops in 2009. However, that act caused significant controversy because, unbeknownst to the Pope, Bishop Williamson had made statements that diminished the magnitude of the Holocaust.

The bishop told Swedish public television that only as many as 300,000 Jews died in the Holocaust, when the accepted figure is about six million.

Bishop Williamson caused internal strife in August when he made an unauthorized visit to a Brazilian breakaway Benedictine monastery and celebrated the sacrament of Confirmation there for nearly 100 lay Catholics.

A Society of St. Pius X district superior protested that the visit was an act of disobedience that disrespected the society’s procedures.

The society’s ongoing talks with the Vatican on possible reunification are also a source of internal controversy.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Worship
KEYWORDS: benedictxvi; catholic; fellay; pope; sspx; tlm; traditionalmass; tridentinemass; vatican; williamson

1 posted on 10/24/2012 3:22:36 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/24/2012 3:23:37 PM PDT by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer

hmmm...guys in silk robes excommunicating other guys in silk robes doesn’t do much for me...


3 posted on 10/24/2012 3:28:44 PM PDT by ghost of nixon
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To: NYer
Just wait. He'll start another heretical group, and I'm afraid there will be people silly enough to join him.
4 posted on 10/24/2012 3:36:44 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: NYer

The society had no choice I do miss the Tridentine mass being brought up with it. I try and get into the new form but my attendance to and participation in it is my weekly pennance .


5 posted on 10/24/2012 4:01:53 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (The best way to punish a - country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great para/p)
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To: NYer
And therein lies the flaw with any breakaway group in the Catholic Church, even those who seem to have perfectly legitimate reasons for their resistance. Once you give yourself the right and authority to break away from Rome, you have no credibility when your own followers begin to question your legitimacy.
6 posted on 10/24/2012 4:27:08 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: mosesdapoet
but my attendance to and participation in it is my weekly pennance

I refuse to participate in any form of worship that drives me apart from the Lord and my faith. The possibility of endangering one's faith is a perfectly legitimate reason to avoid the nouveau protestantized form.

7 posted on 10/24/2012 4:33:06 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: NYer

Huge, huge news.

This removes one of the last obstacles to a reconciliation between the society and Rome.

Benedict’s dream and life’s purpose is to fuse the best elements of the Tridentine and Novus Ordovician masses, thus bringing to fruition the true plan—God’s plan—for Vatican II.


8 posted on 10/24/2012 4:38:25 PM PDT by vonkayel
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To: vonkayel

Waiting on the edge of my chair to hear what “the best elements” of the NO form are.


9 posted on 10/24/2012 4:41:49 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: vonkayel

The Bible I read doesn’t mention the Vatican at all.


10 posted on 10/24/2012 4:57:50 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: steve86

The S-S-P-X (The Y-M-C-A)

Young priest, there’s no need to feel down.
I said, young priest, when the rites are unsound.
Young priest, find a chapel in town
There’s no need to be schis-ma-tic.

Young priest, there’s a place you can go.
I said, young priest, when you’re tired of the N.O.
They are straight there, and I’m sure you will find
The confessional has a long line.

Avoid the gay at the s-s-p-x.
Avoid the gay at the s-s-p-x.


11 posted on 10/24/2012 5:05:51 PM PDT by polkajello (Romney: The Lesser of Two Weasels)
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To: NYer

Pius X, Malcolm X, I’m so confused!


12 posted on 10/24/2012 5:09:30 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: NYer

bumpus ad summum


13 posted on 10/24/2012 7:15:46 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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To: Lurker

You know what else you won’t find in your Bible? “Bible”. It’s not in there. You won’t find “Trinity” either. You also won’t find a list of inspired books. You also won’t find anything in the Gospel of Matthew that tells you Matthew wrote a gospel. In other words, not every truth is in the Bible.


15 posted on 10/24/2012 9:00:50 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vonkayel
Benedict’s dream and life’s purpose is to fuse the best elements of the Tridentine and Novus Ordovician masses, thus bringing to fruition the true plan—God’s plan—for Vatican II.

I don't think you're 100% correct about that. What's happening here is that the Catholic Church is making very slow, but unmistakeable, moves to reinstitute the Tridentine Mass. As time goes on -- and this may take decades, not months or years -- there are going to be more and more gradual changes in the Novus Ordo ... until eventually there will be almost no difference between the two.

The most obvious "restoration" move will take place when you walk into your local parish church and see the priest saying Mass with his back to the congregation.

16 posted on 10/25/2012 3:53:57 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Alberta’s Child,

You may be right. Time will tell.

I don’t think we’re ever going to go all the way back to the Tridentine in its unadulterated form. Mass will likely be celebrated in the vernacular, for instance.

But structurally and liturgically, we are certainly re-incorporating the lost elements of the old form. I do believe that the priest will eventually turn back to face the altar and tabernacle.

The big question is whether the concept of Mass as the “supper of the lamb” as opposed to a sacrifice will remain. Personally, I hope that it does.


17 posted on 10/25/2012 6:19:57 AM PDT by vonkayel
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To: Alberta's Child

Excellent point!


18 posted on 10/25/2012 8:43:17 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: vonkayel

If the use of the vernacular is likely to remain in the Mass, then why is it that one of the first (and most obvious) things included in the recent changes in the Mass has been the re-introduction of Latin for some of the prayers?


19 posted on 10/25/2012 3:56:11 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Again, it is part of Benedict’s plan to fuse the traditional with the post-conciliar. There will be more Latin, just as there will be more reverence. But there will not, IMO, be a full return to the Tridentine.

There have been some excellent articles about this recently. Wish I could remember the authors/pubs, but you may already be familiar with them.


20 posted on 10/25/2012 5:14:41 PM PDT by vonkayel
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